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Don’t forget Broadway Joe’s Super Bowl boast.
Considering the whole debate over the virtue of stocism goes back to at least Roman times I don't see how TikTok is at fault.
Don’t forget Broadway Joe’s Super Bowl boast.
Are you all THAT emotionally touched to miss the whole point?
Do u take it as an offense to the USA?? This is trully fascinating
(none of ur past "examples" are relevant to the point/subject)
What is the whole point? I'm not emotional impacted by any of it... but it seems like "Wemby's comments okay because he can back it up (by losing) but Steph giving night-night gesture bad because he can't back it (by single-handedly icing the game for the US)"Are you all THAT emotionally touched to miss the whole point?
Do u take it as an offense to the USA?? This is trully fascinating
(none of ur past "examples" are relevant to the point/subject)
Nah come on mate, you're trying to act as if MJ's shrug (that he only did once and wasn't even targetting his opponents) is the same thing than Curry telling his opponents to go to sleep all the time
I know the way you think globally, have read u on many topics, you're not idiots, so the only rational explanation is that you guys got offended as if we were targetting your culture or country, no idea tbh ^^
He didn't say anything extraordinary about this generation's obsession with clickbait and trying to be in the news/social medias with special hand shakes, dances etc
Water is still wet.
If Jordan's shrug was the only thing he'd ever done, that would be one thing... but IIRC he was a fairly notorious talker. What about Reggie Miller? None of this is new, is the point.Nah come on mate, you're trying to act as if MJ's shrug (that he only did once and wasn't even targetting his opponents) is the same thing than Curry telling his opponents to go to sleep all the time
I know the way you think globally, have read u on many topics, you're not idiots, so the only rational explanation is that you guys got offended as if we were targetting your culture or country, no idea tbh ^^
He didn't say anything extraordinary about this generation's obsession with clickbait and trying to be in the news/social medias with special hand shakes, dances etc
Water is still wet.
Steph quite literally put France to sleep in that game... no qualms about his gestures at all. Without Steph, Wemby has a real chance to lead France to that upset... it was just an unreal performance by Curry.
I just think it's silly to get upset at Steph but then be all about Wemby's "I fear for everyone else" comments. Here's a take: I love them both!
Social media/the Internet has definitely affected most aspects of life, so yeah, sports celebrations could be a part of that change, too.
I still don't get the comp with MJ, he never had his traditional dance or trash talked when unprovoked... He trashed ppl who talked to him!
How is it comparable with doing the shimmy or the "night night" gesture WHEN UNPROVOKED??
I'd say the same thing if it was Germany or any other nation, it was a beautifull game, US end up barely beating a team they were supposed to beat by +16pts vs euro or soon to be retired players and a 20yo rookie AND they though "yeah let's make fun of them!!"
Anyways, no big deal, we can just agree to disagree, but as I said before it's just tough for me to understand what u don't get considering you are Spurs fans and that it's litterally part of the Spurs iden y to not have those type of clownish behaviours.
I'll just say that I didn't view the shimmy or "night night" as a making fun of France at all. I just saw it as expressing him showing his emotion in a huge game (after all, it was the Gold medal match). I think stuff like Shaq filthy dunk over Chris Dudley (and the aftermath) was far more disrespectful. Honestly, I think some of Sochan's shenanigans (which largely get celebrated on this site) are more disrespectful. But at the end of the day, these are all adult men - they can handle it.I still don't get the comp with MJ, he never had his traditional dance or trash talked when unprovoked... He trashed ppl who talked to him!
How is it comparable with doing the shimmy or the "night night" gesture WHEN UNPROVOKED??
I'd say the same thing if it was Germany or any other nation, it was a beautifull game, US end up barely beating a team they were supposed to beat by +16pts vs euro or soon to be retired players and a 20yo rookie AND they though "yeah let's make fun of them!!"
Anyways, no big deal, we can just agree to disagree, but as I said before it's just tough for me to understand what u don't get considering you are Spurs fans and that it's litterally part of the Spurs iden y to not have those type of clownish behaviours.
I tend to think it's not done in an "evil" way, he, like a lot of them, just don't realise how unflaterring it is. I'm not even sure it's typcally a US thing, it's a generational thing and today's culture is worldwide, more and more similar.
I agree on Sochan, I don't like it bc it's 100% entertainment, he's not a "bad guy" , who grew up in the streets and had to build this type of behaviour. He just thinks it looks cool and probably has the memory of a few players being impacted. I hope he quits this BS
I also agree on Shaq, who imo might have been one of the 1st to understand the impact of highlights and the entertainment factor in the NBA. All his antics eneded up costing him a lot tho, he kinda trapped himself in the cartoon role.
Look, it could very well be me becoming an old grumpy dude (I'm 46), but I'm from an era where stoicism looked cool in sports. All the champions I admire are stoic and class in win and losses, the only excrptions being fighters, but it's not realy a "sport" to me.
And please go bck and watch some MJ film buddy, you can't be serious wit this comp
since Wemby is our resident alien, so...........
I've never been fan of any player self glorifying, and acting like you're the ultimate or did anything else than putting a ball in a circle never did it to me. Me likes some class., specially in a hostile environment. Curry's flurry was great, no need to waste it with some antics or "who's your daddy know" stuff. We know it's great, just let it speak for itself and win the playfully hostile crowd respect, specially that it's the Olympics... I like when it's ultimately all about the sport and great moments and I can appreciate an opponent talent when I see it.
As for Wemby, I'll put that on his sitll young age and how young people today likes to feature their life with wannabee tough, inspirational or "profound" quotes, but wemby's quote looks like some wannabee tough stuff you say as a teen or in bad western (or a young Clint Eastwood movie)... Confidence is one thing, but arrogance is another one, specially that's it's a team game and it makes it look that it's all about yourself...
Vic had a great year but so far bu he won crap and spurs are tanking next year too... So Keep working and stay humble, things are not always going the way you want or imagined in sports, not mention injuries. it's not a movie or social media where you can write and fantazise your life.
Last edited by JPB; 08-16-2024 at 03:39 AM.
And that's off topic since Jordan was never really showboating or trolling the crowd, letting his game speak for itself; but for the record he was always known as a complete ass on the court, provoking and trash talking opponents to motivate himself and destabilize them, mostly as the initiator (I mean who could afford to troll him in his prime?).
He was as much a bully on than off the court.
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That is why we love Manu >> he is the epitome of class......Wemby should spend time with Manu and Timmy more
Avatars of Class that i can remember right now :
Manu
Timmy
Bill Russell
Arvydas Sabonis
Ramon Fernandez
Samboy Lim
David Robinson
I miss Manu............
Acting like MJ didn’t call mugsy bogues a MFing midget
Manu killed an innocent animal
Tim laughed at a referee
and David did not sign an autograph to young shaq
Shaq admitted it was a BS story btw. It's so messed up to let a story like that fly for decades
Manu killed an innocent animal
Tim laughed at a referee
and David did not sign an autograph to young shaq
what an asshole tbh...Shaq admitted it was a BS story btw. It's so messed up to let a story like that fly for decades
Yes, the timeline was wrong. When David hegan his rookie season, Shaq was already at LSU.Shaq admitted it was a BS story btw. It's so messed up to let a story like that fly for decades
Talking has been a part of basketball my entire life.
Put on your big girl panties
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