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    Because PATFO are naive enough to keep an injured player if that's the verbal agreement?



    It obviously allows him to keep his options open, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he'll surely leave before the deadline.
    As I said, there aren't many top contenders that would be interested and if Spurs are close to .500 in February, there's no point in leaving for another first round exit team.

    I'd say that him staying with the Spurs for two seasons is as likely as him leaving before deadline.
    Starter this season, backup the next and then joins the coaching staff if he's interested.

    He seems like someone too invested in basketball to not become a coach. Spurs are his by far the best option if he wants to take that route.
    We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. I see things that point to <= to one year, and nothing pointing to multiple seasons.

    While the Spurs may be his best route to coaching, I’m not sure he’s theirs. Having worn out his welcome everywhere as a player, he may be like AJ, who had the knowledge to coach, but always lost the locker room with his disposition.

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    Oh, I’m 100% sure he’s going to start, and I’m 95% sure he’s going to be gone by the end of February. He’ll have fun here, but he’s ring chasing, and he won’t get it here on his timeframe.
    So you expect us to tank again?

    Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

    I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.

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    So you expect us to tank again?

    Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

    I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.
    +20 wins would be a huge leap, and would have left us 4 games short of even the play in last year. It’s not playoffs or tank. I think they’re ready to make that Houston leap from last year this year.

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    We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. I see things that point to <= to one year, and nothing pointing to multiple seasons.
    Is it known who has the option to keep or trade at midseason? Or another of Pop Pets buyout?
    Please tell me Grandpa dipstick did not give CP0 a no trade option.

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    keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

    washed up is not among those things

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    Is it known who has the option to keep or trade at midseason? Or another of Pop Pets buyout?
    Please tell me Grandpa dipstick did not give CP0 a no trade option.
    A one year contract is a mini no trade clause. The player has the right to approve or veto any trade. The Spurs may not have given it to him, it may have been a condition for him to sign.

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    keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

    washed up is not among those things
    I’m looking for him to return to his higher shooting numbers from earlier in his career when he didn’t have to get his own shots. I posted that SGA shot 42% from three In his one year with CP, and never came close to that number before or since, not even with Chip coaching him.

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    Chris Paul is literally my least favorite player in the NBA, but I'm completely reconciled to the idea of him being a mentor for most of a season before he's shipped out to a contender for assets. The PG of the future isn't here yet, and he'll be a good place holder who can benefit the young guys. Sometimes you have to make alliances in the pragmatic world that aren't aesthetically pleasing... so, in other words, CP0 is kinda like Stalin.

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    A one year contract is a mini no trade clause. The player has the right to approve or veto any trade.
    Huh? Is this all NBA teams and players?
    Regardless of what Pop and Pet Paul agreed to.

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    The PG of the future isn't here yet
    I can't wait for Castle to prove all the doubters wrong.

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    Huh? Is this all NBA teams and players?
    Regardless of what Pop and Pet Paul agreed to.
    It’s in the CBA.

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    For me, there are two possibilities (and one and the other are not necessarily incompatible, at least in CP's mind).

    Either, Paul makes a bet that SA can be a serious contender within two years, and it will then inevitably be one. Either, by dint of traveling in search of a ring, he has definitively given up on winning a le and wants to return to being the fan he was when he was 15 years old. We saw last year that he practically behaved like a fan with Wemby. This was not the behavior of a compe or. It's more a sign for me that he has come to terms with the idea that he won't have a le, and as long as he misses the ring, he wants to get closer to the one he thinks represents the future of his sport. He wouldn't have a ring then, but he would one day have the satisfaction of saying that he was at the moment when it all began, and that at his level he participated in a new dynasty. (And who knows, if he has any desire to become a coach, we know that a place will become available in the medium term.)

    It would be a form of renunciation. Personally, I admire people who have a dream and who know how to face their (relative) failures by setting new goals to achieve. I find it less pathetic than going around the league looking like you'd be ready to adjust your skirt and go out at night to lug your pain and broken dreams onto a gloomy sidewalk singing at 40 “I'm still beautiful, one day, I will be a movie star”.

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    keldon johnson is many things. reasons to be skeptical of his long term fit, whether he can find room to succeed as a starter, etc

    washed up is not among those things
    he is playing like one tho

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    +20 wins would be a huge leap, and would have left us 4 games short of even the play in last year. It’s not playoffs or tank. I think they’re ready to make that Houston leap from last year this year.
    If you take away the 1st absurd month, the games almost purposely lost with BS rotations and passive coaching or Wemby's limited minutes, it's really about a dozen games at most (less imo) in terms of true level.

    Then you add a real PG and 2 valuable vets, THE 2 main weaknesses of the previous roster and it's not unrealistic to reach the PO imo, espacially if post ASG teams start soft tanking for THE draft

    Having a PO exp before being a real contender would be very valuable. Wemby (and the others I'm sure) want(s) to taste it

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    I can't wait for Castle to prove all the doubters wrong.

    I like Castle's potential, but I don't think he'll be the starting PG of the Spurs in 2027.

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    I like Castle's potential, but I don't think he'll be the starting PG of the Spurs in 2027.
    I think he will, but we all have our imperfect opinions. Mine included.

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    So you expect us to tank again?

    Because if we're not, we'll be in PO position by then, why leave then? Just to potentially play against us in the POs?

    I think CP is here to play 1st (highly important imo), ride Wemby's coattail and prepare his post career with a coach he admires and wants to learn from.
    When Pop finally retires the Spurs will have their pick of coaches. The Spurs will be the #1 choice of every available coach. The chance to coach Wemby in his prime will be too much to pass up. I’m hoping Hurley throws his name in the hat. Paul as an assistant coach, sure. But not as head coach.

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    I don't believe this team is even close to make the POs next year, and it's not a 38, washed up Paul or rookie Castle who are gonna change anything to that. And it's not just about us, but also the concurrence.

    Vegas have them around 35 wins, and I'd tempted to go for the under if you consider they're certainly gonna join the tank fiesta after the ASG.

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    It’s in the CBA.
    Didn't even know Paul played in Canada :/

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    HA HA HA!!!
    WHAT!?

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    Has Clifford Paul got a secret side we don't know about?

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    Pretty sure 69 is a banned number. Exactly for the reasons you'd think.

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    Pretty sure 69 is a banned number. Exactly for the reasons you'd think.
    Rodman asked for it when he went to Chicago. Stern told him no ing way.

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