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    Apocryphal quote:

    "Victor, let's be serious, isn't it better for you to be the screener in a pick and roll?"

    “Man, I only play rock and roll.”

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    Looks like a nice vacay for Wemby.

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    Looks really nice. Where is that at? I think it's good to take it easy for a little bit after the season and Olympics. I was sort of hoping that he was resting/relaxing a bit. I used to love Kawhi working out all the time until seeing his body break/start breaking down, and then when that happened to Kawhi, I started looking further back to Kobe and figure he also broke down earlier than he should have due to probably working like a madman all the time. I used to think you have to go hard all the time if you want to be the best, but now, I think you have to balance it out as much as you can.

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    Looks really nice. Where is that at? I think it's good to take it easy for a little bit after the season and Olympics. I was sort of hoping that he was resting/relaxing a bit. I used to love Kawhi working out all the time until seeing his body break/start breaking down, and then when that happened to Kawhi, I started looking further back to Kobe and figure he also broke down earlier than he should have due to probably working like a madman all the time. I used to think you have to go hard all the time if you want to be the best, but now, I think you have to balance it out as much as you can.
    Michael Jordan's trainer Tim Grover who also trained Kobe Bryant had an interesting anecdote about the way Kobe trained. Grover said the difference between MJ and Kobe was that MJ would rest whenever Grover would tell him to rest so his body could regenerate from the intense training. Whenever Grover told Kobe to rest he wouldn't do it and would overtrain which would result in injuries.

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    Michael Jordan's trainer Tim Grover who also trained Kobe Bryant had an interesting anecdote about the way Kobe trained. Grover said the difference between MJ and Kobe was that MJ would rest whenever Grover would tell him to rest so his body could regenerate from the intense training. Whenever Grover told Kobe to rest he wouldn't do it and would overtrain which would result in injuries.
    Right. Very cool info that I didn't know. That is very interesting that Jordan followed his advice and Kobe didn't. Having said that, not sure if Jordan held up much better than Kobe while taking Tim Grover's advice on when to rest. I am pretty sure Kobe was the type of guy to push himself to the point of blacking out, then when he got to that point, push further. Even though I wasn't a fan due to being a Spurs fan and him being a rival, I always knew he was training his ass off. I guess that's why he was so mad with Shaq at the start of the 2003 season where Shaq took the whole off-season off and got surgery on his toe shortly before the season to rehab during the season (I think it was the 2003 season), and that really pissed Kobe off as he was probably training most days during the offseason while Shaq was taking it easy.

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    Right. Very cool info that I didn't know. That is very interesting that Jordan followed his advice and Kobe didn't. Having said that, not sure if Jordan held up much better than Kobe while taking Tim Grover's advice on when to rest. I am pretty sure Kobe was the type of guy to push himself to the point of blacking out, then when he got to that point, push further. Even though I wasn't a fan due to being a Spurs fan and him being a rival, I always knew he was training his ass off. I guess that's why he was so mad with Shaq at the start of the 2003 season where Shaq took the whole off-season off and got surgery on his toe shortly before the season to rehab during the season (I think it was the 2003 season), and that really pissed Kobe off as he was probably training most days during the offseason while Shaq was taking it easy.
    Kobe was injured whenever he has a bad game. And more injured when he has a bad series. He would miraculously heal the next time he has a good game though.

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    As much as I hated Kobe damnit I had to admire his lethality and work ethic. Just too cool.

    But one of my pet peeves was that built in injury excuse and every time he'd start getting close to one of those 7-24 nights something would "flare up" and it became the "heroics" of what he accomplished despite playing in pain.

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    As much as I hated Kobe damnit I had to admire his lethality and work ethic. Just too cool.

    But one of my pet peeves was that built in injury excuse and every time he'd start getting close to one of those 7-24 nights something would "flare up" and it became the "heroics" of what he accomplished despite playing in pain.
    Yeah, I do remember what you and Ambchang are saying. I used to hate that too, but I still do believe that he did overwork and got injuries because of it. He very well may have played up injuries when he was having a bad game or bad shooting night, though, but that doesn't take away from how hard he worked. One other reason I know/believe he pushed himself to the limit and beyond is the way he was after he retired. It seemed like he was calm and relaxed and had no regrets when he retired. That made me think he laid it all out there and didn't leave anything on the table.

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    Yeah agreed. I don't doubt it was from over training / inadequate recovery time. He was always staying after games and shooting till midnight 1 am during playoff series. Kobe was mental.

    And with Kobe's playoff frequency the wear and tear starts to add up.

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    I always had the impression Kobe had no internal life, he was hollow, and competed to fill up the void. He changed a bit after he retired. Jordan was just as hollow but made up for it with his gambling addictions.

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    I always had the impression Kobe had no internal life, he was hollow, and competed to fill up the void. He changed a bit after he retired. Jordan was just as hollow but made up for it with his gambling addictions.
    It’s very hard to have both wouldn’t you agree?

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    It's okay if you don't understand the collectables market, you can just say that.

    This card will go for more than $1MM. That's just the bounty that one particular party had placed on it. When it goes to auction, it will clear that bar.
    It depends on his career. Right now the price is on expectations. Some can bank on it but you never know if in 20 years this card will equal the value of 1Mil now.

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    It depends on his career. Right now the price is on expectations. Some can bank on it but you never know if in 20 years this card will equal the value of 1Mil now.
    No one can predict anything about cards in 20 years. But it will be worth over $1MM today.

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    No one can predict anything about cards in 20 years. But it will be worth over $1MM today.
    Yea I was trying to be in that lottery but for the cards I have I can get few K's

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    he needs that post game tbh


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    he needs that post game tbh

    No, he just needs to stop shooting middies, which he kind of did after the ASG.

    Purtting Victor in the post would be like making Ant a catch and shoot player.

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    No, he just needs to stop shooting middies, which he kind of did after the ASG.

    Purtting Victor in the post would be like making Ant a catch and shoot player.
    i didnt say he should exclusively play in the post. i said he needs a post game. Dirk had an excellent post game even though he was a phenomenal outside shooter

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    i didnt say he should exclusively play in the post. i said he needs a post game. Dirk had an excellent post game even though he was a phenomenal outside shooter
    The thing is,posting up would probably be lower efficiency than his one dribble two stride dunks from the three point line. Dunks are like 95% effective, far more than a turnaround jumper or a hook shot. He just needs space to operate. Dirk did what he did because he was less physically gifted than Wemby. He didn’t have the two stride dunk from the three point line in his bag. There’s no reason for Wemby to limit himself to stuff that less physically gifted players did 25 years ago.

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    The thing is,posting up would probably be lower efficiency than his one dribble two stride dunks from the three point line. Dunks are like 95% effective, far more than a turnaround jumper or a hook shot. He just needs space to operate. Dirk did what he did because he was less physically gifted than Wemby. He didn’t have the two stride dunk from the three point line in his bag. There’s no reason for Wemby to limit himself to stuff that less physically gifted players did 25 years ago.
    i agree that if wemby can do a one dribble dunk on every possession that he should just do that

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    i agree that if wemby can do a one dribble dunk on every possession that he should just do that
    He should do it as often as possible. He’s most dangerous when he’s outside the three point line, facing up. Pick and rolls and inverted pick and rolls with him as the ball handler are also good.

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    The wemby sushi roll is also amazing. Have u tried wemby tp roll at walmart, super soft. Dunkin had the wemby jelly roll, it was less successful

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    He should do it as often as possible. He’s most dangerous when he’s outside the three point line, facing up. Pick and rolls and inverted pick and rolls with him as the ball handler are also good.
    he will inevitably have possessions where he touches the ball around 10-15 feet away from the rim, and i for one think it will be good if he finds effective ways to score from such positions

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    he will inevitably have possessions where he touches the ball around 10-15 feet away from the rim, and i for one think it will be good if he finds effective ways to score from such positions
    See the spin play against Aaron Gordon in that 17 point barrage in 3 minutes, or any of his Shamgods.

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    See the spin play against Aaron Gordon in that 17 point barrage in 3 minutes, or any of his Shamgods.
    highlights are awesome. but you can track his season long efficiency and it aint it

    he was subpar at every shot distance outside of 3 feet

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    highlights are awesome. but you can track his season long efficiency and it aint it

    he was subpar at every shot distance outside of 3 feet
    Those plays I mentioned weren’t shots, and in fact, I don’t wanting him shooting middies, and mentioned it earlier in the thread.

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