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OKC might be a really good team, and they've had some really good teams. They're not champions yet, though. I see the idea of basing our model heavily on Presti's as one to be taken with a grain of salt.
Drafting narrative changes pretty fast. OKC and ORL were awful for almost a decade and today they are the success stories of building your core organically. It is still a small sample at a time where the franchise need to take swings in the draft. Now they drafting with a north star it is a different stage on their life cycle.
OKC might be a really good team, and they've had some really good teams. They're not champions yet, though. I see the idea of basing our model heavily on Presti's as one to be taken with a grain of salt.
It’s not so much Presti as every small or unattractive team/market. You can’t trade your way to more than 1-2 les, and maybe a 5-6 year run, and then you’re out of resources to rebuild/retool. Those swaps and picks from 28 forward could put us in a position to do another 15-20 year run.
they might even lead to the #8 pick in the draft. Just think of the possibilities
Warriors are probably a better example, at least somewhat. One of the worst franchises in the NBA for years, then drafted Curry, Thompson, got a steal in Draymond. Pulled great role-players, made really solid decisions.
OKC is close. They're on the cusp as teams are getting older. I feel like they're missing a key piece, but they have the framework.
I think they got the key pieces they needed in Hartenstein and Caruso, but their window is only open for the duration of those contracts, and with Jalen Williams and Chet both coming up for extensions next summer, they won’t be able to keep either of their 2024 key piece acquisitions.
I really want to find a way to steal Cason Wallace from them, or force them into the second apron to keep him.
OKC bout to win 60 games, they’re ready to reel off a couple championships with the roster they have now assuming they’re healthy when it matters.
I’d be good with Wallace. Just afraid with Giddy gone his minutes will increase bunches
They'll definitely be up there. It's common to bomb the first time in the playoffs, which they did -- they beat a very bad and injured NOP team and got slaughtered by Dallas.
Their biggest problem was inside and Hartenstein may be the trick there. Caruso will provide great outside toughness. I think they need another scorer who can help SGA out. Their best advantage is there aren't any set top opponents in the West.
You don't think one or both of JDub/Chet will get there?
^ I don’t recall them being “slaughtered” by Dallas at all. It was a really close series, and that Game 6 came down to the wire.
https://www.nba.com/playoffs/2024/west-semifinal-1
I like both those players, but it feels like JDub is the piece they ultimately flip (along with picks) to land their finishing piece. Like if Jaylen Brown gets grumpy or the Cs are faced with cutting costs, etc.
I'm surprised to hear "slaughtered" being thrown around with regards to that Dal/OKC series as well lol. OKC played them close and a bad Shai foul on PJ plus another shot or 2 and that series could've went the other way.
I might be higher than most on JDub but I think he still has another big step to take. He is already efficient as and now with Giddey out of the way he can have the reins to the offense even more. Part of the reason why i'm intrigued by Cody Williams is cuz the "little brother" theory rarely fails lol.
The series really wasn't very close.
Thinking that OKC got "slaughtered" by Dallas is pretty hilarious.
Statistically, the Dallas/OKC series was about as close as you can get without going seven games. They were tied 2-2 after four games, and Dallas won game 6 by one point. If you look at the advanced stats, there's a really rare statistical anomaly: both teams finished the series with an identical Offensive Rating and Defensive Rating of 112.3 ORtg/112.3 DRtg, and both teams averaged an identical 106 ppg.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...s-thunder.html
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Not that anyone needed more evidence that Mr. Body neither watches or understands basketball, but here's more of it, just for giggles.
the spurs were #1 in their division when i said they'd have the worst future in the division. they proceeded to be among the bottom in the conference / league for years. period. i was right.
the spurs lucked out in landing wemby. if the spurs got the #2 pick in the draft then they'd still be mired.
Th Celtics have the worst future in the league. This will come true thr day the Celtics have the worst record sometime in the future.
Exactly. Teams go through up and down cycles. No matter which way you call it,if you wait long enough, it will eventually come to pass. Doesn’t make you ing Nostradamus.
Why would it matter where the Spurs were in the standings when you're making a prediction of their future? And what do those years matter when the rest of the conference had nothing but mediocre seasons altogether, sans last-season Mavs?
The Spurs "lucked out" but also tanked timely and purposely to nab Wemby, showing a level of strategy and forward thinking that dumbbells like you would've never given them credit for. Any way you slice it, you weren't right, and as we have extensively debated; "the future is now, old man".
again, the spurs were #1 in their division when i said it was fool's gold. and 95% of ST thought the spurs were on the right track, very content with the team's direction. then they proceeded to fall off a cliff. just like i predicted.
stop acting like i said the spurs "have the worst future in the division forever"
you proved my point.
spurs were #1 in their division (when i said they'd have the worst future in their division) ---> to tanking. you can't tank without being awful--which the spurs became after i said they would.
no one on ST wanted to tank when i posted that thread
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