View Poll Results: Most improved Spur from Earth

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  • KJ

    5 7.14%
  • Devin

    15 21.43%
  • Sochan

    39 55.71%
  • Malaki

    2 2.86%
  • Blake

    3 4.29%
  • Collins

    2 2.86%
  • Champaignie

    4 5.71%
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    One better player after Sochan, JWill.
    Only 1 "name", I agree.

    But surely many more that didn't have the luxury of being offered so much PT not based on merit.

    Good for him, but others could've had that chance

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    Only 1 "name", I agree.

    But surely many more that didn't have the luxury of being offered so much PT not based on merit.

    Good for him, but others could've had that chance
    Yes, I’m sure those players were higher quality, but just held back because no one wanted to give them a chance \sarcasm

    That’s not how the draft works. Everyone watches the same film, and everyone has a representative at the combine, and gets sent all of the measurements. Every mock had Sochan top 10, and some that I follow, like DoD had him top 5. From a prospect viewpoint, it wasn’t a miss. It remains to be seen what his development curve tops out at. He was a swing to get a franchise player before we had Wemby. We no longer need that, but if he could become a #2 or #3 guy, that would be ideal.

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    An interesting sleeper call buttsR4, was thinking about lesser roles that might flourish a bit recently too. Obvs not expecting much, not expecting anything realistically.

    But there's got to be one of Wesley, Branham, Champagnie, Mamu, Zollins, Bassey that get some semblance of a foothold at least. Plus not sure how you classify Jones for this discussion age wise (and Zollins, Mamu, Jones, Bassey perhaps are too old?) but as someone who steadily improved last 2 seasons I could see Tre Jones' cup finally overflow. I could see Jones, Zollins, Branham and Champ looking sharp this season in limited secondary support roles. Not sure what to expect with Bassey, feels like a hypothetical concept at this point. Love Mamu and thought he fit well next to Wemby and made the team gel while on court but hope to see improved defense.

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    Yes, I’m sure those players were higher quality, but just held back because no one wanted to give them a chance \sarcasm

    That’s not how the draft works. Everyone watches the same film, and everyone has a representative at the combine, and gets sent all of the measurements. Every mock had Sochan top 10, and some that I follow, like DoD had him top 5. From a prospect viewpoint, it wasn’t a miss. It remains to be seen what his development curve tops out at. He was a swing to get a franchise player before we had Wemby. We no longer need that, but if he could become a #2 or #3 guy, that would be ideal.
    Yeah bc everyone is always right / sarcasm

    My point was mostly that usually MERIT is an essential reason for PT, there are (anthopological) reasons for that.

    Sochan needs to win his spot to get better (in soooo many areas, technical as much as mental or IQ) but never had to fight for it. He's had it way too easy

    I hope PATFO challenge him this season and don't put him as a starter, he needs it.

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    I just wonder what the future rotation looks like if both Wesley and Branham surprise and turn into competent NBA players capable of playing on a playoff contender. What does this hypothetical look like?

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    I just wonder what the future rotation looks like if both Wesley and Branham surprise and turn into competent NBA players capable of playing on a playoff contender. What does this hypothetical look like?
    First off, players guaranteed to play relevant minutes:

    PG: CP3/Tre
    SG: Devin
    SF: Jeremy/Keldon
    PF: Barnes
    C: Wemby/Collins

    I left Castle out because he'll surely get minutes, but we don't know what's his role going to be.
    Eight guaranteed rotation members and Castle.
    Then it's going to be between Branham, Champagnie and Mamu.
    If Branham does well, then Castle probably moves down to SF and Jeremy/Keldon spend minutes at PF.
    If Mamu continues where he left off last season, then Castle stays at SG and Jeremy Keldon at SF.
    I can't see Wesley playing if noone is sitting out. He'll probably get some minutes while Devin is out and then wait for those games when CP3 rests.

    Everyone will get a chance, then it's up to them to stay in the rotation.
    The most interesting thing for me will be the point guard dynamic.
    Is CP3 actually committed to this project or will he look to go to a contender at the deadline? If he stays for the entire season, then he'll probably get one more year.
    If that happens, Tre probably gets traded because we can surely get some SRPs for him. No point in keepking him after the deadline if he doesn't get an extension.
    Will Castle be an actual point guard? If he impresses, that just accelerates the departure of CP3/Tre. If that's his role, then he probably gets the starting spot next year and one of CP3/Tre would be his backup. But it's too early to tell right now.

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    i expect Wesley to get his chances when CP3 inevitably misses some games. Just enough to give him an opportunity to earn more, if warranted.

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    Castle, Wesley, Branham and Champ are in a dogfight for the true 9th man spot. Mamu/Bassey will get 10-12 mins a game combined regardless given our ridiculous lack of depth at the 4/5.

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    Castle, Wesley, Branham and Champ are in a dogfight for the true 9th man spot. Mamu/Bassey will get 10-12 mins a game combined regardless given our ridiculous lack of depth at the 4/5.
    If that’s the compe ion, it’ll go to Castle. I think that with the acquisition of CP3, Tre will sit like Devonte did last year, so those backup minutes will be available for Castle and Wesley.

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    If that’s the compe ion, it’ll go to Castle. I think that with the acquisition of CP3, Tre will sit like Devonte did last year, so those backup minutes will be available for Castle and Wesley.
    I know SA has a lot of PGs but I feel like Tre Jones will play more consistently than Graham did last year.

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    I know SA has a lot of PGs but I feel like Tre Jones will play more consistently than Graham did last year.
    Graham was better than a lot of our guards last year, and sat anyway.

    CP will probably play ~30 minutes. That only leaves 18 PG minutes for Castle, and only if Tre primarily sits like Devonte did.

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    Graham was better than a lot of our guards last year, and sat anyway.

    CP will probably play ~30 minutes. That only leaves 18 PG minutes for Castle, and only if Tre primarily sits like Devonte did.
    I think that is the biggest question mark going into this season - where Castle gets minutes. I see him learning PG role behind the scenes and predominately backing up Vassell while sharing some PG duties. Tre Jones is too good of a backup and knows the system. If Castle excels I could see Jones being moved at the deadline.

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