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    Andrew Dufresmed Millennial_Messiah's Avatar
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    Every 4 years each of the two parties goes back and forth on which side gets to call the coin. Coin is tossed fairly by a non-partisan individual. Winner of coin toss is awarded 4 year term. That way we can do away with wasting money and time on campaigning, voting, and political warfare. That would also de-polarize the country a lot because less people would complain and say the other side cheated and used dirty money etc if it's a fair, 50-50 coin toss.

    Thoughts?

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    Or just have the election outcome based on the popular vote like every other normal election in the history of ever

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    The only reason it's a cointoss (to you) is the EC. More, usually significantly more, are voting Democrat in all but one election since 2000.

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    The only reason it's a cointoss (to you) is the EC. More, usually significantly more, are voting Democrat in all but one election since 2000.
    you could dial it back to "since 1988" and still be right

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Or just have the election outcome based on the popular vote like every other normal election in the history of ever
    Electoral college should have been wiped away once slavery was since that was the whole point of it in the first place, eg for slaveowners to get representation for their slaves without giving them the right to vote. Would be nice to cast a vote that actually mattered every four years.

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    my unders, my frgn whites pgardn's Avatar
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    Or just have the election outcome based on the popular vote like every other normal election in the history of ever
    Because the Republicans will lose is what M and M really wants to say and knows.

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    Or just have the election outcome based on the popular vote like every other normal election in the history of ever
    i'll be sure to bookmark this post in case Trump wins the national popular vote but loses by way of losing PA/MI/WI by like a thousand votes.

    it's not a scenario that's too far fetched this year around imo

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    Electoral college should have been wiped away once slavery was since that was the whole point of it in the first place, eg for slaveowners to get representation for their slaves without giving them the right to vote. Would be nice to cast a vote that actually mattered every four years.
    After George Wallace got 46 electoral votes in 1968, the House voted for a cons utional amendment to switch to direct popular election. It died in the Senate.

    I recommend clicking through to the Congressional debate. It's genteel, lucid and as pertinent now as ever.



    https://x.com/greggiroux/status/1838021174967570893

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    i'll be sure to bookmark this post in case Trump wins the national popular vote but loses by way of losing PA/MI/WI by like a thousand votes.

    it's not a scenario that's too far fetched this year around imo
    Another red wave wish cast

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    After George Wallace got 46 electoral votes in 1968, the House voted for a cons utional amendment to switch to direct popular election. It died in the Senate.

    I recommend clicking through to the Congressional debate. It's genteel, lucid and as pertinent now as ever.


    Both the House and Senate were Safe D at that period of US History with the coalescence of the Dixiecrat Democrats which are mostly modern (R)s outside of the VRA districts, though, along with the progressives in the northeast, union belt, and out west. And the vote itself was bipartisan and roughly equally the fault of both party.

    Another red wave wish cast
    How is mentioning a possibility of a scenario of Trump losing a red wave wish cast?

    even if the Senate and House go near worst case scenario for D's (it's have to be some very narrow split ticketing in a lot of states, possible but a very slim squeeze) and the Rs max out in both chambers with a 6-3 SCOTUS but Kamala beats Trump, it's a huge win for Democrats and a crushing blow to MAGA and probably the end of the MAGA movement forever. Even the Freedom Caucus is mostly dead. It's basically 2014 again in America.


    Yam s winning popular vote is wish casting
    Trump winning the popular vote means much more to the pride of partisan libs than actual pragmatist people.

    I mean, would you rather win by getting favorable ref calls and making your free throws despite shooting a lower %, or, would you rather lose with a higher shooting percentage, less turnovers, but the other team got 49/50 on free throws ?? That is the question and the latter seems to be you libs' answer.
    Last edited by Millennial_Messiah; 09-25-2024 at 12:24 AM.

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    Both the House and Senate were Safe D at that period of US History with the coalescence of the Dixiecrat Democrats which are mostly modern (R)s outside of the VRA districts, though, along with the progressives in the northeast, union belt, and out west. And the vote itself was bipartisan and roughly equally the fault of both party.


    How is mentioning a possibility of a scenario of Trump losing a red wave wish cast?
    Yam s winning popular vote is wish casting

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    Both the House and Senate were Safe D at that period of US History with the coalescence of the Dixiecrat Democrats which are mostly modern (R)s outside of the VRA districts, though, along with the progressives in the northeast, union belt, and out west. And the vote itself was bipartisan and roughly equally the fault of both party.
    The broad bipartisan sentiment of the House in 1969 was that the possibilities of popular election losers winning the presidency and faithless electors are per se bad, and tend to delegitimate the system. I agree.

    Won't happen unless the filibuster gets nuked, which I support. In normal democracies the majority rules.

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    Or just have the election outcome based on the popular vote like every other normal election in the history of ever
    What's the point when people aren't ID'd, unlike the rest of us here in the 1st World

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    What's the point when people aren't ID'd, unlike the rest of us here in the 1st World
    Prove there is widespread fraud.

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    What's the point when people aren't ID'd, unlike the rest of us here in the 1st World
    LOL doesn't know that first world just means the US's allies in their war on the Soviets.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    i'll be sure to bookmark this post in case Trump wins the national popular vote but loses by way of losing PA/MI/WI by like a thousand votes.

    it's not a scenario that's too far fetched this year around imo
    OK. We can also discuss gerrymandering and bookmark it later in the same fashion. A good policy/ procedure is a good policy/ procedure.

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    Yam s winning popular vote is wish casting
    He's tied now in several National polls...it isn't wishcasting at this point.

    https://x.com/QuantusInsights/status...53923123511442

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    Trump has a decent chance to win

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    Trump has a decent chance to win
    Immorality is big in the U.S., he sure does.

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    He's tied now in several National polls...it isn't wishcasting at this point.

    https://x.com/QuantusInsights/status...53923123511442
    several


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    wrong about pizzagate TSA's Avatar
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    what's funny about that?

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    Trump has a decent chance to win
    He's got a great chance to win the electoral vote. Little chance at being the peoples' choice.

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    what's funny about that?
    This is so typical of you.

    If 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing sugarless gum, you would glorify the virtues of chewing whatever fringe that 5th dentist recommended.

    You can't help yourself.

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    wrong about pizzagate TSA's Avatar
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    This is so typical of you.

    If 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing sugarless gum, you would glorify the virtues of chewing whatever fringe that 5th dentist recommended.

    You can't help yourself.
    This is so typical of you.

    Is the CNN/SSRS a fringe poll?
    Is the Times/Sienna a fringe poll?

    You just can't help yourself

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    Yam Tits's Bonespur Xray Ef-man's Avatar
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    He's tied now in several National polls...it isn't wishcasting at this point.

    https://x.com/QuantusInsights/status...53923123511442
    “Based on regression analysis using Gallup's party ID and historical election results”

    And you are a fringe liar

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