2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

some guy on hornets reddit broke the story yesterday

Originally Posted by Mr. Body

I think there was chatter that they should go for Donovan Clingan in the draft. Probably should have.

LOL wasting their high lottery pick on Salaun because the Spurs leaked that they were interested.

Whoa. Twolves got weaker, IMO.

I think the Wolves had to do it. KAT's contract was a beast and he's absolutely not worth it. They take a step back on the floor, but this prevents them from a death sentence in a year or two.

Not sure about it for the Knicks. I've never been a KAT guy at all. Better than Randle though.

Now, about that 8th pick...

Honestly don't hate it for MINN if this allows them to keep Naz (not sure if it does or not). Quite honestly could be addition by subtraction if allows them to more fully focus the offense around Ant and Randle can be more of a secondary scorer. Donte isn't a bad addition at all either, adds shooting.

But poor Donte, being the Nova guy who doesn't get to stick around with his buddies.

LOL Wolves being cheap with their ownership situation such a cluster . Should have given that team at least another year together to try to win one. Hopefully makes Ant walk and we reap the rewards in 20131.

The Wolves were trending upwards and they made a decision to be less compe ive because of financial reasons. There really isn’t a need to spin this. If this were the Spurs and they made it as deep as the Wolves did this past season, it would be a travesty to break up that core.

Counterpoint: KAT's a ing loser

Originally Posted by scott

Counterpoint: KAT's a ing loser

Pointercount: So is Julian

Originally Posted by baseline bum

Pointercount: So is Julian

Seriously, we all have our weird things to cling unto. Supporting the Timberwolves? Why? Especially when it’s clear cut that the goal of this move wasn’t to upgrade the roster.

Aaaaaand, now I remember. Damn, it’s been a long summer. Scott wasn’t in favor of the move with the Twolves and any sign that points to that being a good move for the Spurs, he has to double down and hate on it. These are things I’d expect from JD Vance and his ilk, tbh.

Twolves got weaker but towns is a huge mental midget and a no show against Dallas and there were already “trade KAT” talks amongst their fanbase. To be fair, like bum said, Randle is also a small time loser. Maybe by 20131 Edwards will be on the lakers and we get the Twolves lottery pick.

Oh Joy. KAT and Thibs together again. This should be fun.

Knicks are the only team dumb enough to go anywhere near that awful KAT contract. Knicks probably think this helps them lure Booker at some point.

Originally Posted by Dejounte

The Wolves were trending upwards and they made a decision to be less compe ive because of financial reasons. There really isn’t a need to spin this. If this were the Spurs and they made it as deep as the Wolves did this past season, it would be a travesty to break up that core.

I think this and the Klay move are bell weathers of a new financial paradigm. The Second Apron is manifesting as we watch. Teams know they WILL go into a down cycle, and they don’t want their picks moved to the end of the round, and locked from being traded. It’s not just being cheap.

Wolves, what are you doing? If Ant thought the paint was cramped before…

Is this just ty ownership trying to save money?

The rare kind of trade that seems horrible for all parties involved.

This could go either way. Randle was great before his injury and TWolves really needed another player who can create his own shot. But then again, he tends to crumble in the most important moments.
And I don't think he can play together with Naz, not enough rim protection against serious teams.

Getting DiVincenzio is a huge win, bargain contract for 3 more years.

I know I'm missing something, but Randle+DiVicenzo combine for $40M this year, with KAT getting $49M.
They were projected to be at $218M with KAT, meaning they're still well over second apron which is at $188M after this trade.
Someone will have to go next summer if they're to keep Naz. Either McDaniels or Randle.

As for the Knicks, losing DiVincenzo sucks, but KAT is a way better fit than Randle and with this trade they should be the biggest threat to the Celtics.
Brunson/Bridges/Hart/OG/KAT is a serious lineup and we know Thibs doesn't want more than 8 man rotation when things get serious.
Robinson, McBride, Achiuwa, Morris, KBD, Shamet should be solid enough when staggered with starting lineup.

Crazy trade on the eve of training camp...I wonder if the Randle/Rudy pairing somehow makes even less sense than KAT/Rudy. If Minny takes a clear step back in the next 2 years there are going to be a lot of teams vulturing over them (Spurs included) for Ant and Naz.

Originally Posted by exstatic

I think this and the Klay move are bell weathers of a new financial paradigm. The Second Apron is manifesting as we watch. Teams know they WILL go into a down cycle, and they don’t want their picks moved to the end of the round, and locked from being traded. It’s not just being cheap.

Darn, so the Warriors not resigning Klay, and this T-Wolves trade, you think the second apron is the reason for it and that they may not have happened if this rule wasn't in place? Do you think the Warriors would have re-signed Klay if not for the second apron?

Also, wasn't KAT supposedly good friends with Anthony Edwards? You think the Wolves consulted with AE before making this trade?

I wonder if there would ever be a chance if Edwards wants out in a couple of years if he'd/they consider trading with the Spurs to get that first round pick back. That pick could be a lot better for the Spurs that I was thinking even just a month ago. Man, things can happen quickly in the NBA.

I don't think it's a great trade for either team. Then again, it could work out for both teams. Have to see how the players mesh on their new teams.

Originally Posted by Baseline Bum

Pointercount: So is Julian

Champagnie? No arguments from here there... but what does that have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by Dejounte

Aaaaaand, now I remember. Damn, it’s been a long summer. Scott wasn’t in favor of the move with the Twolves and any sign that points to that being a good move for the Spurs, he has to double down and hate on it. These are things I’d expect from JD Vance and his ilk, tbh.

This move will be relatively irrelevant to the Spurs having Minnesota's pick in 2031, when KAT will be 35-years old anyway. That didn't even cross my mind, because 7 years is beyond the time frame of a trade like this mattering. LOL JD Vance.

Bottom line is that my opinion is that KAT is a loser, and they weren't going to win anything with him anyway. If this allows Minnesota to feature Naz more and keep him long term, it's a W for them.

Originally Posted by scott

Champagnie? No arguments from here there... but what does that have to do with anything?



This move will be relatively irrelevant to the Spurs having Minnesota's pick in 2031, when KAT will be 35-years old anyway. That didn't even cross my mind, because 7 years is beyond the time frame of a trade like this mattering. LOL JD Vance.

Bottom line is that my opinion is that KAT is a loser, and they weren't going to win anything with him anyway. If this allows Minnesota to feature Naz more and keep him long term, it's a W for them.

That pick can matter if Anthony Edwards asks out in 2 or 3 years from now. The Spurs would be in position to trade the pick back to them in a package for Edwards, or other players. It can definitely matter before then IMO.

NYK saying yo' aprons though. Their tax bill is now estimated at $35MM this year, and they have $170MM+ committed going out all the way to 2027-28. Yikes.

Originally Posted by Ice009

That pick can matter if Anthony Edwards asks out in 2 or 3 years from now. The Spurs would be in position to trade the pick back to them in a package for Edwards, or other players. It can definitely matter before then IMO.

Make sure to @ me when that happens.