Spurs Select Rob Dillingham 8th Overall in the 2024 NBA Draft

[Chinook]

I've made peace with Dillingham. I'm bummed they couldn't find a way to pick up TSJ. He seems to be the guy PATFO wants Branham to be but bigger and more athletic. Obviously you can't completely ignore the allegations, but a guy being legally exonerated has to mean something too.

[poopbox]

Who cares about his defense. This guy walked into the league with one of the most sought after skillsets in the nba, dribble penetration by a guard.

We don't have one guard on our entire roster who can consistently get from the 3 point line to the rim using only one or 0 screens. It's not possible to be an elite team without at least 2 players who can do it and we have exactly 0.

By the time we play The Wolves for the second time CP will be hurt, we will have stupidly moved Castle to the 3 for exactly 0 reasons, Devin will be hurt again, and we'll be trotting Branhim and Wessly out against Ant and Rob

They will probably drop 40 a piece on us

[LeBowen]

Who cares about his defense. This guy walked into the league with one of the most sought after skillsets in the nba, dribble penetration by a guard.

And how many undersized, awful defenders have we seen in these past playoffs?
Players 6'2 and under get DNPs in the playoffs if they're not either 25ppg scorers or solid defensively.
If Dillingham becomes a 25ppg scorer, then we can on PATFO.
If he's another one in the long line of zero defense, average scorers, then you have nothing to complain about.

We don't have one guard on our entire roster who can consistently get from the 3 point line to the rim using only one or 0 screens. It's not possible to be an elite team without at least 2 players who can do it and we have exactly 0.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Dillingham's finishing around the rim will be non-existant in the NBA. He can get there, but that's about it.
Nuggets won a ring with just one offensively good guard.

The thing I'd be worried about more is if one of those wings who were available at #8 turn out to be legit players.
Our wing rotation is Barnes, Keldon, Jeremy and scrubs. Even Jeremy is a scrub.
Unlike guards, good wings are really hard to get these days, so if Williams or Buzelis develop, that's when I'll start ting on PATFO.
Not because of a flashy 6'1 no-defense guard.

Also, some of you still come here just to on everything, regardless of if there's a reason for it or not.

[MarCowMar]

Who cares about his defense. This guy walked into the league with one of the most sought after skillsets in the nba, dribble penetration by a guard.

We don't have one guard on our entire roster who can consistently get from the 3 point line to the rim using only one or 0 screens. It's not possible to be an elite team without at least 2 players who can do it and we have exactly 0.

By the time we play The Wolves for the second time CP will be hurt, we will have stupidly moved Castle to the 3 for exactly 0 reasons, Devin will be hurt again, and we'll be trotting Branhim and Wessly out against Ant and Rob

They will probably drop 40 a piece on us

This is Pop playing 5D chess. Let Dillingham run up the stat sheet on us. Grumble a bit about how maybe we screwed up that trade, etc.

Make the public think the Wolves won the trade so more teams will trade future picks & swaps to the Spurs.

[Splits]

who was that Dilly fluffer turned pro-trade-for-nothing poster? Mister something

[baseline bum]

And people call us sniffers. I was a fan of Rob for most of the season, and I can tell you that while he can dunk, he’s nowhere near as explosive as Ja, not even close. Ja is DRose/John Wall level, a guard that comes around about once a decade. Ja goes right AT 7 footers, and dunks OVER them.

Gotta disagree, Ja's not a Rose level athlete. Not even Westbrook was. Pre injury Derrick Rose was one of a kind.

[BackHome]

Dilly is a perfect fit if your a playoff team wanting an offensive spark leading the second unit. Also, and we are not a legit playoff type of team as we have way to many wholes requiring upgrade in talent

[dn0774]

Gotta disagree, Ja's not a Rose level athlete. Not even Westbrook was. Pre injury Derrick Rose was one of a kind.

Yea I still watch his old high school mix on youtube every year or so, insane leaper. Too bad he was a terrible lander.

[scott]

Presumed #8 Pick Tiddy Salaun actually looked pretty good for CHA today.

[BackHome]

Ron Holland looks like he had a good game 10pts, 6 rebounds, 5 assists

[onechance87]

Presumed #8 Pick Tiddy Salaun actually looked pretty good for CHA today.

yup knocking down 3s and hustling...Hoping sochan knocks down 3s this year,Major fail if he still struggles.

[Pauleta14]

Presumed #8 Pick Tiddy Salaun actually looked pretty good for CHA today.

I hope there's a good development team in CHA, any time I watch him I just see his stupid potential with his size strength and length

He can become a (vesatile) monster defensively

[John B]

Nah Dillingham is another empty calorie player like Trae. But yeah I would’ve gambled on Buzelis or Williams.

[exstatic]

Nah Dillingham is another empty calorie player like Trae. But yeah I would’ve gambled on Buzelis or Williams.

I think a gamble on Minny being crap by 2030-20131 is a better gamble. Your mileage may vary, but that could be a fresh infusion of talent right when we need it at rookie scale pricing. You’ve got two shots, both the swap and the pick.

Out at the current edge of tradeability:

2030: double swap option, Dallas and Minny 2-30
2031: Minny pick, unprotected, and Sacto swap unprotected

[rankingtear]

All roster decisions is with the assumption Wemby is the no. 1 option so great perimeter defenders around him to lighten his load on the defensive side of the ball and a good screener at the guard spot when he assumes ball handling duties. Trae and Dilly are the guys you target if you think Wemby is more of a second option like AD. FO is operating with the assumption that he is a championship level 1st option in a few years.

[TheChillFactor]

All roster decisions is with the assumption Wemby is the no. 1 option so great perimeter defenders around him to lighten his load on the defensive side of the ball and a good screener at the guard spot when he assumes ball handling duties. Trae and Dilly are the guys you target if you think Wemby is more of a second option like AD. FO is operating with the assumption that he is a championship level 1st option in a few years.

Exactly this. If we didn't have Wemby, I'm all for being up in arms about not taking a specific player.

But the entire team is built around Wemby, and we have to look at how these guys fit around him. PATFO seem to be prioritizing (and I agree) having switchable players on defense that can be effective on offense without the ball.

Who cares what Dillingham does? He ain't going to be doing it here and he ain't going to be doing it in a way that Wemby needs around him. If you're bringing this up as part of a larger point that the way PATFO do things needs to be totally revamped, lol sure buddy.

[Mr. Body]

I gotta laugh at those who say "who cares about defense?" Just go play the latest NBA2K or whatever, you clearly don't care about trying to get a winning team together.

Again, I wish Dillingham the best. I think he can be a flamethrower, but there are serious drawbacks. With how bad the current squad is at many basics, adding a player who is even worse at fundamentals like defense would be severe. He could have been a boost this year, but as the years went on, I could see the team needing to draft over or replace him. He's perfect for Minny right now, though.

The better question to me is who the Spurs were actually targeting at #8 before the Wolves gave them a non-refusable offer. Buzelis? Carter? Knecht? Cody Williams? Tbh, any of them would be nice to have, but none of them really move the needle for me long-term.

[ambchang]

Wish Dillingham the best, he is going to be buckets going forward, maybe a Jamal Crawford or Ben Gordon type player, but I am not going to miss a player like that.

I was hoping of getting Williams, but oh well, we will see.

That said, trading a #8 for a chance at a future #2 and a swap is just hard to turn down, especially with the 2nd apron era.

[spurraider21]

I think a gamble on Minny being crap by 2030-20131 is a better gamble. Your mileage may vary, but that could be a fresh infusion of talent right when we need it at rookie scale pricing. You’ve got two shots, both the swap and the pick.

Out at the current edge of tradeability:

2030: double swap option, Dallas and Minny 2-30
2031: Minny pick, unprotected, and Sacto swap unprotected

to be fair the team needs an infusion of talent now as well

if the bulls pick conveys this year and we wanted to send out one of our three 2025 picks for a future pick, that would make more sense than drafting 3 more guys (let alone if the CHA pick conveys)

felt like a squandered opportunity and borderline panic move to me. and yeah minny might be bad in 2030. they might be good. they might be fine. but we had a #8 pick looking us in the face.

[LeBowen]

The better question to me is who the Spurs were actually targeting at #8 before the Wolves gave them a non-refusable offer. Buzelis? Carter? Knecht? Cody Williams? Tbh, any of them would be nice to have, but none of them really move the needle for me long-term.

I wasn't high on any of them, but we can't know for sure. If Buzelis or Williams turn out to be legit starters, Spurs scouting department will have to answer some questions.
Versatile wings are hard to get and I'm not sure not taking a chance on one of those two was the right call. I wasn't high on either of them, but I'm no expert.
Considering that Mamu and Sidy will be fighting to get minutes on wing positions, we definitely had a roster sport for a rookie wing and they surely could've done something to work the salaries out.

[Mr. Body]

I wasn't high on any of them, but we can't know for sure. If Buzelis or Williams turn out to be legit starters, Spurs scouting department will have to answer some questions.
Versatile wings are hard to get and I'm not sure not taking a chance on one of those two was the right call. I wasn't high on either of them, but I'm no expert.
Considering that Mamu and Sidy will be fighting to get minutes on wing positions, we definitely had a roster sport for a rookie wing and they surely could've done something to work the salaries out.

I would take Harrison Barnes for two years over Cody Williams or Buzelis.

I'll be happy to be proven wrong - they league always needs more talent. Right now Cody Williams doesn't seem any better than Keita Bates-Diop to me and Buzelis is like a Franz Wagner who cannot shoot to save his life and has no creation skills.

The team definitely needs wing help, but that's Barnes for now.

[exstatic]

to be fair the team needs an infusion of talent now as well

if the bulls pick conveys this year and we wanted to send out one of our three 2025 picks for a future pick, that would make more sense than drafting 3 more guys (let alone if the CHA pick conveys)

felt like a squandered opportunity and borderline panic move to me. and yeah minny might be bad in 2030. they might be good. they might be fine. but we had a #8 pick looking us in the face.

A #8 pick in a crap draft. The consensus so far this year is that the top 7 picks in 25 would ALL have been #1 last year.

Spreading the talent acquisition out is the key. We have 5 FRPs from the last 3 drafts, plus two more next year. We’re not lacking for development projects.

[Seventyniner]

I wasn't high on any of them, but we can't know for sure. If Buzelis or Williams turn out to be legit starters, Spurs scouting department will have to answer some questions.
Versatile wings are hard to get and I'm not sure not taking a chance on one of those two was the right call. I wasn't high on either of them, but I'm no expert.
Considering that Mamu and Sidy will be fighting to get minutes on wing positions, we definitely had a roster sport for a rookie wing and they surely could've done something to work the salaries out.

I think the salary angle is more about potentially having to sign the #8 pick to an extension in 2028 when the Spurs already have so many other near-term draft picks coming, rather than the #8 pick's rookie scale contract between now and then.

Still, having a player be good enough to command a big extension is generally more good than bad.

[Mr. Body]

A #8 pick in a crap draft. The consensus so far this year is that the top 7 picks in 25 would ALL have been #1 last year.

Spreading the talent acquisition out is the key. We have 5 FRPs from the last 3 drafts, plus two more next year. We’re not lacking for development projects.

Yeah, on the one hand trading away a mid-lottery pick is ballsy as . I don't remember this happening before. On the other, you gotta look at who is actually there. If that was their only pick, that's one thing, but they already pulled one of the top players in the draft (imo).

1. Would I do the opposite? Would I trade the future Minny pick and swap for Buzelis? No, I would not.

2. Would I trade the chance to get Harrison Barnes plus a Sacramento swap for Buzelis? Probably not.

3. Would I trade the future Minny pick and swap, the future Sacramento swap, and Harrison Barnes for Matas Buzelis? Definitely not.

[LeBowen]

I would take Harrison Barnes for two years over Cody Williams or Buzelis.

Me too, but the thing is that our wing rotation is really thin.
Barnes and Keldon are the only guarantees.
Jeremy needs to make some big improvements or he won't be a part of long-term plans.
Others are just filler at this point. I guess Castle will spend some time at SF.

Right now Cody Williams doesn't seem any better than Keita Bates-Diop to me and Buzelis is like a Franz Wagner who cannot shoot to save his life and has no creation skills.

Yeah, I'm not that high on either of them, but if you remember I made an in-depth list of potential wings we can get from around the league and it's slim pickings. Taking a swing with #8 pick when we have so many already wouldn't be the end of the world because this season is the last one where we should be taking swings. And I guess the upcoming draft. Then it's going to be about winning.

I'm fully aware that Minnesota picks could be really valuable and I understand the path they took.
It's just that we have to wait and see if the path they took was the right one.

I think the salary angle is more about potentially having to sign the #8 pick to an extension in 2028 when the Spurs already have so many other near-term draft picks coming, rather than the #8 pick's rookie scale contract between now and then.

Still, having a player be good enough to command a big extension is generally more good than bad.

Yeah, if you draft a good player it can't be a negative. Can easily trade him if he doesn't fit the roster or salaries are an issue.