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i have no clue what the process is. but this looks like its from a really early season, they probably had vetting back then.
No fn way.
Theoretically it’s cool but others have already thought about harnessing energy from the earth spinning. The Coriolis effect produces wind and some tidal energy already. The gold “mining” part is super stupid
Aside: How do they assess the validity of the ideas before they put people on the show?
Or they want nuts on for the sake of interest?
Last edited by pgardn; 10-08-2024 at 05:41 PM.
i have no clue what the process is. but this looks like its from a really early season, they probably had vetting back then.
ding ding. he even says the machine would start by cranking a lever or using a battery source.
How far are you going to drag this obviously bogus shtick?
LOVE SNL, however this scene was boring. try harder! I need a good laugh
I get what you’re saying, and I know that this system is just transferring energy, not creating it. But even with that, my setup is still really practical and can be super useful, especially for people who want to live off-grid or have backup power. While it’s true that energy is lost at each step, using two alternators creates enough power to keep small devices running. Plus, this system doesn’t rely on gas, petrochemicals, or regular electricity.
A lot of people today are looking for ways to reduce their reliance on traditional power and be more independent. This setup can be a great backup or emergency system without needing things like solar panels, wind turbines, or gas generators, which can be expensive or complicated to set up.
In a situation where you need power but can’t rely on the grid, this machine could be a reliable alternative. Sure, it’s not designed for big, large-scale power like what’s needed for an entire house, but for off-grid living or emergency use, it’s a practical, low-cost option that people can put together themselves. It gives people more control over their energy, and that’s becoming more important now than ever.
It can possibly run an entire house except a house in really nice weather that had no energy problems as far as climate control.
You know you will also be washing your clothes by hand and drying your clothes outside. If you want your water heated forget it.
Better have all LED lights and probably buy dried food just to add water to. Now if you added a bicycle that could be pedaled to run a generator and were Tour de France quality rider you could get something done. Get a really good battery panel. Maybe eat dried high caloric stuff you grew in your Mediterranean climate garden all year round.
And the water part makes no sense in your machine.
I also dont understand what "regular electricity" is?
if you wanted to be off grid or whatever your better bet is just to have solar panels (if in an area where it makes sense) and a gas generator. what you are proposing will be more complicated and less efficient, though it would make for a cool project to present at a school science fair
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With this setup, it will keep running even if the batteries are dead. If the batteries lose their charge, the alternators will still spin and generate energy, allowing power to keep flowing. Just because the batteries are drained, it doesn’t mean the system stops working.
HOWEVER with a solar powered system, if the batteries die, they need to be replaced, and if there's no sun, you're limited in your ability to generate more power.
I understand your concerns, but 50 amps is actually a good target. Most RVs today use 50-amp connections to power everything inside, like lights, appliances, and even climate control. So for a smaller setup, like in an off-grid situation, 50 amps is enough to power things like LED lights, small appliances, and to charge devices.
I agree that regular appliances can use a lot of power, but nowadays we have more energy-efficient appliances that don’t need as much electricity to run. If you do some research, you’ll find lots of low-energy options available, which are designed to use less power but still work well. More people are looking for these options as they try to save energy or live off-grid.
When I said 'regular electricity,' I meant AC power, which is the type of electricity that powers most homes. My system generates DC power, like a battery, but with an inverter, it gets converted to AC, so it can be used by regular household devices.
As for the water part, that's an entirely different machine I haven't revealed yet. I'd like to continue with the current machine first. Waiting for full questioning on why this wouldn't work.
the alternator doesnt just work in a vacuum. it requires an initial energy source. it turns one form of energy (mechanical energy from the spinning tire) into another (electrical to charge the battery). absent the mechanical energy, there is no energy to convert into electricity. if your battery is dead, you have nothing providing energy to your DC motor, and therefore nothing to cause the tire to spin. i mean sure, when power cuts out, the tire will continue to spin (interia) for a brief period of time as it decelerates to a stop, but thats going to be extremely short lived.
like i said. nifty science fair project. but nothing practical here.
I understand the alternator needs an initial energy source, which is why the idea includes a manual start option if needed. If the batteries are dead, a lever can be used to spin the flywheel by hand. Once it reaches the right speed, the DC motor will begin drawing power from the energy loop created by the alternators. The flywheel’s gears help it accelerate quickly, and once everything is running smoothly, the lever can be detached, and the system can sustain itself.
The key advantage of this idea is that, once it’s running, it can keep going for as long as the alternators and components last. Unlike conventional generators, which need frequent refueling or stopping for maintenance, this system can run indefinitely if necessary, without needing to be shut off often.
So like I mentioned earlier... you can have "Unlimited Power" without needing Gas, Electricity, Propane, or Solar.
This setup would be much quieter and more environmentally friendly than gas-powered generators. While it’s not a perfect solution for every situation, it’s a practical, reliable option for off-grid power or as a backup system that can operate efficiently with minimal intervention.
this is where it all falls apart. you are basically recreating the infinite energy meme
so you use a lever to get the machine to start whirring. then you detach the lever. the machine is going to die pretty quickly past that point unless you keep adding external energy. at best its like those gimmick flashlights that you charge by spinning the lever so you can use them in emergency situations where new batteries may not be available. sure, after you stop spinning the lever, the flashlight stays on for a bit. but not long, and thats because its barely using power. you want to provide charge to a larger device and you are SOL
Last edited by spurraider21; 10-09-2024 at 04:43 PM.
Haha! I see what you’re getting at with the meme! I get that it might seem like I’m trying to suggest an 'infinite energy' solution, but that’s not what this idea is about. I’m fully aware that energy can’t be created from nothing, and I’m not trying to propose a perpetual motion machine.this is where it all falls apart. you are basically recreating the infinite energy meme
so you use a lever to get the machine to start whirring. then you detach the lever. the machine is going to die pretty quickly past that point unless you keep adding external energy. at best its like those gimmick flashlights that you charge by spinning the lever so you can use them in emergency situations where new batteries may not be available. sure, after you stop spinning the lever, the flashlight stays on for a bit. but not long, and thats because its barely using power. you want to provide charge to a larger device and you are SOL
The goal here is to create a sustainable loop that can keep running for extended periods once it’s started, using energy that’s generated by the alternators to keep the motor running. There will always be some energy losses—whether through heat or friction—but the system isn’t about trying to break the laws of physics. It’s designed to extend power availability for off-grid or backup situations where you can’t rely on traditional energy sources.
It’s not going to make anyone rich, but it’s a practical option for small-scale power generation without constantly needing fuel or the grid. Thanks for the humor
again, this is the issue. the alternators arent "generating energy" they are converting mechanical energy into electrical energy. without energy input, you arent getting energy output.
if you are talking about conserving/storing energy then you are better off with a battery instead of some device that continues to run and drains whatever residual energy there is
No the alternators will not keep generating energy.
Explain how they would.
Alternators do not work on their own.
Last edited by pgardn; 10-09-2024 at 08:45 PM.
I get what you're saying, and you’re right that alternators don’t actually 'create' energy. They convert mechanical energy (from something moving, like the spinning wheel) into electrical energy. There always needs to be some energy input to get things started.
My setup isn’t about storing energy like a battery does, or solar generator would do... Instead, it’s about keeping the system running for a long time using the energy the alternators produce. Once it’s started, the alternators generate enough energy to keep the motor running. So, it’s not about creating new energy from nothing, but making the most of the energy that’s already being cycled through the system.
Hope this make sense
You’re right that alternators don’t work on their own—they need mechanical energy to start generating electricity. In my system, it works a bit like how WWII planes used to be started. You would crank the propeller by hand to get the motor running. Similarly, in this setup, you can use a crank handle to get the system started.
Once the alternators hit their stride, they generate enough energy to power the motor and keep the system going. It’s not about the alternators working by themselves but rather keeping a sustained loop of energy where the alternators convert mechanical energy into electrical energy, which then powers the motor to keep things moving.
It’s designed to sustain itself once it’s started, as long as the mechanical components are in good shape. While it’s not meant for large-scale energy production, it’s useful for off-grid or backup power situations.
In this setup, you can use a crank handle to get the system started.
Once the alternators hit their stride, they generate enough energy to power the motor and keep the system going. It’s not about the alternators working by themselves but rather keeping a sustained loop of energy where the alternators convert mechanical energy into electrical energy, which then powers the motor to keep things moving.
Gosh, a crank start unlimited power alternator? What will they think of next? A rocket to the Moon maybe?
What questions do you have that make you think this system won't work? Please do tell/ask away.
K, what's stopping you from putting it together?
wrong again. the alternators convert the mechanical energy from your crank handle (and bike tire) into electrical energy. once you stop cranking the handle, you have capped the energy that has gone into the system. it will not continue to run for any meaningful period of time. i also dont know what purpose this serves when you can just operate a crank handle to power a battery. of course, aside from a nifty science fair project
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