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    Paul, Castle, Vassell, Keldon, Wemby would be interesting.

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    All i know is Devin better get back quick because Champenie ain't it. That dude will be a ghost once the regular season starts.

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    All i know is Devin better get back quick because Champenie ain't it. That dude will be a ghost once the regular season starts.
    he's had exactly 1 season as a full time nba player and looks like he's improving

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    Paul, Vassell, Castle, Mamu, Wemby.

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    Castle
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    With a healthy Devin:

    SL: CP0/Vassell/Champ/Sochan/Wemby
    Bench: Tre/Castle/Keldon/Barnes/Mamu with Wesley getting those "energizer" minutes as needed

    Obviously Mamu at C is probably not gonna happen as he's terrible there but so is Zollins tbh and Mamu has been better at everything else for almost a year now.

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    am i the only one that sees Mamu as the reserve 4? last year it was a hodgepodge of undersized guys like Osman, Keldon, or the attempts to try Barlow at PF which didnt work. Mamu very much doesnt work as a 5. really seems like a natural way to get him minutes while giving him opportunities to play alongside Vic, and those guys play with good chemistry

    should be the primary reserve for Sochan

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    am i the only one that sees Mamu as the reserve 4? last year it was a hodgepodge of undersized guys like Osman, Keldon, or the attempts to try Barlow at PF which didnt work. Mamu very much doesnt work as a 5. really seems like a natural way to get him minutes while giving him opportunities to play alongside Vic, and those guys play with good chemistry
    Spot on.
    To me he looks like a textbook connective big forward. Does a bit of everything with high IQ.

    should be the primary reserve for Sochan
    I'd argue that he'll be a reserve for Barnes, similar roles on both ends.

    It's actually going to be interesting to see how rotations develop this season because in those final games of the season, Mamu looked way more complementary to Wemby than Jeremy ever did.

    The issue is that both him and Keldon are bad defensively, having them play next to Collins is never going to end well on that end.

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    he's had exactly 1 season as a full time nba player and looks like he's improving
    As a Spurs fan I will be very glad if he pans out. For me an my eyeballs, he is not very good at all. If you're gonna be a shooter and a starter you MUST give something else like above average defense. This dude is very slow footed and obviously not focused on that department. Osman or Douggie would have given yuu way more than this guy.

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    It's actually going to be interesting to see how rotations develop this season because in those final games of the season, Mamu looked way more complementary to Wemby than Jeremy ever did.
    Basically this, Mamu seemed to have nice chemistry with Wemby the last couple weeks of last season on the offensive end. Mamu's presence on the defensive end is a problem to say the least; if he is in as the lone big or with any big not named Victor it becomes a layup line for the opposing team.

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    Preferred: CP0, Jones, Castle, Vassell, VW

    100% guaranteed Pop: CP0, Vassell, Barnes, Sochan, VW. I'd bet $1k that isn't the starting lineup once Vassell is healthy.

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    Preferred: CP0, Jones, Castle, Vassell, VW

    100% guaranteed Pop: CP0, Vassell, Barnes, Sochan, VW. I'd bet $1k that isn't the starting lineup once Vassell is healthy.
    You need a bookie?

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    Preferred: CP0, Jones, Castle, Vassell, VW

    100% guaranteed Pop: CP0, Vassell, Barnes, Sochan, VW. I'd bet $1k that isn't the starting lineup once Vassell is healthy.
    based

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    You need a bookie?
    Ummm, I set the lines and rake the pot. But lemme know if you need a line of credit

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    You need a bookie?
    I'll give you a free longshot


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    If I were coach:

    PG Min SG Min SF Min PF Min C Min
    CP3 28 Vassell 30 Champ 18 Barnes 20 Wemb 32
    Jones 14 Castle 16 Johnson 24 Sochan 24 Bassey 16
    Castle 6 Champ 2 Barnes 6 Mamu 4 Collins 0
    TOT 48 48 48 48 48

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    Wemby 32
    Vassell 30
    CP3 28
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    Johnson 24
    Sochan 24
    Castle 22
    Champ 20
    Bassey 16
    Mamu 4
    Collins 0

    I didn't list every player I'd give zero to, but wanted to especially make it clear that Collins would get ZERO.

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    Preferred: CP0, Jones, Castle, Vassell, VW

    100% guaranteed Pop: CP0, Vassell, Barnes, Sochan, VW. I'd bet $1k that isn't the starting lineup once Vassell is healthy.
    Only one shooter in Vassell, so terrible spacing. Back court would get exploited on D. You wouldn’t even need big guards to do it.

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    Only one shooter in Vassell, so terrible spacing. Back court would get exploited on D. You wouldn’t even need big guards to do it.
    Also remember, nobody on this team is a proven shooter. So there's that.

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    I agree. I think this acquisition has been overrated some. He looked pretty meh in SAC last year, and has generally been one of those frustrating players throughout his career who people expected more from (think Sean Elliott).

    However his biggest contribution will come off the court, which I think will be huge.
    On no planet would I ever compare Harrison Barnes to Sean Elliott. Sean's a two time all star who was a high end defender until his transplant and hit one of the most important shots in franchise history that broke the Blazers and basically clinched a le. Sean's not just some feelgood story making it back after kidney failure, he's a franchise legend and the only better SF the team has ever had was Kawhi.

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    If I were coach:

    PG Min SG Min SF Min PF Min C Min
    CP3 28 Vassell 30 Champ 18 Barnes 20 Wemb 32
    Jones 14 Castle 16 Johnson 24 Sochan 24 Bassey 16
    Castle 6 Champ 2 Barnes 6 Mamu 4 Collins 0
    TOT 48 48 48 48 48

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    Wemby 32
    Vassell 30
    CP3 28
    Barnes 26
    Johnson 24
    Sochan 24
    Castle 22
    Champ 20
    Bassey 16
    Mamu 4
    Collins 0

    I didn't list every player I'd give zero to, but wanted to especially make it clear that Collins would get ZERO.
    I'd probably give Castle the SF minutes you have assigned to Barnes, especially since Vassell will probably be playing more like 33 minutes a night. Love seeing the goose egg for Bran Ham. On paper it looks like the Spurs should trade Tre but he probably doesn't land you anyone good enough to be much of an upgrade over Sochan and Barnes at the PF nor Keldon at the three. Before CP3 came it was pretty obvious to have Tre play say 28 mpg at PG, Castle 12 mpg at PG and maybe 14 more at SG/SF, then Wesley 8mpg to see if he can become somebody. Really wish they'd just salary dump Branham since he doesn't deserve any minutes that should be going to Castle at the SG.

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    Also remember, nobody on this team is a proven shooter. So there's that.
    Champ is 37% career. Keldon is 36% career. That lineup also severely lacks rebounding, and one of Vassell/Castle will have to defend a PF.

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    I'd probably give Castle the SF minutes you have assigned to Barnes, especially since Vassell will probably be playing more like 33 minutes a night. Love seeing the goose egg for Bran Ham. On paper it looks like the Spurs should trade Tre but he probably doesn't land you anyone good enough to be much of an upgrade over Sochan and Barnes at the PF nor Keldon at the three. Before CP3 came it was pretty obvious to have Tre play say 28 mpg at PG, Castle 12 mpg at PG and maybe 14 more at SG/SF, then Wesley 8mpg to see if he can become somebody. Really wish they'd just salary dump Branham since he doesn't deserve any minutes that should be going to Castle at the SG.
    On paper it seems like we have one guy too many, but I think my basic skeleton of a rotation allows you to adjust based on the hot hand. I do think Castle should progress closer to 26-28 mpg as the season moves on, and his minutes should be prioritized over pretty much everyone else in the lineup aside from Wemby and Devin. CP3 and Barnes are what they are, and it's not like any of these other guys are good enough to worry about prioritizing. They're just here until something better comes along.

    I did not dignify Branham with a courtesy zero. He should be a camp casualty tbh.

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    am i the only one that sees Mamu as the reserve 4? last year it was a hodgepodge of undersized guys like Osman, Keldon, or the attempts to try Barlow at PF which didnt work. Mamu very much doesnt work as a 5. really seems like a natural way to get him minutes while giving him opportunities to play alongside Vic, and those guys play with good chemistry

    should be the primary reserve for Sochan
    Johnson is the backup PF if this pre-season means anything. Jones and two of Castle/Branham/Wesley seem to be a lock. Maybe they're playing those guys because they don't have a backup center and feel pressed to play Mamu there. However, I feel like backup five would be easier for him to get than PF. If Pop does the right thing and benches Barnes for Castle, then Harrison is the backup PF.

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    On no planet would I ever compare Harrison Barnes to Sean Elliott. Sean's a two time all star who was a high end defender until his transplant and hit one of the most important shots in franchise history that broke the Blazers and basically clinched a le. Sean's not just some feelgood story making it back after kidney failure, he's a franchise legend and the only better SF the team has ever had was Kawhi.
    I love Sean, but I think you’re overweighting the Memorial Day Miracle too much. He was also traded and viewed as being too passive before then, though in fairness he was often injured.

    Harrison is also an NBA champ with a solid collegiate record. Also has Olympic gold etc

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    I love Sean, but I think you’re overweighting the Memorial Day Miracle too much. He was also traded and viewed as being too passive before then, though in fairness he was often injured.

    Harrison is also an NBA champ with a solid collegiate record. Also has Olympic gold etc
    Strange you would bring up college careers when trying to minimize Sean Elliott while hyping Barnes considering Barnes was just a good college player while Elliott was a Wooden Award winner.

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