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    ridiculous. wtf do you do with all this garbage? oh right, leverage those 2nds to max out cash into Holt's pockets every year.
    They are going to monopolize the draft and stash market and get a big fat unathletic serbian that passes well.

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    Watching these off season trades involving waived players & picks is like watching your sister learn how to parallel park.

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    They’re not profiting off these trades. They’re eating 5-7 million to acquire one pick and a time. They’re not selling them for that amount
    wut? re-read Bruno's post and link. Holt is chewing through every $ of the 7m he's allowed to eat

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    wut? re-read Bruno's post and link. Holt is chewing through every $ of the 7m he's allowed to eat
    ok, so if the annual cap is ~7 million, how much money did holt lose by trading for and waiving Reggie Bullock, Cam Payne, and Marcus Morris?

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    ok, so if the annual cap is ~7 million, how much money did holt lose by trading for and waiving Reggie Bullock, Cam Payne, and Marcus Morris?
    lose? you mean gain

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    lose? you mean gain
    no, i meant lose

    if you think Holt made money off of trading for and waiving players last summer, then i have a job for you in this banana stand


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    no, i meant lose

    if you think Holt made money off of trading for and waiving players last summer, then i have a job for you in this banana stand

    bend over (and hold your ankles), I'll give you a banana stand


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    bend over (and hold your ankles), I'll give you a banana stand

    awesome. so they received 7 mil in total for those transactions. now how much did they pay Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne?

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    awesome. so they received 7 mil in total for those transactions. now how much did they pay Reggie Bullock and Cam Payne?
    An amount that would allow them to reach the salary floor.

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    Cam Payne was paid 6.5mm alone

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    An amount that would allow them to reach the salary floor.
    last year's floor was 122 mil and the spurs ended up at a 140mil cap figure

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    Anyone arguing the amount of dead cap PATFO has been running since the DDR/LMA era doesn’t understand quick maffs.

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    last year's floor was 122 mil and the spurs ended up at a 140mil cap figure
    Then they accomplished the task of meeting the floor, thereby triggering the luxtax payer pot distribution check.

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    Then they accomplished the task of meeting the floor, thereby triggering the luxtax payer pot distribution check.
    they could have spent 122 mil and triggered the distribution check. they went up to 140. ive been plenty critical of some of the cheapskate tendencies of ownership and FO but acting like spending millions in these trades to acquire SRPs is a way for holt to "make" money is just ludicrous banana stand math

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    So:

    - Spurs got $1M for the #35 for #36 swap.

    - The $110K they got from Charlotte is to make the Devonte' Graham trade work cba wise.

    - It's unclear how much the $2M cover of McDaniels salary because the payment structure of his contract is unknown. It's also unclear if Kings could have given more cash because they already gave some cash to Bulls in the DDR S&T to cover Duarte salary.

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    kings signed mcdermott

    they moved mcdaniels so that they could sign Doug without going over the apron

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    So:

    - Spurs got $1M for the #35 for #36 swap.

    - The $110K they got from Charlotte is to make the Devonte' Graham trade work cba wise.

    - It's unclear how much the $2M cover of McDaniels salary because the payment structure of his contract is unknown. It's also unclear if Kings could have given more cash because they already gave some cash to Bulls in the DDR S&T to cover Duarte salary.
    holt getting 2 million to cover 4.7mil in salary as a way to make money


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    holt getting 2 million to cover 4.7mil in salary as a way to make money
    Yep, Spurs aren't making money with that trade. Up to 50% of a player's salary can be paid before the start of the season. This trade will cost Spurs between $370K and $2.74M.

    And while you can criticize some of Spurs FO moves since getting Wembanyama, I don't think one of these moves was made because the ownership was cheap. A potential cheapness of the ownership might hurt Spurs in the future with luxury tax issues, but it is quite a non-factor right now.

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    They just built a best in class practice campus, and are about to drop serious money on a new stadium. No one can accuse them of being cheap.

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    Do ya'll ever think the Spurs do these too as small favors to other teams when it doesn't hurt the Spurs not to and it makes the teams more willing to work with them in the future? Could be complete bull I've just always been curious if that had anything whatsoever to do with it. But I'm sure there are some front offices that don't want to help each other out.
    I think it’s a big part of it and why you see the Spurs do multiple deals with the same team (TOR, MIN, SAC most recently)

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    They just built a best in class practice campus, and are about to drop serious money on a new stadium. No one can accuse them of being cheap.
    Last I heard they were asking the City and County to foot most of the bill. Has that changed?

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    Last I heard they were asking the City and County to foot most of the bill. Has that changed?
    $240 million is serious money IMO.

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    $240 million is serious money IMO.
    Less than 1 year annual revenue.

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    Yep, Spurs aren't making money with that trade. Up to 50% of a player's salary can be paid before the start of the season. This trade will cost Spurs between $370K and $2.74M.

    And while you can criticize some of Spurs FO moves since getting Wembanyama, I don't think one of these moves was made because the ownership was cheap. A potential cheapness of the ownership might hurt Spurs in the future with luxury tax issues, but it is quite a non-factor right now.
    It's just a guess, but it could primarily be about building relationships for the future. well, they might not hand out those John Wick medallions you can use later to demand a service, but there might be something like "I owe you something". I also don't know about connections between Spurs and Kings (sure, there ist the Mike Brown - Pop friendship), but I can see McNair and Wright, both are the same age and have had a similar career path, see themselfs less as compe ors, but as potential allies, at least in some situations, when you need help from another team to make something work. McNair will be playing an important role in the NBA for the next, say, 25 years. they will inevitable cross paths many times in the future.
    Spurs will face the big moment in two years, when convincing Wemby to sign the extension will be the decisive event. it might take some major moves to build a future contender at that moment to keep Wemby in the house. stockpiling future picks as trade assets and some virtual debt coins might be a good strategy for that day.

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