Preseason Grades: Spurs at Heat - Oct. 15, 2024

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-spu...5-preseason-4/

[John B]

Thanks for the grades. 22 TO’s is all that struck to me. If not for the 52% shooting, the game would’ve been long decided. But I guess it’s the pre-season. I need to see more CP3 orchestrating more, finding opportunities for Wemby to score. I want to see more pick and roll, and diss to an open 3.

I like Kelton’s energy coming off the bench. Already he was aggressive as soon as he got in.

I like Castle’s strong finish to the basket. I thought he’s really advanced at attacking the rim with contact. He’s just going to get stronger.

I like Malaki’s efforts tonight. I think they made it a game towards the end. Malaki has a knack for scoring. But right now, Champagnie is way ahead of him.

Bassey was a traffic cone out there. I like Collins energy more.

You mentioned Jones, Johnson, Collins, Castle and Wesley as the 1st 5 to complete the 10 players rotation. You’re forgetting Champagnie is only covering for Devin at starting 2. Champ brings much needed scoring. That’s interesting who gets pushed out of that 10-players rotation. It’s a good problem.

[Pauleta14]

Too soon to worry about Wemby's total absence of evolution in is game?

Maybe he's just a bit banged up as Pop suggested, but he doesn't look good to me

[onechance87]

Too soon to worry about Wemby's total absence of evolution in is game?

Maybe he's just a bit banged up as Pop suggested, but he doesn't look good to me

Yea...still looks like he still trying to figure it out and dont really know what to do.Was hoping he would improve his shooting to have
sum type of scoring option cause posting up he seems to struggle with or avoid.

[Davidicus]

I unfortunately don’t have any paper trail, but I always thought Wemby might start overthinking things in season 2. It’s just natural, with any rookie season you’re so present because everything is so new. He’s smart enough to snap out of it soon though.

Castle continues to wow. You put him in and his athleticism, handles, footwork, and body awareness (to the rim) make his teammates look like G leaguers. Put him in coach.

[polandprzem]

Too soon to worry about Wemby's total absence of evolution in is game?

Maybe he's just a bit banged up as Pop suggested, but he doesn't look good to me

He looks pretty good tbh.

[polandprzem]

Good game for Sochan- hopefully this is going to be his breakthrough year. Looks better physically and position he is in suits him better. Still his hands are not there.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Too soon to worry about Wemby's total absence of evolution in is game?

Maybe he's just a bit banged up as Pop suggested, but he doesn't look good to me

if he continues to play with Jayson Tatum's shot selection, San Antonio might be ready to open a brickyard

[Pauleta14]

He looks pretty good tbh.

I'd have like to see a couple moves near the basket he'd have worked on, he himself admited he has to go straight at his move once he receives the ball for ex, rather than waiting and allowing to defense to position itself better.

He knows he has to spend more time in the paint and I don't see him being enthousiatic about it.

My question was rethorical of course it's early but I'm kinda disapointed to see the exact same Vic and usual choices/moves

[Pauleta14]

if he continues to play with Jayson Tatum's shot selection, San Antonio might be ready to open a brickyard

His skinny ass is going to be an issue. I like the bulk on the shoulders and arms, but hips and ass are key in post moves and I don't see any improvement in that area.

[Brazil]

improvement in ass and hips ? you want him to become a fatass ?

[John B]

The Admiral had like the skinniest hips when he was playing. And had a HOFer career with those hips

[Pauleta14]

improvement in ass and hips ? you want him to become a fatass ?

You don't need a fat ass but you need a solid core and hip mobility/strength

There are plenty of exercices to work on it, it usually shows on the glutes. area where Vic is flat as

[Pauleta14]

The Admiral had like the skinniest hips when he was playing. And had a HOFer career with those hips

Go watch pictures of him, he was a lot thicker and muscular than Vic in that area

I'm not talking about hip width

[John B]

Go watch pictures of him, he was a lot thicker and muscular than Vic in that area

I'm not talking about hip width

I’ll take your word for it

[polandprzem]

I'd have like to see a couple moves near the basket he'd have worked on, he himself admited he has to go straight at his move once he receives the ball for ex, rather than waiting and allowing to defense to position itself better.

He knows he has to spend more time in the paint and I don't see him being enthousiatic about it.

My question was rethorical of course it's early but I'm kinda disapointed to see the exact same Vic and usual choices/moves

Hey there is a thread about his physical attributes

And he played close to zero minutes. Pre season to him is vastly irrelevant as he had Olympics etc.

He do look way better this year then the last one. His gate is better he got stronger and this year not gonna be experiment at the PG position. He [plays just to shake some bball rust and IMO he still not ended his S&C cycle so he is gonna be bit slower then later in a season.

Place your worries about the game in January not in minor preseason minutes.

[Pauleta14]

Hey there is a thread about his physical attributes

And he played close to zero minutes. Pre season to him is vastly irrelevant as he had Olympics etc.

He do look way better this year then the last one. His gate is better he got stronger and this year not gonna be experiment at the PG position. He [plays just to shake some bball rust and IMO he still not ended his S&C cycle so he is gonna be bit slower then later in a season.

Place your worries about the game in January not in minor preseason minutes.

Yeah I'm probably tripping with these meaningless games

[Mr. Body]

It's apparently not uncommon for a star to have a step back in the second year. Hopefully we don't see that with Wemby.

Turnovers were ugly, ugly. I watched a Sacto game this week -- vs. Portland -- where they were just awful, seemingly bored, and TO'd like crazy. This game for the Spurs looked more like players not quite being on the same page. Miami is also a way step up over the Utah second string.

Surprisingly, of all the guys on the roster the one who seems to get his role the most right now is Keldon.

Collins looked pretty good. If his shot never comes back, that sucks, but he was moving and using space and all that pretty well.

Branham had a good game. If he can hit his shots, that would be great. I'm not too concerned yet. But his cutting and movement were good. Most important, he was in the right places on defense and staying in. I want him to affect the stat sheet beyond shots and he did. Even a steal and a block. But I don't know where he's going to get minutes.

[Mugen]

I'd much rather see Mamu get minutes over Wesley....

There's nothing that Blake adds that Castle already doesn't do off the bench, at a much higher level tbh. Mamu gives you so much needed shooting on a team with very, very little of it.

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby is fine. He definitely needs to be quicker with his decision making. But overall, he and the rest of the spurs did a good job of moving the ball to find the open man. It’s going to be an adjustment to play with the ball a little less in his hands this season. There’s a good chance it won’t look pretty for the first month or so of the season

[Mugen]

Wemby's turnovers come mostly from when he's parked 2 feet beyond the 3pt line and dribbling for 5 seconds.

When he gets the rock within 10ft, he's unguardable and his interior passing is much better.

He really, really needs that Embiid face up jumper. It shouldn't be so hard for a 7'4" as skilled as he is to get easy looks tbh.

[LeBowen]

The biggest issue with Wemby is that most of his touches are too far away from the basket.
Some of it is on his lack of strength, but most is on his teammates' inability to get him the ball.
Those few passes CP3 had against Utah wouldn't have been attempted by anyone else.

[z0sa]

Wemby needs to find his bread and butter move, and it's not shooting 3 pointers. Unfortunately, our lack of shooting once again looks like it will tank several of his possessions a game as they all start orbiting around him as soon as he has the ball inside the 3pt line. Unless he can somehow find some space, it's going to be some more struggling for him on the interior. If his 3 isn't falling, it's too easy to pack the paint on him and disrupt our Wemby-centric plays. Sure, guys like CP3 can still make plays happen, and we've got better cutting thus far this pre-season (especially from Sochan).

But he either needs to be able to break down players in isos or high post actions very quickly, or he's going to be meeting 3 defenders once again time after time...

[rankingtear]

The biggest issue with Wemby is that most of his touches are too far away from the basket.
Some of it is on his lack of strength, but most is on his teammates' inability to get him the ball.
Those few passes CP3 had against Utah wouldn't have been attempted by anyone else.

Batum is the best entry passer in the league and he still struggled to get deep post in the olympics.

[spurraider21]

Wemby's turnovers come mostly from when he's parked 2 feet beyond the 3pt line and dribbling for 5 seconds.

When he gets the rock within 10ft, he's unguardable and his interior passing is much better.

He really, really needs that Embiid face up jumper. It shouldn't be so hard for a 7'4" as skilled as he is to get easy looks tbh.

he can just rise up and shoot over guys the way KD does. doesnt need a little rocker step fade like embiid to get it off tbh