Who will WIN the 2024 Presidential Election? (regardless of who you want to win)

[ChumpDumper]

Trump's going to win.

Insecure males and the women who think it will make their lives easier.

[baseline bum]

Today's democrats are not looking out for the white working class union voter on main street who struggles to pay bills, seniors needing social security and medicare, and taxing the rich. Today's dems are not populist. Today's dems are very crony crapitalist and elitist and funnel billions and trillions through the big majority-jewish asset managers so the big bosses can get richer and the average citizen gets poorer through high inflation and consumption costs of basic necessities like gas and groceries due to high logistical costs and they use "muh save the planet" as the false-flag excuse.

Today's Democrats put a $2000 a year out of pocket cap on drug prices seniors pay in Medicare Part D and today's Democrats finally made moves to have Medicare negotiate prices on ten drugs. Today's Democrats also capped insulin at $35 a month for people on Medicare. It's a far cry from a sane single payer system that so much of the rest of the rich world has figured out is the most effective solution both on quality and price since it's only for seniors but it's way more than the GOP offers so get the out of here acting like Trump would do anything for the people here. ROFL bringing up populism while simping for a billionaire whose only legislation passed was a tax cut for himself and the rest of the American oligarchy. It's the funniest in the world seeing his nazi base glorify him for being tough on illegal immigration when he still hires illegals. It's just pure racism, making life tier for illegal immigrants while still wanting to hire them to undercut American labor. Blaming inflation on non-existent steps to curb global warming instead of corporate price gouging and cartels is some ignorant too.

[pgardn]

What do you mean by democrat though? Like Mondale, Dukakis, or even Slick Willie?

Today's democrats are not looking out for the white working class union voter on main street who struggles to pay bills, seniors needing social security and medicare, and taxing the rich. Today's dems are not populist. Today's dems are very crony crapitalist and elitist and funnel billions and trillions through the big majority-jewish asset managers so the big bosses can get richer and the average citizen gets poorer through high inflation and consumption costs of basic necessities like gas and groceries due to high logistical costs and they use "muh save the planet" as the false-flag excuse.





The thing is, in 2016 people weren't talking about MI or (especially) WI being swing states. They were talking about the core swing states being FL/NC/OH (all must win for Trump but not Hillary) with an outside shot of a very narrow pathway for Trump through pulling off either New Hampshire AND Nevada or Colorado with a very slim outside shot at Pennsylvania. They were, of course, all wrong. But MI and WI weren't in the picture and were consistently polling Hilldawg +8 or better all the way up through e-day.


The immigrants illegally on social security and young and able U.S. citizen workers who shouldn't be on SS, have depleted SS, not Trump or GOP policy.


Agreed. whether you argue whether it might "stimulate the economy" or not, it sets a horrid precedent and is horridly unfair for those who paid their way through school or went on meritorious scholarships.


So, openly supporting terrorist activity, eh? Do us all a favor and never mention Jan. 6, 2021 again.

This entire retort is a joke.

Starting with the first paragraph. Like Republicans are looking out for anything? The Republicans are a party of one man''s whimsical fkn old demented personality.

Save muh planet? You want to swim in your own apparently and dont see the consequences. Do you have any clue how much we are paying right now for our stupidity with our own air and water?

There is so much ignorance...
There are no real Republicans anymore, there are cultists of which you are a part of.
Lies about immigration. Neither party has made an attempt to really tackle the problem just like Health Care.
One party wants government out of our lives yet enacts the strictest government rules on personal freedom.
Basic Civil Rights would never get a whiff of a chance under this new cult.
" Oh but I get to say anything I want even if I ask for help with a lynching and I can in the backdoor stream that leads to my neighbors downstream" These are Republican ideas of rights.
The people I am surrounded by can go to , muh rights.

And you dare chant USA... You have not a clue about basic societies functioning and how this even came about. "Into the woods, this is my land; stay off it and see you later, only if you step foot near me. Dont"
I know you are an outcast but at least be serious...

[Blake]

Oh boy, ya'll are gonna cry like babies if Trump wins.

Okay it, long term political strategy, I'm changing my mind and hoping for a Trump win. If it happens, I'll probably get dabeetus from eating so much popcorn but it'll be worth it.

Lol "changing your mind" as if you weren't voting Trump from day 1

[Blake]

I hope the nation riots and gets burned to the ground if he wins the electoral college.

Not enough January 6 maga style rioters on the left

[Winehole23]

Not enough January 6 maga style rioters on the left

it's true: the left isn't passionate enough to kill people and try to knock over the US government.

not a problem on the right, though.

[SnakeBoy]

I hope the nation riots and gets burned to the ground if he wins the electoral college.

Me too. Won't be the nation libs burn just their own ty blue districts same as they always do. It's a joy to watch libs on themselves cuz muh rights

[SnakeBoy]

Trump ran a great campaign in 2016, hitting Hillary from the left at Bannon's direction on things like healthcare and taxes while she completely ignored policy and ran on him being a piece of . They were obviously all lies but they fooled people like SnakeBoy who was insistent Trump would govern as a Democrat.

For the most part he did. With the notable exception of the court appointments, kept his word on that. He's moved the GOP left and Dems are moving right in response. It's fascinating to watch a realignment play out in real time. Strange you are moving right along with the Dems considering how much you complain about the party moving right. I guess the old saying is correct... libs do what libs do.

[SnakeBoy]

Lol "changing your mind" as if you weren't voting Trump from day 1

I said hoping not voting. Read the posts for context.

[ChumpDumper]

the boiling resentment in every snacks post

[SnakeBoy]

the boiling resentment in every snacks post

I don't resent you being a lib I'm glad. Makes for win/win elections from my perspective. We've had this conversation already.

[ChumpDumper]

We've seen your boiling resentment already.

[SnakeBoy]

We've seen your boiling resentment already.

You're gonna cry like a baby if Trump wins

[Millennial_Messiah]

it's true: the left isn't passionate enough to kill people and try to knock over the US government.

not a problem on the right, though.

Not enough January 6 maga style rioters on the left

Summer 2020.

Today's Democrats put a $2000 a year out of pocket cap on drug prices seniors pay in Medicare Part D and today's Democrats finally made moves to have Medicare negotiate prices on ten drugs. Today's Democrats also capped insulin at $35 a month for people on Medicare. It's a far cry from a sane single payer system that so much of the rest of the rich world has figured out is the most effective solution both on quality and price since it's only for seniors but it's way more than the GOP offers so get the out of here acting like Trump would do anything for the people here. ROFL bringing up populism while simping for a billionaire whose only legislation passed was a tax cut for himself and the rest of the American oligarchy. It's the funniest in the world seeing his nazi base glorify him for being tough on illegal immigration when he still hires illegals. It's just pure racism, making life tier for illegal immigrants while still wanting to hire them to undercut American labor. Blaming inflation on non-existent steps to curb global warming instead of corporate price gouging and cartels is some ignorant too.

Obamacare made insurance companies and doctors richer and the average US Citizen poorer. It's undeniable.


Realistically they should axe Medicaid and install Medicare for All with a $500-1000 deductible and individual max out of pocket of $2,000 per year (per individual) with copays of $20/40 ish for PCP and specialist, 20%ish co-insurance after deductible up to max out of pocket.

I don't believe everything should be 100% free, that would clog up the medical systems with schmucks and hoboes and people with paper cuts. Once you meet the $2,000 max out of pocket, then yes everything should be free for the remainder of calendar year.

I do believe "Medicare Part D" should be abolished and prescription drugs should be $10/20 copay for generics (30/90 day) & should count towards the individual $2,000 max out of pocket as part of the calendar year medical plan, rather than being a separate charge.

Under my policy plan, it doesn't matter how much insulin or any specific drug or procedure costs, because no matter what each individual person is only responsible for no more than $2,000 per year for all official medical care including inpatient, outpatient, imaging, office visits, and prescriptions.

[baseline bum]

For the most part he did. With the notable exception of the court appointments, kept his word on that. He's moved the GOP left and Dems are moving right in response. It's fascinating to watch a realignment play out in real time. Strange you are moving right along with the Dems considering how much you complain about the party moving right. I guess the old saying is correct... libs do what libs do.

How has Trump moved the GOP to the left? Making them an unmistakable blood and soil nazi party? Taking away women's right to abortion in half the nation? Court appointments straight out of the Heritage Foundation recommendations is easily the most consequential thing Trump has done. Defunding Social Security? Project 2025? Don't know where you get that I'm moving right just because I hate Trump more than Harris and Biden. The only non-right wing thing he has done is tariffs on China which would have been great back in 1992 to save our manufacturing base but the horse is long out of the barn and is two towns over now so too late to close that door.

[baseline bum]

Obamacare made insurance companies and doctors richer and the average US Citizen poorer. It's undeniable.

ACA is ty no doubt, especially after Lieberman and likely a few other Democrat senators who wanted him to be their lighting rod killed the public option, but that's a lie saying ACA is why healthcare costs have spiraled out of control when it's a long term trend that started blowing up to around the turn of the century before anyone knew who the magic negro was.

[hater]

Me too. Won't be the nation libs burn just their own ty blue districts same as they always do. It's a joy to watch libs on themselves cuz muh rights

Watching the BLM riots online was fun as

It was basically modern Circus Maximus

I still remember a few legendary fatalities. Like when that old man was pushed by the cops and broke the back of his head into pieces. Or when BLM attacked a store owner and bashed his head like a watermelon

BLM v 2.0 would be fun imo

[baseline bum]

Me too. Won't be the nation libs burn just their own ty blue districts same as they always do. It's a joy to watch libs on themselves cuz muh rights

LOL thinking the rioters are liberals. Also always cracks me up when white people say 'why are those niggers burning down their own community' like it's their community when they're renting from some corporate landlord and the neighborhood is filled with Targets and Walmarts who take money out of the community while paying starvation wages.

[Winehole23]

Boogaloo boy set the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct on fire -- not libs

[ChumpDumper]

You're gonna cry like a baby if Trump wins

Nah, I've seen people like you all my life.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL thinking the rioters are liberals. Also always cracks me up when white people say 'why are those niggers burning down their own community' like it's their community when they're renting from some corporate landlord and the neighborhood is filled with Targets and Walmarts who take money out of the community while paying starvation wages.

Dude, Mookie threw that trash can through Sal's window.

[baseline bum]

Boogaloo boy set the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct on fire -- not libs

Boogaloo Boy from Boerne

[Leetonidas]

Watching the BLM riots online was fun as

It was basically modern Circus Maximus

I still remember a few legendary fatalities. Like when that old man was pushed by the cops and broke the back of his head into pieces. Or when BLM attacked a store owner and bashed his head like a watermelon

BLM v 2.0 would be fun imo

Seek help

[LkrFan]

When Rump is losing FauxNoose

[Chucho]

Kamala Harris has this in the bag. With the Feds deliberately being slow, negligent and nefarious in doling out support and aid to the Mid Atlantic and South Atlantic hurricane crises zones to purposely keep the Carolinas and Florida electoral votes away from Trump and the fact Trump is an evolving human -show, there's no way she can lose this.


Really hard to not like Kamala at this point in the race. She's going to be a great wartime leader and has a fully expendable generation with little to no real life experience yet enough volume from which to draft soldiers from. Crime will finally be looked at under the proper lenses again and many a young minority criminal will be filling private penitentiaries, giving Big Corporate's customers American goods at fair prices and securing the inner cities and ghettos of Murica a little bit more.

She's got my vote.