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    Barring major injuries or a nonsensical Trae Young trade, I don't see the Hawks not reaching at least a play-in spot.
    They'll reach it because there's no way for them to be worse than Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Raptors and Pistons.
    There's also Charlotte that should be worse, but could surprise.
    As things stand now, both Hawks and Hornets should be making the play-in, but not the playoffs because the gap between top8 and them is just too big.
    Obviously assuming there are no injuries, which is also not that likely.

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    They'll reach it because there's no way for them to be worse than Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Raptors and Pistons.
    There's also Charlotte that should be worse, but could surprise.
    Exactly. And they won't or at least shouldn't trade away Trae this season, because, as we all know, they don't have their own pick in the 2025 draft.

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    They'll reach it because there's no way for them to be worse than Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Raptors and Pistons.
    There's also Charlotte that should be worse, but could surprise.
    As things stand now, both Hawks and Hornets should be making the play-in, but not the playoffs because the gap between top8 and them is just too big.
    Obviously assuming there are no injuries, which is also not that likely.
    Right. They were a play-in team this last year with their 36-46 record, where they got badly beat by a bad Chicago team.

    I don't see them being worse than Detroit, Brooklyn, Washington, Charlotte, Portland and, if they actually tank, Utah. Toronto and I think Chicago should be better.

    Way the NBA playoffs are structured seems to benefit the WC over time, as good WC teams don't make the playoffs and get into the lottery while bad EC don't make the lottery because they get into the playoffs.

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    Exactly. And they won't or at least shouldn't trade away Trae this season, because, as we all know, they don't have their own pick in the 2025 draft.
    That and I legit don't think anyone wants Trae Young.

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    We have to see how it comes together for ATL. They definitely didnt net add talent (losing Dejounte) but they may have gotten better overall and style of play wise. But they are on thin ice….

    Last season Dejounte could bail them out if Trae missed time; any sort of long injury to Trae really puts them in a precarious situation

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    That and I legit don't think anyone wants Trae Young.
    LA does

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    Which LA ? Lakers ? Atlanta have their 2025 pick

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    Barring major injuries or a nonsensical Trae Young trade, I don't see the Hawks not reaching at least a play-in spot.
    Or, if he misses close to 30 games again, or is pissed about being shopped for two years.

    ATL’s win % has been in a 4 year steady decline.

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    Lakers only won 33 games 3 years ago during an injury filled season for Lebron (missed 26) and Davis (missed 42)

    Now with an elderly Lebron with no time off in the summer and an older Davis?

    I wouldn't be too confident of the Lakers record this season

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    Excited for the Tank-A-thon odds to start moving!

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    Or, if he misses close to 30 games again, or is pissed about being shopped for two years.

    ATL’s win % has been in a 4 year steady decline.
    I'm not saying that the Hawks will be particularly good. But if things go close to "normal" this season, there simply will be enough worse teams in the East for the Hawks to reach the play-in almost by default.

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    It would be amazing to see a player increase his scoring average by nearly 11ppg without a increase in minutes or touches

    Note to the folks on this board who apparently still don’t understand how basketball works: you generally want to increase the playing time and usage of your most efficient players. I get how this concept is foreign to folks who only watch the Spurs, where Popovich likes to force feed Branmeh minutes down our throats.
    no he has bad character. He switched high schools, can‘t you see it. Let‘s give Jeremy a 200 million $ extension cause he speaks polish and shares his Nachos with Wemby

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    no he has bad character. He switched high schools, can‘t you see it. Let‘s give Jeremy a 200 million $ extension cause he speaks polish and shares his Nachos with Wemby
    haha leave gramps alone you bully!

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    no he has bad character. He switched high schools, can‘t you see it. Let‘s give Jeremy a 200 million $ extension cause he speaks polish and shares his Nachos with Wemby
    The best way to make up for missing out on Jalen Smith is to max out Sochan

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    Nobody was really talking about Jalen Johnson until last year after he showed something, then all of a sudden the FO is trash because how could they not have seen it three years ago when spurstalk can see it now?

    I mean, people are melting down over Edey after he put up 27 pts in a preseason game, talking about how the FO should have drafted him instead of punting the pick, then nobody said anything after he scored 7 points in a preseason as if they never blew a load over him three days ago.

    just incredible.

    I wouldn’t mind Jalen Johnson over primo, because at this point I would prefer a pair of new underwear over him but cmon guys, don’t flex like you knew when it was obvious you didn’t.

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    The best way to make up for missing out on Jalen Smith is to max out Sochan
    Said no one ever.

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    Nobody was really talking about Jalen Johnson until last year after he showed something, then all of a sudden the FO is trash because how could they not have seen it three years ago when spurstalk can see it now?

    I mean, people are melting down over Edey after he put up 27 pts in a preseason game, talking about how the FO should have drafted him instead of punting the pick, then nobody said anything after he scored 7 points in a preseason as if they never blew a load over him three days ago.

    just incredible.

    I wouldn’t mind Jalen Johnson over primo, because at this point I would prefer a pair of new underwear over him but cmon guys, don’t flex like you knew when it was obvious you didn’t.
    Jalen Johnson straight up quit on his college basketball team, Duke, under Coach K. Just... left.

    Most of his NBA outcomes were bust. Atlanta has got something out of him, good for them.

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    Raptors come out the gates swinging for #1 draft pick

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    Raptors come out the gates swinging for #1 draft pick
    Jazz looking like they want a piece of that action too. The Great White Lineup of Lauri-Cooper-Kessler might be too enticing for them to pass up.

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    Detroit actually looked pretty good. Not there yet nearly but they'll get some teams. Didn't watch the Raps but sounds like they were dreadful.

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    It is way early but latest Tankathon mocks has us picking 8, 17, and 18.

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    I went into this season optimistic we could push for the play-in AND secure a lottery pick via an ATL flame out but I now fully endorse #TakeItInThePooperForCooper #TakeItInTheFaceForAce

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    I went into this season optimistic we could push for the play-in AND secure a lottery pick via an ATL flame out but I now fully endorse #TakeItInThePooperForCooper #TakeItInTheFaceForAce
    After one game? Minus our starting 2 guard?

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    After one game? Minus our starting 2 guard?
    Yes. Kyrie and Luka are freakish talent; throw in a confident Klay and losing last night was inevitable but without proper talent and poor coaching Wemby will flounder like he did last night. Repeatedly. Also, Champ has basically replaced Dev’s skillset from my vantage point.

    Lets focus on getting decent talent. Adding another young, top tier talent to a Wemby/Castle core is my preferred move.

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    It is way early but latest Tankathon mocks has us picking 8, 17, and 18.
    I did number 1 and 2 spot the other day . I cannot image the rest of the NBA if that happens

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