GOP's Plan B: spoiling the election

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https://x.com/AnthonyMKreis/status/1840723554083463218

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Amazing how the noncitizen voter emergency evaporated *instantly* upon Republicans learning their voters would be most affected by the proposed remedy.

I could come up again post-election, if Trump loses again, as an alleged election irregularity.

"Illegals voted"

On Sept. 17, Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, also a Republican, discovered that a glitch in Arizona’s driver’s license database caused nearly 100,000 registered voters not to meet the proof of citizenship requirements under the state’s recently revised election laws. Richer filed an emergency pe ion to the Arizona Supreme Court seeking to declare them ineligible to vote in state elections. But the next day, Toma and Petersonsuddenly opposed the disenfranchisement. That was after it became clear that mostly Republican voters would be affected.

Toma and Petersen’s stance is unusual because for the past two years they have defended, and continue to defend, voter ID laws when the impact of invalidated voter registrations, while unknown, likely involves traditionally Democratic cons uencies such as students and members of indigenous communities. For its part, the Arizona Republican Party submitted a legal brief opposing Richer’s efforts to enforce the ID laws and explicitly recognized that their cons uents “would be disproportionately affected” by the mass disenfranchisement from the database glitch. The state Republicans’ sudden reversal caught little public attention outside the local press, with the Arizona Republic first running the story. Now, Just Security obtained the never-before-published data showing the political affiliations of the registered voters impacted by the glitch.

Surprise Reversal in Arizona GOP ‘Noncitizen’ Voting Litigation (justsecurity.org)

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on Sept. 17, Richer, the Maricopa County Recorder, told state’s highest court that a government database glitch may have disenfranchised Arizonans who got their licenses before October 1996. In an email attached to his lawsuit, Richer even informed Arizona’s Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs and Fontes: “I know that the vast majority of these voters are United States citizens who can provide do ented proof of citizenship.”

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[hater]

If Democrats use this plan B you es wont bat an eye. Amirite?

[ChumpDumper]

If Democrats use this plan B you es wont bat an eye. Amirite?

Tell us how Democrats use this plan B in your fever dream.

Be specific.

[Winehole23]

If Democrats use this plan B you es wont bat an eye. Amirite?

deciding elections on the basis of anything other than bona fide election returns is bonkers and facially anti-democratic. it's bad no matter who does it.

if you cry fraud, you better have evidence. in 2020, Trump had none and he knew it.

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https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status...02276299178383

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"my spidey-sense cancels your vote"

https://x.com/DC_DeWitt/status/1842153943725424946

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I never any heard any suitable explanation for this either: namely, Trumplandia challenging the rigged election only at top of the ticket in 2020. Kari Lake was an outlier.

"But riddle me this, Republicans," Steele, who served as RNC chair from 2009 to 2011, continued. "How do you corrupt the top of the ticket without corrupting the rest of the ballot? Because that means a lot of your behinds shouldn't be in Congress right now and shouldn't be in the Senate because of that unfair, corrupt, rigged election."

link

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real

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legal pretext for post-election legal challenge: waiting too long to purge the voter rolls (there's a federal law that forbids it happening too close to an election, so that valid voters have time to cure their voter registration), then claiming that federal law is undermining election security and state sovereignty.

https://x.com/srl/status/1844849215773508091

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Republican contempt for adverse legal outcomes being what it is, the trope of public officials construing ministerial duties as discretionary is likely to recur.

https://x.com/marceelias/status/1846170851843920041

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Gonna go ahead and prebunk this one.

There are a lot of reasons the number of registered voters in a state can be larger than the number of voting age citizens as determined by the US Census, starting with the rat ed 2020 Census, which resulted in undercounts.

https://x.com/BarbByrum/status/1847380620324086260

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Holding up an election because you're a sore loser with a bad faith objection to the process is rightly prosecuted as a crime.

https://x.com/carlquintanilla/status...84955414450189

[CosmicCowboy]

In normal democracies, the winner of the popular vote wins

We are a Cons utional Republic, not a democracy.

[benefactor]

We are a Cons utional Republic, not a democracy.

You misspelled oligarchy

[Winehole23]

We are a Cons utional Republic, not a democracy.

But isn't a cons utional republic a kind of democracy, profe?

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The Washoe County, NV peeps in the pic below thought the 2020 election was rigged.

It would be surprising not to see this sort of protest this come up again this year.

When Trump loses the popular election next month, the job of spoiling the election and lobbying the legislatures will begin in earnest.

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Supposing Trump successfully lobbies compliant state legislatures to seat Trump electors post-election day, presumably that is a-ok and no problem in our old timey representative republic.

States overriding the popular vote would superficially appear to be consistent with the US Cons ution.

What's the problem here?

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Someone burned a ballot box in Washington

https://x.com/KATUNews/status/1850906729879630301

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political violence could screw up the election

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we're up two ballot drop box arsons in swing House districts and counting...

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a possible assist to Trump by SCOTUS via the exotic independent state legislature theory, within days of the election

Roberts’s majority opinion in Moore, however, included a cryptic line creating an exception to the rule that state courts have the final word on questions of state law. “[S]tate courts,” Roberts wrote, “may not transgress the ordinary bounds of judicial review such that they arrogate to themselves the power vested in state legislatures to regulate federal elections.” Moore, however, did not explain what, exactly, it means to “transgress the ordinary bounds of judicial review.”

As a practical matter, that means that Moore gave the US Supreme Court an unprecedented new power to overrule state election law decisions that at least five justices don’t like. It also means that Moore shifted a great deal of authority to the Republican Party — Republicans have a 6-3 majority on the US Supreme Court and Moore means that any five of these Republicans can reverse a state court decision that benefits Democrats.

The question in Genser is whether the Republican justices will use this self-given power, for the first time, to give Donald Trump an unfair advantage in Pennsylvania.

The new Supreme Court case that could change the winner of the presidential election | Vox