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    We'll definitely be able to make a run, but the question is will it be worth it with CBA in it's current state?
    Getting another max player when Wemby's extension kicks in would put us in a bad situation. That other star would have to be worth the money they're getting and not and most all-stars aren't.

    For example, yesterday there was a report of Fox rejecting to sign an extension now because he'll be eligible for 345/5 deal next summer if he makes all-NBA this season.
    Good player, but nowhere near worth supermax.

    With Wemby guaranteed to be the best player in the league, we'll be in a huge advantage since superteams have been dealt with and knowing PATFO they won't waste cap space on an overpaid second option.
    We can just hope Devin takes the next step and Castle becomes Jrue 2.0, then we got ourselves Bucks 2.0 at home. With two more FRPs this year.
    And plenty more FRPs to trade for elite role players.

    If Castle/Devin/'25 FRP/Wemby is the core, with Jeremy and some more pieces being useful off the bench, then trading 2 FRPs for a great role player on team-friendly deal wouldn't be an issue with so many picks available.
    And very few teams have FRPs to trade, meaning ours will be even more valuable.
    That Fox extension has to be terrifying for Sacramento. It's nuts. Also, might be added, Klutch. Here is where things either bend or break, with teams denying those gargantuan extensions at risk of grumpy players/agents, because who else is going to pay them? It's the Brandon Ingram thing all over again, and we're going to see it a lot. The CBA is trying to create a healthier ecosystem but I don't think it will.

    As for backup bigs, Edey doesn't seem like the right fit. Sure, it'd be great to have a player like him, but for cheaper. Wembanyama is so unique, it's hard to know what kind of bigs work next to him. Maybe a Brook Lopez type, who can hit lots of threes, but even this may not work. Then there are Sarr/Kal'el Ware types (assuming they're good), swift shotblockers who can potentially stretch the floor. But then you need size just straight off the bench.

    Collins is the right type. If he could get back on track, that would be great.

    This is why they may target guards who can rebound defensively and have strength to at least bang around. Castle fits that bill, at least for one of them. He was laying his body against Kessler on switches pretty well.

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    If Wesley’s trajectory is anything like the first 3 games of pre season, Dilly is simply extraneous (to our current roster).

    I’d rather speed in the open court (the ultimate weapon in basketball is the fast break IMHO) than relatively low efficiency work in the halfcourt. Castle also looks considerably more robust overall so we just wouldn’t be able to develop him well. Ot is what it is - I really liked him at 8 but we got plenty of consolation prizes to root for this season.

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    As for backup bigs, Edey doesn't seem like the right fit. Sure, it'd be great to have a player like him, but for cheaper. Wembanyama is so unique, it's hard to know what kind of bigs work next to him. Maybe a Brook Lopez type, who can hit lots of threes, but even this may not work. Then there are Sarr/Kal'el Ware types (assuming they're good), swift shotblockers who can potentially stretch the floor. But then you need size just straight off the bench.
    Imo, it's really hard to find stretch bigs who are also positive rim protectors. You either draft one or get an overpaid veteran late in his career.
    Everyone else with that skillset is a starter.

    Collins is the right type. If he could get back on track, that would be great.
    He's a good offensive player, but I'd honestly prefer a rim-running rim protector. Bassey was supposed to be one before his knees decided to fall apart.

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    We'll definitely be able to make a run, but the question is will it be worth it with CBA in it's current state?
    Getting another max player when Wemby's extension kicks in would put us in a bad situation. That other star would have to be worth the money they're getting and not and most all-stars aren't.

    For example, yesterday there was a report of Fox rejecting to sign an extension now because he'll be eligible for 345/5 deal next summer if he makes all-NBA this season.
    Good player, but nowhere near worth supermax.

    With Wemby guaranteed to be the best player in the league, we'll be in a huge advantage since superteams have been dealt with and knowing PATFO they won't waste cap space on an overpaid second option.
    We can just hope Devin takes the next step and Castle becomes Jrue 2.0, then we got ourselves Bucks 2.0 at home. With two more FRPs this year.
    And plenty more FRPs to trade for elite role players.

    If Castle/Devin/'25 FRP/Wemby is the core, with Jeremy and some more pieces being useful off the bench, then trading 2 FRPs for a great role player on team-friendly deal wouldn't be an issue with so many picks available.
    And very few teams have FRPs to trade, meaning ours will be even more valuable.
    Ok but say this is true, we can still use those picks if we want to OR make trades that will make the team better (trade up in future drafts, trade for non max players, etc.).

    You see teams like OKC right now are still landing really talented players in the draft and they're joining an already stacked team.

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    Relistically in the next 5 years or so there is going to be a major superstar at some point that wants out. I'm sure the Spurs FO is thinking ok by then Wemby will hopefully be a top 3 player or the best player in the league and we trade the house 5+ picks and whatever players for whatever big superstar it is. If Dillingham really becomes as good as prime Kyrie then maybe he should've been the pick to invest in (but then he'd also go #1 in every redraft and pretty much everyone was at least somewhat wrong about him.) But the odds are we'll be able to make a run at someone who is a top 10-20 player in the league to put next to Wemby.
    Hopefully it's anyone but Victor Wembanyama.

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    ^ Pop considered a superstar now? Maybe he will want out?

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    The Spurs look like they're switching a ton. Having players with good size and defensive a en are what works in that kind of scheme.

    Wesley is a really promising open court defender, but he got bulldozed by a strong Isaiah Collier last game on one possession. (Collier didn't play again, iirc, not sure what was up there.) Dillingham would be significantly worse. The Spurs just can't have someone get picked on in the defensive rotation.

    I'm going to keep my eye on Cody Williams. If he plays with some urgency and lack of lethargy, he could be a good multi-use player. He didn't show those things in college. Buzelis's shooting I think is never getting fixed.

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    So is Dilly getting DNPs to start the season or is he injured?

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    So is Dilly getting DNPs to start the season or is he injured?
    They decided to play DiVencenzo as the backup point guard after they made the Towns trade, both because of trusting vets over a rookie but it keeps DiVencenzo from cannibalizing the minutes of Alexander-Walker and McDaniels.

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    They decided to play DiVencenzo as the backup point guard after they made the Towns trade, both because of trusting vets over a rookie but it keeps DiVencenzo from cannibalizing the minutes of Alexander-Walker and McDaniels.
    Weird to trade all the way up to 8 and not play the guy.

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    Weird to trade all the way up to 8 and not play the guy.
    There was months in between the 2 trades. They didn't expect they could get anyone else to be a ball handler

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    All of that wailing and gnashing of teeth, and the er isn’t even in the rotation for Minny.

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    All of that wailing and gnashing of teeth, and the er isn’t even in the rotation for Minny.
    Minnesota has the luxury of bringing their rookie along slowly. They are a compe ive team with championship aspriations.

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    Minnesota has the luxury of bringing their rookie along slowly. They are a compe ive team with championship aspriations.
    ...and we're a team where the only player who can drive into the paint is Blake Wesley. Nah, we're fine!

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    ...and we're a team where the only player who can drive into the paint is Blake Wesley. Nah, we're fine!
    Haha I remain very intrigued by Wesley’s skill set given his quick first step, length and defensive ability. Dilly will eventually become an automatic bucket for years to come though. Him playing behind Conley and Donte was always a given and will only make him better.

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    Break out the lube, Dillingham ball lickers, your savior is on the court

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    Rob squad gets a sighting of Dilly at the FBC.

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    Damn, didn’t realize these were his first NBA minutes. His outlook changed so much the moment of the KAT trade.

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    Damn, didn’t realize these were his first NBA minutes. His outlook changed so much the moment of the KAT trade.
    There's a reason why this rookie class is universally known as being ing awful. Even Castle needs a ton of work. The people seething and frothing at the mouth, thinking he'd be a game changer this year, is beyond hilarious.

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    Dilly seems to have gotten bigger not looking like a stick next to CP3

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    Damn, didn’t realize these were his first NBA minutes. His outlook changed so much the moment of the KAT trade.
    Yeah, if they make the KAT trade any time between the deadline and the draft, Spurs probably draft at #8. Once they got DiVi, he was going to be chained to the bench.

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    Spurs fans crying over him

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    There's a reason why this rookie class is universally known as being ing awful. Even Castle needs a ton of work. The people seething and frothing at the mouth, thinking he'd be a game changer this year, is beyond hilarious.
    TBH I was quite pissed seeing Branham playing PG over Castle in the third, but thankfully Mitch pulled the plug after two disastrous possessions of Branham at point and Castle came in and steadied the ship. The old man would have let the Spurs blow their entire 15 point lead first.

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    There's a reason why this rookie class is universally known as being ing awful. Even Castle needs a ton of work. The people seething and frothing at the mouth, thinking he'd be a game changer this year, is beyond hilarious.
    Yeah, going crazy and ranting about trading out of a historically bad draft - for a guy that is at best a poor man's Jeff Teague (who was himself a poor man's Tony Parker, IMO) - is par for the course in these parts.

    I do agree that trading out for a pick (or pick swap) so far in the future is questionable, but you have to factor in all the picks they are still owed from Charlotte, Atlanta and I believe Chicago.

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    TBH I was quite pissed seeing Branham playing PG over Castle in the third, but thankfully Mitch pulled the plug after two disastrous possessions of Branham at point and Castle came in and steadied the ship. The old man would have let the Spurs blow their entire 15 point lead first.
    Nah, Pop learned that lesson last season when he made the mistake of giving Branham PG duties. That's why Wesley was given back up PG duties to close out last season. He has some secondary ball handling skills and chops to play emergency PG, still.

    Unfortunately, his piss poor offense and outside shooting is gonna have him glued to the bench for awhile.

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