Coach Pop Takes us to church this Sunday- please kneel.

[Pauleta14]

You're the one talking about how you're against the cost (but not the cost, whatever that means) of supporting Ukraine against Russia. The alternative is appeasement. What other option do you see? I suppose there is the US and NATO engaging in an all-out invasion of Russia... but I don't think that will go too well for anyone.

I'm not american and don't have a horse in the race, my position is more in terms of impact the US and the future administration will have on the world.

As for the Ukrainian and Israeli conflicts, I'm not here saying I know what to do etc but I know that one party is currently A LOT MORE under the imfluence of the "military/war" lobby than the other. You know how much lobbists are the real puppeteers.

My country has the same problems but maybe worst bc we don't have as strong of a consi ution as yours and France has been lead by lobbists for years now. Macron was one of them and doesn't come from a political background

Dpn't tell me Kamala inspires hope and peace to you, she'll be played left and right

[scott]

I'm not american and don't have a horse in the race, my position is more in terms of impact the US and the future administration will have on the world.

As for the Ukrainian and Israeli conflicts, I'm not here saying I know what to do etc but I know that one party is currently A LOT MORE under the imfluence of the "military/war" lobby than the other. You know how much lobbists are the real puppeteers.

My country has the same problems but maybe worst bc we don't have as strong of a consi ution as yours and France has been lead by lobbists for years now. Macron was one of them and doesn't come from a political background

Dpn't tell me Kamala inspires hope and peace to you, she'll be played left and right

I agree disagree. I think the Ukraine conflict is one of the "easiest" in terms of taking a side. You're either with Ukraine or you're with appeasement of a dictator engaged in an eastern European land-grab in an attempt to restore what Russia views as "theirs" in the former USSR. It's a pretty easy choice for me.

Israel is a much more complicated matter where, in the US, there seems to only be two extreme sides when in reality it's a much more complicated and nuanced situation that neither side wants to budge on. I see these things far less driven by the "war lobby" than previous conflicts we've been involved in (like Iraq, for example).

You can say one party is a lot more under the influence of the military/war lobby than the other... but the other is clearly under the influence (all the way down to being flat out paid by them) by Pro-Russia interests. You have right wing commentators quite literally being paid by Russia and getting fed talking points.

As for Kamala being played... maybe we can forecast that, but we've already seen and experienced how Trump gets played by other world leaders, specifically our adversaries. The Trump/Putin press conference will go down in history as the most glaring example of American cowardice I've ever seen.

[LeBowen]

Tbh, in 2024 Democrats are just your run of the mill corrupted, semi-incompetent politicians.
Republicans have turned into pure evil and a mockery of everything right wing values stand for. Current GOP absolutely needs to be abolished and anyone who doesn't have direct personal gain voting for them is a braindead moron.

[scott]

Tbh, in 2024 Democrats are just your run of the mill corrupted, semi-incompetent politicians.
Republicans have turned into pure evil and a mockery of everything right wing values stand for. Current GOP absolutely needs to be abolished and anyone who doesn't have direct personal gain voting for them is a braindead moron.

Only took 3 pages, but you pretty much perfectly summed it up.

[8FOR!3]

This thread is just one giant brainwashed echo chamber

[Pauleta14]

I agree disagree. I think the Ukraine conflict is one of the "easiest" in terms of taking a side. You're either with Ukraine or you're with appeasement of a dictator engaged in an eastern European land-grab in an attempt to restore what Russia views as "theirs" in the former USSR. It's a pretty easy choice for me.

Israel is a much more complicated matter where, in the US, there seems to only be two extreme sides when in reality it's a much more complicated and nuanced situation that neither side wants to budge on. I see these things far less driven by the "war lobby" than previous conflicts we've been involved in (like Iraq, for example).

You can say one party is a lot more under the influence of the military/war lobby than the other... but the other is clearly under the influence (all the way down to being flat out paid by them) by Pro-Russia interests. You have right wing commentators quite literally being paid by Russia and getting fed talking points.

As for Kamala being played... maybe we can forecast that, but we've already seen and experienced how Trump gets played by other world leaders, specifically our adversaries. The Trump/Putin press conference will go down in history as the most glaring example of American cowardice I've ever seen.

I disagree ^^

The Russo-Ukrainian conflics is a lot more complex to me, the more I learn about it, the more I listen to both (reasonable) sides the more it's difficult to take a side.

The israel issue is a lot simplier SHORT TERM, I'm not talking about finding a solution to end the conflict but about decent humanity and horrors that humanity has never witnessed live before. There a eal ugency there even more than in Ukraine and solutions that aren't difficult to find bc they already exist!!

Someone just need to tell Isreal to respect international laws and decent humanity

A side effect that pisses me off personnaly is how this conflict increases and creates anti semitisicm unnecessarilly. So much can be avoided fast and easy

[BackHome]

Kamala all ready folding just look at her campaigning with Freaking Liz Cheney you know it must be getting desperate for her to be doing this with one of the most War Mongering Republican families in our lifetime. The amount of blood on there hands from past and current Wars is staggering as it is obvious they under the control of the mighty Military Complex.

[Pauleta14]

You can say one party is a lot more under the influence of the military/war lobby than the other... but the other is clearly under the influence (all the way down to being flat out paid by them) by Pro-Russia interests. You have right wing commentators quite literally being paid by Russia and getting fed talking points.

As for Kamala being played... maybe we can forecast that, but we've already seen and experienced how Trump gets played by other world leaders, specifically our adversaries. The Trump/Putin press conference will go down in history as the most glaring example of American cowardice I've ever seen.

I totally agree, also Trump is getting older and will be even more manipulable and has a lot of very angry ppl in his camp (both candidates have tbf)

I could be wrong but Kamala scares the out of me, she's too dumb, too incompetent, she has no backbone etc and her vice president looks completely nuts!! They're going to do some stupid

[diego]

I'm not american and don't have a horse in the race, my position is more in terms of impact the US and the future administration will have on the world.

As for the Ukrainian and Israeli conflicts, I'm not here saying I know what to do etc but I know that one party is currently A LOT MORE under the imfluence of the "military/war" lobby than the other. You know how much lobbists are the real puppeteers.

My country has the same problems but maybe worst bc we don't have as strong of a consi ution as yours and France has been lead by lobbists for years now. Macron was one of them and doesn't come from a political background

Dpn't tell me Kamala inspires hope and peace to you, she'll be played left and right

You're crazy if you think trump is any less of a warmonger than Harris. In fact the current situation in Israel is a direct result of him.emboldening Israel to be more aggressive with settlers, and he has said if heneere president he'd encourage Israel to go all out (granted it's hard to picture how much further out they can actually go).

The idea of trump as the peace president / immune to lobby president is laughable, yet another con

[Pauleta14]

Tbh, in 2024 Democrats are just your run of the mill corrupted, semi-incompetent politicians.
Republicans have turned into pure evil and a mockery of everything right wing values stand for. Current GOP absolutely needs to be abolished and anyone who doesn't have direct personal gain voting for them is a braindead moron.

One side (republicans) looks scarier ... at first.

But in the end? Corruption and incompetences can be way more damaging for a country

ed up era we live in tbh

[LeBowen]

One side (republicans) looks scarier ... at first.

But in the end? Corruption and incompetences can be way more damaging for a country

ed up era we live in tbh

What made you think that Republicans aren't corrupt? Their current form is just a level above regular corruption.
Almost every goverment is corrupt in one way or another, it's in human nature.
Republicans are getting to comic book villain levels of corruption.

I'm personally a nihilist and I don't see how humanity gets back on track.
Enjoying the stuff I like doing, like following basketball, is all there is to do until the inevitable doomsday.

Idk why I even posted in this topic, I avoid politics talk like plague.
Everyone who wastes time on politics and has no direct benefits from it is just wasting their life away.

[CGD]

How is this thread only at 3 pages since this morning?! You guys are slacking AF.

[SayTown]

From a business perspective, he damages the brand because people on the left and right buy tickets and merchandise. I expect more military events to try and balance the effect. This is what the Spurs have done in the past when Pop talks beyond basketball in a basketball setting.

From polls 25% of Spurs fans say they are Republican which is about the average of the rest of the NBA. It's still a significant amount of fans though but no doubt Pop wouldn't be able to say this if he was an NFL coach.

[benefactor]

Tbh, in 2024 Democrats are just your run of the mill corrupted, semi-incompetent politicians.
Republicans have turned into pure evil and a mockery of everything right wing values stand for. Current GOP absolutely needs to be abolished and anyone who doesn't have direct personal gain voting for them is a braindead moron.

It still boggles my mind to this day that the party of family values that chased around Clinton for getting his sucked has unashamedly hitched its wagon to the poster boy for sexual assault.

[Spurs Homer]

Still havent seen ONE thing that Pop said that was inaccurate?

NOT ONE THING.

So with that- anyone who is “undecided” and/or are voting for a felon rapist traitor-

is just not on the side of the usa or usa democracy.

Someone else pointed out two “justifiable” reasons for voting for trump and he was spot on- especially the one about if you are rich and only care about taxes- then although you are a pos- at least your reasoning is clear…

I’ll add another one:
If you are a white supremacist supporter or a russian-
then yes i can see your reasons for voting for trump- again- you are a pos but your reason is clear.

[tim_duncan_fan]

This is the result of normalizing conservative :

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/sE93SlD5p6

[Pauleta14]

What made you think that Republicans aren't corrupt? Their current form is just a level above regular corruption.
Almost every goverment is corrupt in one way or another, it's in human nature.
Republicans are getting to comic book villain levels of corruption.

I'm personally a nihilist and I don't see how humanity gets back on track.
Enjoying the stuff I like doing, like following basketball, is all there is to do until the inevitable doomsday.

Idk why I even posted in this topic, I avoid politics talk like plague.
Everyone who wastes time on politics and has no direct benefits from it is just wasting their life away.

I don't. I was just using the description he made of the democrats.

Can I ask you your age?

It seems more an more in the younger generation are becoming nihilists

You can't miss or deny the beauty of humanity, it just happen that fear changes the whole behavior of even the smartests ppl.

[baseline bum]

It still boggles my mind to this day that the party of family values that chased around Clinton for getting his sucked has unashamedly hitched its wagon to the poster boy for sexual assault.

It boggles your mind that family values stemming from a church created specifically in support of slavery (namely the Southern Baptists) are a load of horse ?

[Pauleta14]

You're crazy if you think trump is any less of a warmonger than Harris. In fact the current situation in Israel is a direct result of him.emboldening Israel to be more aggressive with settlers, and he has said if heneere president he'd encourage Israel to go all out (granted it's hard to picture how much further out they can actually go).

The idea of trump as the peace president / immune to lobby president is laughable, yet another con

I have no idea of either intentions. They're both diff kind of nuts

I just compared facts, one administration that was the only one that didn't start a war in multiple decades and another that started and financed 2 massives ones.

[baseline bum]

I have no idea of either intentions. They're both diff kind of nuts

I just compared facts, one administration that was the only one that didn't start a war in multiple decades and another that started and financed 2 massives ones.

So assassinating Soleimani wasn't an act of war? And just give Ukraine to Russia, them?

[koriwhat]

It still boggles my mind to this day that the party of family values that chased around Clinton for getting his sucked has unashamedly hitched its wagon to the poster boy for sexual assault.

If you're going to say what you said then put all the details out for everyone to read through.

Clinton lied straight to our faces in a televised presentation. He did what he did in the White House and not outside of it as a civilian only. You claiming he just got a blow job and it was nothing isn't exactly what happened but sugar coating everything to run cover for the left is what you goons are good at.

[koriwhat]

Btw, Yall say I ruin the forum but dumb mentally ill SpursHomer can't keep his insane thoughts strictly to the "political forum" so now he comes up here to garner more views.

[Pauleta14]

So assassinating Soleimani wasn't an act of war? And just give Ukraine to Russia, them?

1st why do u keep acting as if I was defending Trump? I just gave a comparison/facts

2nd, yes Trump did some ed up stuff but none that lead to wars and by extention hundreds of thousands of innocent collateral victims.

As I said before I'm not american, my only pov is on the impact of the US administration in the world.

[GAustex]

That Maganificant Orange Bas is living rent free in ya’lls and that senile pop’s head.

[koriwhat]

1st why do u keep acting as if I was defending Trump? I just gave a comparison/facts

Because regressives don't live in reality. Anything against their dogma and you're all of a sudden a Trumper, even if you're not American and not in the USA.