The Parisian Patisserie of Victor Wembanyama

[z0sa]

I don't feel like Wemby deserves too much criticism. A guy like Dildo Brooks plays as nasty as Bowen did, maybe nastier because he gets super emotional, too. It'll be a challenge every time Wemby goes against him, and in reality, every time he steps on an NBA court. He needs reps vs these guys to improve. On to the next game.

[Kawhi Duncan]

I don't feel like Wemby deserves too much criticism. A guy like Dildo Brooks plays as nasty as Bowen did, maybe nastier because he gets super emotional, too. It'll be a challenge every time Wemby goes against him, and in reality, every time he steps on an NBA court. He needs reps vs these guys to improve. On to the next game.

There's blame to be placed for sure... You have to get physical with Dillon and not let him get into it head and push you around... Pop needed to punish them by setting plays where Wemby would catch it in the deep post vs brooks I stead of at the 3 point line where he can't do against Dillon... VERY poor coaching, and it seems like the game has passed Pop... And he is hindering Wemby's growth as a result

[Kawhi Duncan]

I'm fine with the 3s, he needs them to have long career and to be able to make defenses doubt.

I'm more concerned by him wandering too often not knowing what to do or not seing any plays they'd have been working on. It still looks free flowing

That's on Pop... Year 2 and he STILL hasn't designed an offense around Wemby... He just plays pick up ball and you have to home he is hot that particular night... Wemby would THRIVE with someone different coaching him

[Kawhi Duncan]

Yeah, this would be destructive in the longterm and most nights not productive in the short.

Right now, Victor needs to not have a green light. He very clearly needs a set of actions, a set of moves and reads he is supposed to progress through to try to get as-low-effort-as-possible buckets.

Even when he has a night where he is just jacking shots up and they are going in, it's still counterproductive if he is not getting those shots in a constructive way.


These losses are actually badly needed because they are, at least in significant part, due to Vic just doing what he wants to do instead of doing things well. Maybe the coaching staff is allowing him to see that he needs coaching. Sometimes with teenagers, you have to let a hard head create a soft ass.

Pop needs to design a ing offense around the guy and not just have him playing pick up.... That's not gonna work when you have Sochan starting so then you can't even run a simple pick and roll with Wemby because sochan's man will sit in the paint to cut it off

[The Truth #6]

Maybe VW wants to play this way and the staff is trying not to alienate him by forcing him into something he doesn't want to do yet.

Or, he's just tired from playing in the Summer and therefore playing poorly.

[Ice009]

I think we just agree to disagree. As you noted those greats do one great thing nobody else is doing, not everything. Wemby is doing everything now and he isn’t good at any of them. Focus on one or two things you want to be great at at a time, lebron worked on his threes, magic his no looks, steph his step back threes, Kareem his skyhook, hakeem his shakes, duncan his banks, Dirk his one foot fades, jordan his turnaround fades, but they did these in practice first until it’s a proficient and consistent move before busting them out in games. Wemby is just doing whatever comes to his mind at the moment (at least it looks like that to me). He shouldn’t be pushed to do hard things, he should impose his will on the defence.

I'm going to say, I remember something Kawhi said, but don't remember it fully so hopefully I get it right/am remembering right. He said the difference between himself and a lot of other players is, he practices/works on things he wants to learn/use in games, then he is able to apply it in the actual game. He said a lot of players do some great things in practice, or practice certain/specific things, but can't seem to be able to do in actual games. It's an interesting point he brought up. Some people just can't apply it to game time situations no matter how much they practice it. I wonder if it's because of the pressure/bright lights, or they just can't do it when playing against real opponents. I remember guys like Dwight Howard working with Hakeem, but I never really saw that translate to him being able to do it in games. Kawhi was saying he practices it, and then is able to do it in games.

I don't know what Victor works on in practice, but it does seem like he's doing a lot of improvising on the court. Not sure if you can become great doing that. I mean, this isn't sports, but there are some great musicians that improvise and are great, so maybe Victor can be too doing that (again not sure if that is what he's doing, and/or if he's done some of the stuff in practice, it just looks that way to me that he's trying stuff on the spot during a game).

Overall all, though, I agree with your point about learning/working on things in practice and then doing it in a game. Steph Curry said he practices shooting sped up/faster in practice, so that when he shoots in a game, he's able to shoot slower and it makes it easier for him.

[exstatic]

I'm going to say, I remember something Kawhi said, but don't remember it fully so hopefully I get it right/am remembering right. He said the difference between himself and a lot of other players is, he practices/works on things he wants to learn/use in games, then he is able to apply it in the actual game. He said a lot of players do some great things in practice, or practice certain/specific things, but can't seem to be able to do in actual games. It's an interesting point he brought up. Some people just can't apply it to game time situations no matter how much they practice it. I wonder if it's because of the pressure/bright lights, or they just can't do it when playing against real opponents. I remember guys like Dwight Howard working with Hakeem, but I never really saw that translate to him being able to do it in games. Kawhi was saying he practices it, and then is able to do it in games.

I don't know what Victor works on in practice, but it does seem like he's doing a lot of improvising on the court. Not sure if you can become great doing that. I mean, this isn't sports, but there are some great musicians that improvise and are great, so maybe Victor can be too doing that (again not sure if that is what he's doing, and/or if he's done some of the stuff in practice, it just looks that way to me that he's trying stuff on the spot during a game).

Overall all, though, I agree with your point about learning/working on things in practice and then doing it in a game. Steph Curry said he practices shooting sped up/faster in practice, so that when he shoots in a game, he's able to shoot slower and it makes it easier for him.

With Mute Cancer,there was a progression. He would work on something with the development staff. When they reached a certain point of proficiency, the skill would be moved to practice. Then, when the proficiency level was reached in practice, they would advance the skill to use within games.

[SayTown]

That's on Pop... Year 2 and he STILL hasn't designed an offense around Wemby... He just plays pick up ball and you have to home he is hot that particular night... Wemby would THRIVE with someone different coaching him

Maybe but he did the same thing in the Olympics almost half his shots were 3's and he didn't really impose his will and have a truly dominant game at least offensively until the Gold Medal match vs USA, he just likes playing playground style.

[Spurs Homer]

Yeah, this would be destructive in the longterm and most nights not productive in the short.

Right now, Victor needs to not have a green light. He very clearly needs a set of actions, a set of moves and reads he is supposed to progress through to try to get as-low-effort-as-possible buckets.

Even when he has a night where he is just jacking shots up and they are going in, it's still counterproductive if he is not getting those shots in a constructive way.


These losses are actually badly needed because they are, at least in significant part, due to Vic just doing what he wants to do instead of doing things well. Maybe the coaching staff is allowing him to see that he needs coaching. Sometimes with teenagers, you have to let a hard head create a soft ass.

that ^

is the difference between terrified spurs fans and what the warriors and kerr

did with curry

imagine when curry began launching logo threes and missing some…

terrified spurs fans would have pissed their pants and made posts like in the last couple of pages

kerr and the warriors didnt their pants and curry changed the entire game- as much as i hate the prick
he did just that

wemby is on this level and more

please spurs fans - stop wetting the bed and watch him become the GOAT

[skin27]

Castle also brings nyhing to the table becase he cant shoot

[Mr. Body]

This league is the best in the world. Teams figure out what players want to do, and this is why players with big first years sometimes never get better. Defenders know when to dig at Vic's drives, when to move in a second or third defender, how to push him into low-efficiency shots.

It's sort of the analogue to when Duncan struggled with double teams early in his career.

This is frustrating, and the growing pains may take a while, but he's a smart player with a good coaching staff and they'll figure this out step by step.

[NASpurs]

This league is the best in the world. Teams figure out what players want to do, and this is why players with big first years sometimes never get better. Defenders know when to dig at Vic's drives, when to move in a second or third defender, how to push him into low-efficiency shots.

It's sort of the analogue to when Duncan struggled with double teams early in his career.

This is frustrating, and the growing pains may take a while, but he's a smart player with a good coaching staff and they'll figure this out step by step.

low hanging fruit

[MannyIsGod]

Is Wemby getting traded? Theres no good coaching staff in San Antonio.

[DAF86]

Somebody needs to make him understand that he isn't Durant and he will never be Durant. He can be way better, but for that to happen, he needs to understand that his greatest strength it's his size. Stop bull ting around, get your ass inside and play smart, professional, grown ass basketball.

Yall can try to rationalize it as much as you want, the only truth is this one above. Wemby is way too tall to be handling the ball out on the perimeter, he's gonna get stripped over and over.

The shooting around him doesn't help either. Wemby and Pop need to stop ing around and get serious for once.

[deanoden]

Trading him now probably would be a good idea if the return was there. He doesn't seem to had added anything to his game over the summer. He's way overhyped.

[SayTown]

that ^

is the difference between terrified spurs fans and what the warriors and kerr

did with curry

imagine when curry began launching logo threes and missing some…

terrified spurs fans would have pissed their pants and made posts like in the last couple of pages

kerr and the warriors didnt their pants and curry changed the entire game- as much as i hate the prick
he did just that

wemby is on this level and more

please spurs fans - stop wetting the bed and watch him become the GOAT

What Curry came in the league shooting .437 from 3 as a rookie.

[Rosewood]

Trading him now probably would be a good idea if the return was there. He doesn't seem to had added anything to his game over the summer. He's way overhyped.

You’re a ing maniac.

[Pauleta14]

I think bringing a proper PG might have been a false good idea.

Wemby not being a real center hanging in the post shined off of his playmaking last season and now has that part of his game taken away.

He ends up being too static and having either to catch and shoot (he doesn't like it) or drible (not a good move)

He needs to be in motion and the center of the team, exploiting double teams with his passing

Right now he's just a role player

[SayTown]

Yall can try to rationalize it as much as you want, the only truth is this one above. Wemby is way too tall to be handling the ball out on the perimeter, he's gonna get stripped over and over.

The shooting around him doesn't help either. Wemby and Pop need to stop ing around and get serious for once.

Exactly his greatest assets is his height and the closer he is to the basket the more he can take advantage of that, for him to play on the perimeter the team would need to surround him with knock down shooters.

[z0sa]

we're not trading Wemby. That'd be the end of the Spurs in SA if we did.

But he's got a long-ass ways to go if he wants to even be in the playoff hunt.

[Degoat]

I’m really disappointed in his start to the season but the rockets and OKC are like the worst matchups for the spurs outta all the teams in the league tbh

[MannyIsGod]

Trading him now probably would be a good idea if the return was there. He doesn't seem to had added anything to his game over the summer. He's way overhyped.

This should be an immediate ban tbh

[Pauleta14]

I’m really disappointed in his start to the season but the rockets and OKC are like the worst matchups for the spurs outta all the teams in the league tbh

Add Dallas who plays Wemby physical always as well

+ Wemby being sick

But the roster lacks too much talent and shooting and I suspect a lot more teams will play physical with Wemby now, everybody got the message around the league

+ Pop sucks

[james evans]

Pop needs to design a ing offense around the guy and not just have him playing pick up.... That's not gonna work when you have Sochan starting so then you can't even run a simple pick and roll with Wemby because sochan's man will sit in the paint to cut it off

popovich needs to ing retire. He's 75 years old in a new era of basketball different from the eras that he was able to dominate with Duncan. This is no longer a big man's league and he hasn't done in years. I'm just waiting for this site to turn Wemby into a villain as they did Murray and Kawhi when the inevitable happens.

[timtonymanu]

low hanging fruit

The lengths of his sniffing tbh.

Meanwhile he scoffs at guys like Lamelo and Trae who would EASILY make us a better team