Meanwhile...
Poll: Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris with Puerto Ricans in Florida
Even after a toxic news cycle driven by a comic’s ill-advised comments about Puerto Ricans at a Donald Trump rally, the former President holds a marginal lead with that cons uency in a new poll.
Trump is up by two points against Kamala Harris in the survey released by Cygnal and shared first with Florida Politics.
The survey was conducted between Oct. 26 and Oct. 28, encompassing Sunday, when the comedian “Kill Tony” said Puerto Rico was an “island of garbage” at the former President’s rally in Madison Square Garden.
Democrats linked those comments to Trump, but at least in this survey, the former President isn’t suffering collateral damage with the group maligned by the roast comic’s untimely routine.
The marginal lead with Puerto Ricans is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Trump’s strength and that of others with Hispanics in this poll.
Trump has 50% support among Hispanic voters overall, which Cygnal notes is better than his 46% in 2020’s race against Joe Biden and the 35% he had against Hillary Clinton in 2016.
A big source of that strength: Trump being up 28 points with Cuban Americans.
Trump is at 49% approval among Hispanics overall, against 49% disapproval. In contrast, Harris is at 45% approval and 50% disapproval.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives...ns-in-florida/
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Win or lose, Trump has run a great campaign this time around
"suggests"
You guys are proving to be incredible snowflakes after all.![]()
Forgetting about demographics for a second.
That is absolutely horrible numbers for Trump and the GOP in Florida.
If he doesn't win Florida by near double or double digits, he's not winning the election.
Then again, polls typically historically massively underestimate him and the GOP in Florida especially in recent elections. I think DeSantis and Rubio outperformed polls by like 8%.
Kamala SURGES to 50% on Predic :
https://www.predic .org/markets
Bitcoin FALLS from $73k to $70k. Expect a much bigger crash if Kamala wins, at least in the very short term. Long term crypto should be alright
Chances of Trump winning popular vote but losing election are increasing.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris
Trump up nationally by 0.4% with +1 and +2 polls being released in favor of Trump. Harris is up by under 0.5% in WI and MI and even though Trump leads PA the polls don't tend to miss in favor of Trump in PA like they do in WI or MI historically. Trump is already crying cheating in PA and McCormick is a poll overperformer.
I hope Trump wins the popular vote but Harris wins the electoral college (just for s and giggles) at the last minute after some 5am vote dumps or whatever to put her just barely over the top in WI, MI, and PA, just for s and giggles to make him cry again. Man that would be epic,
But hopefully the GOP ends up with between 54 and 57 Senate seats because of very narrow ticket splitting that is in line with past very narrow ticket splitting in favor of the rust-belt GOP Senate candidates in 2016 and 2020. So we'll have gridlock which is good. Hopefully the GOP also retains at least a slight house majority, which would naturally largely be by virtue of winning the popular vote by flipping/retaining districts in blue and purple states. Gridlock is best case scenario because you get a limit on spending and government power. And you're unlikely to get a partisan hack in the supreme court if the president and senate are opposite controlled.
In the sun belt Kari Lake has been surging and it'd piss off the libs epically if she won that senate seat after allTrump will likely have to carry AZ by 2.3% or better for Lake to win, but it's plausible
that would be hilarious
"republic, not a democracy"![]()
In such a case the result would be 270-268 Harris, which in ordinary years you might have to worry about defective faithless electors, but in this cir stance you better believe that both sides would be putting up the most vetted, faithless electors possible to certify party line on Jan 6. The Dems did a horrible job of that in 2016 but it didn't really matter.
the alternative scenario to avoid that would be giving Harris Nevada very narrowly to provide a cushion of up to 6 faithless electors which would be more than enough (276-262 Harris), which would net the GOP a realistic maximum of 56 senate seats (don't really see NV split ticketing) which would still be plenty. (Cue the spongebob gutter picture of all the GOP swing race candidates winning but Trump losing.)
but yes, that would be by far the funniest way for trump to lose and be kicked out of politics.
Oh no! This means you win!
Unless Trump loses. Which means you win!
lol fair weather posters soothing their nerves at the last second, it's a win/win!
I've said that since you libs decided to go ridin with Biden
The fact that you're now standing shoulder to shoulder with Cheney should tell you something
nah, you've got me mixed up with someone else
That your Trump is an unprecedented disaster. You have ty judgment which is why you have to declare victory no matter what.![]()
2016 boys checking in
Yam s will call out media fake as soon as he loses, again
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I'm outta the loop
Who will win fellas?
Scenario 1: Trump wins the popular vote and the ostensible electoral majority outright.
Possibly complicated by his scheduled criminal sentencing before his inauguration, but in this instance I think Harris concedes.
Scenario 2: Harris wins the popular vote and the ostensible electoral majority. Trump will not concede.
If the states do not certify the electors on time, an ostensibly winning Harris can be deprived of electoral votes.
Whatever dispute issues at that point is a federal matter under the ECRA that eventually ends up before a very partisan SCOTUS, that can pretty much be relied upon to propel Trump to his ultimate potency.
Scenario 3: Harris wins with an overwhelming popular vote. Not a landslide, but a decisive margin.
Trump will not concede and shenanigans will ensue, but they will be -- possibly -- less convincing.
Last edited by Winehole23; 10-31-2024 at 09:55 PM.
^ that's literally well under half the plausible scenarios
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