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I meant support for Hezbollah from within the Lebanon. You have on the one side a goverment that just begs for peace, and on the other side an organization that actually fights back. I think that will get Hezbollah more support from lebanese(sp?).
ing rockets being fired from plastic and milk factories now too.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article....ticle_id=74078BEIRUT: Israel switched gears in its military campaign against Lebanon Monday and Tuesday, launching a series of debilitating air strikes against privately owned factories throughout the country and dealing a devastating blow to an economy already paralyzed by a week of hits on residential areas and crucial infrastructure.
The production facilities of at least five companies in key industrial sectors - including the country's largest dairy farm, Liban Lait; a paper mill; a packaging firm and a pharmaceutical plant - have been disabled or completely destroyed. Industry insiders say the losses will cripple the economy for decades to come.
"I think the picture will be much worse than we can possible imagine when the whole thing ends, but the direct damage from yesterday's attacks to the industrial sector alone will take years to recover from," said Wajid al-Bisri, the vice-president of the Lebanese Association of Industrialists (LAI).
"So many of these factories were barely functioning before," he added, "because of local obstacles to production like high energy costs and labor."
Due to broken lines of communication to the affected areas, the full extent of the material and human damage was still unknown when The Daily Star went to press. However, up to 15 factories have been hit, according to some estimates.
Bisri confirmed that a plastics factory in Tyre, a tissue paper factory in Sidon, a paper mill and a medical supply company in Beirut's southern suburbs and Liban Lait in the Bekaa were all almost completely destroyed. Bisri declined to give the companies' names.
I meant support for Hezbollah from within the Lebanon. You have on the one side a goverment that just begs for peace, and on the other side an organization that actually fights back. I think that will get Hezbollah more support from lebanese(sp?).
July 19, 2006
U.S. Appears to Be Waiting to Act on Israeli Airstrikes
By HELENE COOPER and STEVEN ERLANGER
WASHINGTON, July 19 — The outlines of an American-Israeli consensus began to emerge on Tuesday, in which Israel would continue to bombard Lebanon for another week or so to degrade the capabilities of the Hezbollah militia, officials of the two countries said.
Then, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would go to the region and seek to establish a buffer zone in southern Lebanon, and perhaps an international force to monitor Lebanon’s borders and prevent Hezbollah from obtaining more rockets for bombarding Israel.
American officials signaled that Ms. Rice was waiting at least a few more days before wading into the conflict, in part to give Israel more time to weaken Hezbollah.
The strategy carries risk, partly because it remains unclear just how long the rest of the world, particularly America’s Arab allies, will remain silent as the toll on Lebanese civilians rises.
More civilians were killed in Israeli air strikes today — at least 19, according to The Associated Press, while the BBC put the total at 40, and Reuters at 50. Israeli ground troops briefly crossed the Lebanese border and clashed with Hezbollah forces, news services said, while Americans in Beirut began boarding a cruise liner for evacuation to Cyprus.
Reuters reported that 12 Lebanese civilians, including several children, were killed and 30 people were wounded when Israeli jets bombed several houses in Srifa, a village in the country’s south. “There was a massacre in Srifa,’’ said Afif Najdi, the village’s mayor.
Israeli forces also made their biggest incursion into the Gaza Strip in days, sending tanks into a refugee camp, where fighting lead to the deaths of nine Palestinians, officials said.
On Tuesday, 11 members of the Lebanese Army died when bombs hit their barracks east of Beirut, while in southern Lebanon, nine members of a single family were killed and four were wounded in an Israeli air strike on their house in the village of Aitaroun, near the Israeli border.
Some 500,000 Lebanese have fled their homes to escape the violence, the United Nations estimated.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/19/wo...rtner=homepage
If the UN is allowed to occupy Lebanon and control its borders and ports (probably th only way weak Lebanon will be able to master its own country later), then I expect US to provide many $Bs in support to rebuild and stabilize democratic Lebanon. If the US wants democracy to sprout in the M/E, they will have to provide a lot of $green fertilizer.
If somebody else does it, it's "guerilla warfare" but if Lebanon or Palestine does it all the sudden it's 'terrorism'?
What kind of double standard is that. Then when Israel turns around and does the same it's "retribution". Would the United States invade a country if one of it's soldiers was kidnapped? I seriously ing doubt it.
WW1 was started by the assasination of one man, Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Remember that.
Good editorial regarding the necessity of Israel's actions.
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Damn the detractors, Israel, Full speed ahead
By Ben Shapiro
Wednesday, July 19, 2006
On July 17, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert addressed the Knesset, Israel's legislature. "There are moments in the life of a nation, when it is compelled to look directly into the face of reality and say: No more!" he thundered. "And I say to everyone: No more! Israel will not be held hostage -- not by terror gangs or by a terrorist authority or by any sovereign state." Israel, Olmert stated, is fighting for "everything that everyone in the enlightened world takes for granted and never imagined that they would have to fight for -- the right to a normal life. … We have no intention of giving up our desire to live a normal life. We will not apologize for this desire, and we do not need anyone's approval to defend ourselves."
Israel will have to maintain that sense of moral backbone if it is to emerge victorious from this latest Arab attempt to obliterate it. It cannot expect the world's support or approval. For once in its short life, Israel will have to abandon its ridiculous commitment to the "community of nations" -- a community of nations that wishes to see Israel eviscerated.
Russian President Vladimir Putin calls Israel's defensive incursion into the Gaza Strip and Lebanon unacceptable, involving as it does the "use of full-scale force." "All the sides that are involved in the conflict must immediately cease military action," says Putin. This from the likes of a ruthless former KGB agent whose country is historically responsible for gulags, pogroms, unceasing expansionism and mass extermination of political opposition.
Pope Benedict XVI equated Israel's response with the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas, explaining, "neither terrorist acts or reprisals, especially when they have such tragic consequences on the civilian population, can be justified." The Vatican should have little moral authority in the realm of international politics, especially when it comes to Israel. No long-standing organized religious ins ution promotes the sort of international moral relativism the Vatican espouses. And in light of its history, the Vatican hardly has the standing to condemn a Jewish right to self-defense.
President Jacques Chirac of France says that Israel's response to the kidnapping of its soldiers and the coordinated terror attacks on its homeland has been "totally disproportionate." Of course, one would not expect a French president to know that the point of war is a completely disproportionate use of force culminating in victory. For the French, a proportionate response is, presumably, surrender.
While the world complains, Israel is busy doing the kind of necessary dirty work from which the world benefits. In 1956, Israel, along with Britain and France, temporarily prevented Egypt from nationalizing the Suez Canal and thereby monopolizing one of the world's most important trade routes. In 1981, Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear power plant in Osiraq, setting back Saddam Hussein's attempts to develop weapons of mass destruction. In 1982, Israel's invasion of Lebanon destroyed a good deal of terrorist infrastructure in an area that was one giant terrorist training camp. If America is the world's policeman, Israel is the Middle East's custodian.
Now, Israel may have to do what the world secretly wishes: It may have to dismantle both the Syrian and the Iranian regimes, the true sources of terror in the Middle East. If Israel decides to finally do what it must to assure its long-term security, it will attack those regimes. America can and should provide support; thankfully, President Bush seems quite willing to do so. Meanwhile, the world will doubtless shed a few tears and stamp its feet at Israeli aggression while it quietly pops champagne.
Your domino theory of attacking the missle maker is flawed. Yes, China makes some of these missles, but does not supply them to hezbollah. They have been sold or gifted to hezbollah by Iran, a gov. recognized by the world. Hezbollah is recognized as a terrorist organization. Syria is a gov. recognized by the world communitee.
What is strange is Iran has publicly stated their wish for Israels destruction and yet their still considered a legitimate gov.
Israel should hit Syria and we should strike at Iran.
I can't believe I feel this way.
fnck "not proportionate".
Those Arabs don't understand ANYTHING but fatal, brutal force.
Arabs lose 10 - 20 times more on their side, repeatedly, than they kill Israelis, a sign of true insanity.
Its not insanity if you believe you'll be rewarded by your God.
Relegion stirs the pot again.
What a disappointment when, instead of 72 virgins waiting for you, you face the fires of !!Its not insanity if you believe you'll be rewarded by your God.
Dont hijack this thread.
Yeah, Crooks. I'm sitting here suggesting an action to take that is certainly appealing to you, and you want to talk about your God.
Put the good book down.
seems like all hezbolah is doin if randomly firing their rockets into israel hittin anything that pks.
While israel takes out one hezbolah at the expense of a building of leb occuppiers/residents.
is this even a war, or just sum to cover up genocide? cose atm all im seeing on tv is they are takin out ppl instead of the ppl targeted.
There's your problem.
War sucks but it's a part of human nature.
...and the ensuing misunderstanding.
There is no misunderstanding here. One kidnapping is not a reason to start a war. Booooo Israel.
What sickens me is to turn on CNN, and have the "correspondent" reporting what's going on being a former Israeli military official. Did you guys see that? VERY OBJECTIVE.
It's very very one-sided.
On one side you have random rockets being fired with no specific direction, hoping to hit something of importance. On the other side you have an army strategically taking out the airport, water supply, and highways.
I'll let you decided which side is which. Bless our media.
What I meant by my comment was that these terrorists are misguided in their reasoning and it doesn't justify their hatred and attacks against Israel.
Expand on why they're misguided.
Because they want to kill you too, dummy. And anyone that isn't on their
side. You have got the sense God gave a goose.
Good justification.
"They want to kill you too". It couldn't be them protecting there turf, right? Muslim aren't trying to invade anybody. It's the US and Israel that are going into Muslim countries.
I'd say their kiidnapping of those 2 soldiers was very ing misguided. If they expected Israel to react this way, then it wasn't misguided but very ing stupid.
Take your pick.
Ok, give me a break here. I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more open minded on this subject than anyone here but you're just ignoring the facts now. Yeah, I have a lot of sympathy for Palestinians and I believe they are fighting an occupier but Hezbollah can off right about now.
Hezbollah was formed to fight the Israeli occupation of Lebanon, which ing ended 6 years ago. I have no problem with the existing as a political faction, but they've been ordered to disarm and have failed to do so. Hezbollah does a lot of good for the people of Lebanon, but that all goes down the ing drain when they are the direct cause of this type of military action.
The blame lies at their feet and no one - not even muslim countries - are denying that one bit.
Their "means" by which they persue their goals? Is that what you mean by "misguided"?
Frankly, I'm sick of the whole goddamn thing.
If were going to fight them, then in do it. Make Iran pay for their stance on Israel and the US. Put more troops in Iraq and treat it like a lawnmower does a yard. Let go of Israels leash and let them pitbull down on Syria while we cluster Iran. While were at it, we'll blast N.Korea until not one kimchi pot is left to bury.
All you right wingers keep telling us what has to be done. SO QUIT IN AROUND!!!
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