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    Next season they definitely have to add some serious long term pieces, I agree.
    Even this season we could make the play-in with just a couple moves.
    Replace Collins with any competent backup big and add another Champagnie-like shooter. Nothing special, just someone who can move around and the defense needs to follow.
    With Devin coming back, it would be enough to get at least 35 wins.

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    Next season they definitely have to add some serious long term pieces, I agree.
    sure, but whats the big difference between this year and next year.

    if the team was thinking "we'll consider making a giannis move next year", then you may as well be ready to do so this year, because you never know who will or wont be available next year.

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    sure, but whats the big difference between this year and next year.

    if the team was thinking "we'll consider making a giannis move next year", then you may as well be ready to do so this year, because you never know who will or wont be available next year.
    sure but I guess there’s a reason why we potentially have 4 first round picks for the 25 draft class. With how strong this class is, you can basically put the finishing touches of „the process“ on the roster and then move on adding talent through other avenues. I‘m not saying I‘m against Giannis, but you‘ll most likely have to give up all your 25 picks + future picks, Vassell, Sochan and Castle to get him.

    If we are doing unrealistic spurstalk trades a la Zach Collins, Keldon and 4 firsts, sure do that. But we all know that’s not realistic.

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    I know Giannis and wemby at first glance seems like their games wouldn't mesh well (that was even my enitial thought) there more I think about it though I think it would work out just fine like how TD and Drob made it work.

    If we have an opportunity to land another superstar talent you take it and try to make it work, it's not like the Spurs are in any position to be choosy.

    I think it would work out just fine if we surrounded those 2 with a couple of good ball handlers and shooters

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    giannis wants to go to the heat, knicks, nets.

    i think the heat will play hardball, to their detriment. and don't the spurs have as much to offer as the knicks / nets?

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    giannis wants to go to the heat, knicks, nets.
    What makes you think that? It's just the narrative ESPN is trying to push.
    Giannis is a compe or and his first priority is to win a couple more rings. He's not an American and doesn't care about the market, just the roster.

    i think the heat will play hardball, to their detriment. and don't the spurs have as much to offer as the knicks / nets?
    Heat couldn't even get Lillard, let alone Giannis.
    It's honestly ridiculous how they keep getting brought up in these discussions with nothing to offer.

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    giannis wants to go to the heat, knicks, nets.

    i think the heat will play hardball, to their detriment. and don't the spurs have as much to offer as the knicks / nets?
    what do the knicks offer? they have no picks left other than 1 protected pick from washington

    nets have a trove of picks like we do, they'd just be giannis and crap if they made a move

    miami... can offer at least a couple of picks (dont have a FRP in 25 or 27). but they'd be sending back one of butler or even bam to get it done. you're not getting Giannis for Herro, Jacquez, and 2 first

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    I wouldn't want Giannis on the Spurs. Low-key one of the worst-character guys in the league, is basically a bigger Wesbrook and he completely takes Wemby's spot on the floor. I wasn't hot on Markkanen, but I'd take him 30 times before I even look at Giannis.

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    I wouldn't want Giannis on the Spurs. Low-key one of the worst-character guys in the league, is basically a bigger Wesbrook and he completely takes Wemby's spot on the floor. I wasn't hot on Markkanen, but I'd take him 30 times before I even look at Giannis.
    i'd also have preferred a Markkanen trade. the fit was easier, and while Ainge wanted a ton of picks, i dont think you'd be expected to give up multiple pieces in addition to a bunch of picks like you would for Giannis

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    houston also has a solid amount of picks and a hodgepodge of nice looking pieces who dont all seem to fit together. a consolidation move theoretically makes sense for them. no clue if they're looking in that direction though

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    i'd also have preferred a Markkanen trade. the fit was easier, and while Ainge wanted a ton of picks, i dont think you'd be expected to give up multiple pieces in addition to a bunch of picks like you would for Giannis
    Eh, I think Ainge would want a centerpiece to continue his flips like with Sexton and Mark for Mitc and Kessler from Minny.

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    I wouldn't want Giannis on the Spurs. Low-key one of the worst-character guys in the league, is basically a bigger Wesbrook and he completely takes Wemby's spot on the floor. I wasn't hot on Markkanen, but I'd take him 30 times before I even look at Giannis.
    He's averaging 31/12/6 on 63%, you can't say you wouldn't want a player like that.
    Every superstar in today's league has his wishes when it comes to roster construction.

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    Our farm is not that good.
    More like a garden with one really tall weed.

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    Eh, I think Ainge would want a centerpiece to continue his flips like with Sexton and Mark for Mitc and Kessler from Minny.
    i think the centerpiece they'd be looking for would have been Flagg. i dont think vassell would have been on the table in a markkanen deal, whereas i think he'd be included in a giannis deal. i think it would have been sochan + salary + picks for lauri

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    He's averaging 31/12/6 on 63%, you can't say you wouldn't want a player like that.
    Every superstar in today's league has his wishes when it comes to roster construction.
    Pretty sure I've already said I wouldn't want him. And Giannis showed low character long before he became a star. He and Lillard deserve to rot on the Bucks.

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    And Giannis showed low character long before he became a star.
    I'm genuinely curious about this one. When? And what did he do?
    Up until recent stuff with Bud firing I haven't heard a single actually bad thing about Giannis.

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    the tiny elephant in the room of any kind of "timeline" questions is that you cant count on Paul in a postseason run, and that was part of the appeal of these spurs signing him ... we dont need him deep in the playoffs because we arent getting there

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    Why go after a guy with such a cazy long ass list of injuries intering his 30s??

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    One thing to consider when theorizing a trade for Giannis, or anyone else for that matter, is the Spurs may be on the precipice of a fundamental change in philosophy for the first time in almost 30 years. What does the post-Pop era look like? Do they go to an insider who will allow RC and Brian Wright to continue the same direction? Does RC view this as his time to step down as well? Do the Spurs want to make a bigger splash with may entail a bigger shift of FO personnel? Does this empower Brian Wright to pursue a direction unknown to us that maybe he has preferred all along but couldn’t because Pop and RC?

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    houston also has a solid amount of picks and a hodgepodge of nice looking pieces who dont all seem to fit together. a consolidation move theoretically makes sense for them. no clue if they're looking in that direction though
    Yeah Thompson + Whitmore + Smith + picks will be hard for anyone to match.

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    the spurs are not drafting a player better than giannis. that should be the end of the argument.

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