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    Also the 2020 primaries were already proof Harris was unelectable.
    They tried to spin in that she was going to be the female Obama. That blew up in their face bad

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    They tried to spin in that she was going to be the female Obama. That blew up in their face bad
    Both commies, so...

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    If Democrats had any spine, though, they wouldn't move to the right at all again but even further left. They'd play a long game of being destroyed by Republicans for an election cycle or few until the average Joe is willing to roll the dice on someone else because Republicans, like every party, become less popular. 2036 I'd say, if Democrats are lucky. Once they have the mandate Republicans do right now, they undo whatever they consider crazy and then establish all of their own agenda prerogatives. Moving as one party instead of a rag tag group of dumbasses who can't agree on like Gaza or being overly concerned about appearances and celebrities would be required. Rinse and repeat.

    They won't, though. They're just, if not more, beholden to their corporate donors who will never allow them to move left far enough to accomplish anything they talk about. They're dead in the water at this point, because they're just a less right wing party than Republicans on the grand scale.
    They're not going to move left until lib voters are willing to lose rather than settle for the middle of the road candidate. It's what Trumpsters did.

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    Obviously Latino voters are way less concerned about themselves and their families getting wrapped up in mass deportations than I am, so I hope I'm the wrong one and we're able to very humanely and with 100% accuracy send millions of undo ented immigrants off to wherever.

    Similarly, black males seem less concerned about a Trump police state than I am so maybe I'm wrong about that too.

    God knows how many women who've previously had abortions of their own just voted against body autonomy for other women.

    I hope poor people get the economic recovery they believe they voted for.

    I'm kind of out of s at this point. Empathy is pretty tiring. Time to relax and take advantage of my white male privilege for a while, y'all can have politics in the meantime.

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    They're not going to move left until lib voters are willing to lose rather than settle for the middle of the road candidate. It's what Trumpsters did.
    Trump has the advantage of being independently wealthy and thus has a free pass even when Musk and co donate billions his way. He's above the swamp in people's hearts and minds, even if the reality is at least sometimes different.

    Democrats need someone exactly like this. It's ancient Rome all over again. Only the wealthy oligarchs will have any chance at convincing people they're not part of the swamp. Eventually, someone's going to take total control and elections will be local and state level (with plenty of corruption) and the federal branch will be more or less a dictatorship. That's how I see it, any way. Not because of any particular person today, but because the overall situation tracks well with what's already happened in history with a historically large and powerful republic.

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    Obviously Latino voters are way less concerned about themselves and their families getting wrapped up in mass deportations than I am, so I hope I'm the wrong one and we're able to very humanely and with 100% accuracy send millions of undo ented immigrants off to wherever.

    Similarly, black males seem less concerned about a Trump police state than I am so maybe I'm wrong about that too.

    God knows how many women who've previously had abortions of their own just voted against body autonomy for other women.

    I hope poor people get the economic recovery they believe they voted for.

    I'm kind of out of s at this point. Empathy is pretty tiring. Time to relax and take advantage of my white male privilege for a while, y'all can have politics in the meantime.
    Yup. Problem is, my wife and kids are Latin, so even though I present white and get a free pass, there's plenty of people who won't. They have a white last name so they're probably immune from a lot of the automation that will occur with such a system, though, so I guess they have that in their favor.

    It is what it is at this point. Americans, including those minorities who will be most affected like you said, want this. I'll just have to get with the program and not give a , either, to the extent that I can and apparently, should.

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    Yup. Problem is, my wife and kids are Latin, so even though I present white and get a free pass, there's plenty of people who won't. They have a white last name so they're probably immune from a lot of the automation that will occur with such a system, though, so I guess they have that in their favor.

    It is what it is at this point. Americans, including those minorities who will be most affected like you said, want this. I'll just have to get with the program and not give a , either, to the extent that I can and apparently, should.
    thats your fault for being a race traitor tbh

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    They're not going to move left until lib voters are willing to lose rather than settle for the middle of the road candidate. It's what Trumpsters did.
    On what planet was Romney and his let's get rid of Medicare anything middle of the road?

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    Yup. Problem is, my wife and kids are Latin, so even though I present white and get a free pass, there's plenty of people who won't. They have a white last name so they're probably immune from a lot of the automation that will occur with such a system, though, so I guess they have that in their favor.

    It is what it is at this point. Americans, including those minorities who will be most affected like you said, want this. I'll just have to get with the program and not give a , either, to the extent that I can and apparently, should.
    Pretty much this for me.

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    They tried to spin in that she was going to be the female Obama. That blew up in their face bad
    Obama was weak too. He only won in 2012 because Romney ran on hey let's get rid of Medicare! all of you 54 and under! Was literally the biggest self-own in politics I had seen until the DNC decided to run someone who couldn't win a single primary in the god damn general.

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    Obviously Latino voters are way less concerned about themselves and their families getting wrapped up in mass deportations than I am, so I hope I'm the wrong one and we're able to very humanely and with 100% accuracy send millions of undo ented immigrants off to wherever.

    Similarly, black males seem less concerned about a Trump police state than I am so maybe I'm wrong about that too.

    God knows how many women who've previously had abortions of their own just voted against body autonomy for other women.

    I hope poor people get the economic recovery they believe they voted for.

    I'm kind of out of s at this point. Empathy is pretty tiring. Time to relax and take advantage of my white male privilege for a while, y'all can have politics in the meantime.


    What's the point of white male privilege if you don't relax and take advantage of it

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    What's the point of white male privilege if you don't relax and take advantage of it
    Almost inspiring to go buy a red hat and stop giving a about anything

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    LOL still thinking there will be elections again. We lost; it's over; we have a king now.
    Surely you don't actually believe this.

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    I hope I'm the wrong one and we're able to very humanely and with 100% accuracy send millions of undo ented immigrants off to wherever.
    Say it with your chest; ILLEGAL ALIENS!

    Yup. Problem is, my wife and kids are Latin, so even though I present white and get a free pass, there's plenty of people who won't.
    You act like your wife and kid came over illegally. Weird...

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    Almost inspiring to go buy a red hat and stop giving a about anything
    You already own a hat.


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    Surely you don't actually believe this.
    It's hyperbole to the extreme unfortunately. I can certainly agree with you even though we never agree. People are crazy to think otherwise. Case in point, BaselineBum and his dictator/king talk.

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    It's hyperbole to the extreme unfortunately. I can certainly agree with you even though we never agree. People are crazy to think otherwise. Case in point, BaselineBum and his dictator/king talk.
    but it wasnt hyperbole to suggest kamala is a threat to democracy?

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    Say it with your chest; ILLEGAL ALIENS!



    You act like your wife and kid came over illegally. Weird...
    I think the issue is not necessarily that we think Trump is gonna deport our legal relatives/friends/etc. but his rhetoric fans the flames of discrimination towards those groups and emboldens racists to do they otherwise may not have. I don't think every trump supporter is a racist fascist. But I do believe some of them are and some of them will be emboldened by his victory.

    I'm a straight white man so like Spurminator said I can exercise my privilege. But my mom is Mexican. Half my family is Mexican. My grandma doesn't even speak English. God forbid some crusty loser decides he doesn't like hearing an old lady speaking Spanish at the grocery store and decides to do something about it. That's the that concerns me. I don't think it's fair to just brush those feelings aside tbh

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    You act like your wife and kid came over illegally. Weird...
    Great example of the hyperbole that's been activated. It's straight up fascist, bro, when you could theoretically accuse someone of being a and possibly get them on a list to be deported with minimal government oversight, which is exactly what Trump wants. No question. You can deny it but it's a fact. I understand the feeling it won't you affect you/yours, at least in part as a fellow white dude. But I do have close family who could be affected by such craziness, despite being 4th/5th generation Americans bro. It's a slippery slope but hey, it's what Americans, including Latinos, want. Brown people make up the majority of illegals in this country and so a reckoning is in order. I'm dealing with it, and so will everyone who doesn't want to be put on a list.

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    The thought that the Fourth Reich will ever allow a fair election is hilarious.
    That's why I said at least 4 years

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    Great example of the hyperbole that's been activated. It's straight up fascist, bro, when you could theoretically accuse someone of being a and possibly get them on a list to be deported with minimal government oversight, which is exactly what Trump wants. No question. You can deny it but it's a fact. I understand the feeling it won't you affect you/yours, at least in part as a fellow white dude. But I do have close family who could be affected by such craziness, despite being 4th/5th generation Americans bro. It's a slippery slope but hey, it's what Americans, including Latinos, want. Brown people make up the majority of illegals in this country and so a reckoning is in order. I'm dealing with it, and so will everyone who doesn't want to be put on a list.
    Oh you're going on the list. Not the deportation list, white boys like you need the reeducation camp.

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    Oh you're going on the list. Not the deportation list, white boys like you need the reeducation camp.
    Nah, I'm on the 'summarily shot' list.

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    Nah, I'm on the 'summarily shot' list.
    Mexico will pay for the bullet

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    but it wasnt hyperbole to suggest kamala is a threat to democracy?
    She and those behind the scenes controlling her, Biden, and co are a threat to our Republic and we need to eradicate them and their ideology. Sorry but not sorry. They are a true threat to your way of life, mine, and every American here who sees and can't see the forest from the trees.

    I think the issue is not necessarily that we think Trump is gonna deport our legal relatives/friends/etc. but his rhetoric fans the flames of discrimination towards those groups and emboldens racists to do they otherwise may not have. I don't think every trump supporter is a racist fascist. But I do believe some of them are and some of them will be emboldened by his victory.
    It's either we believe we have a country, borders are a thing, or we don't. It's not about emboldening racists to do they otherwise may not have.

    There's going to be racists for as long as humanity is a thing on this Earth, unfortunately. How we deal with such nonsense is pivotal. Growing up in the 90's we made fun of those racists, we joked between races, and no one was easily offended. We need to get back to those days and unite once again.

    I'm a straight white man so like Spurminator said I can exercise my privilege. But my mom is Mexican. Half my family is Mexican. My grandma doesn't even speak English. God forbid some crusty loser decides he doesn't like hearing an old lady speaking Spanish at the grocery store and decides to do something about it. That's the that concerns me. I don't think it's fair to just brush those feelings aside tbh
    Stop putting yourself in a box and labeling yourself this or that for one. Second, I hear, read, your concerns and they'll valid no doubt. You handle the nonsense as it comes but speculating that your grandmother is going to be hunted down is just going to cause you to go mental. It's def concerning and I saw similar when 9/11 happened and my best friend was being accused endlessly of being a terrorist when he's merely a nerdy Jew, from south Texas, with a beard.

    There's no easy answers, bud. We just can't keep going on letting illegals step over our borders and giving them handouts while we neglect our own citizens and their struggle. Same goes for foreign aid. We have to reestablish what we want to be as a whole, and that means left and right, not fringe extremes.

    I hope the best for you and your family Leet. Try to keep your head up and protect your family at all costs.

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    I mean, if you think Dems have it bad, Europe is probably ting bricks right now

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