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    You're absolutely indirectly claiming you're smarter than the pollsters that showed Harris winning. You're not doing victory laps here for nothing, pizza.
    You once again put on full display your complete lack of knowledge on polling. Having an accurate poll isn't dependent on how smart the pollster is. An accurate poll is one that correctly captures the given electorate. It doesn't take a genius to look into the crosstabs of a poll and immediately dismiss it when it sampled D+5 in an R+1 environment. You done embarrassing yourself or are you going to continue flailing around on full tilt?

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    You once again put on full display your complete lack of knowledge on polling. Having an accurate poll isn't dependent on how smart the pollster is. An accurate poll is one that correctly captures the given electorate. It doesn't take a genius to look into the crosstabs of a poll and immediately dismiss it when it sampled D+5 in an R+1 environment. You done embarrassing yourself or are you going to continue flailing around on full tilt?
    Are you smarter than Nate Silver? Yes or no.

    He's a guy you've quoted here. Simple yes or no please. No text wall.

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    It's hilarious that a hack that is into Q took you to the woodshed and embarrassed you EVERY SINGLE TIME you tried to bring up polls this election.
    What's the word for it again? Oh yeah, cognitive dissonance...

    Faux intellectuals like BlaKKKe are a dime a dozen these days unfortunately.

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    Are you smarter than Nate Silver? Yes or no.

    He's a guy you've quoted here. Simple yes or no please. No text wall.
    Look at you trying to straw man your way out of this like a little

    This is about my poll knowledge vs your complete and absolute lack of it.

    Do you think you understand polling better than me? Simple yes or no please. No straw man.

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    Blake are you smarter than Miss Cleo? Yes or no. Simple yes or no please. No text wall.

    LOL The regressives and their "yes or no" bull ...

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    Look at you trying to straw man your way out of this like a little

    This is about my poll knowledge vs your complete and absolute lack of it.

    Do you think you understand polling better than me? Simple yes or no please. No straw man.
    I knew you couldn't do it. Just like you can't admit you have been pro Trump this whole time.


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    Just like you can't admit you have been pro Trump this whole time.
    If he admitted that how would your life change/improve? What's the end goal here? It's weird but you're weird and confused as so...

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    This pussy re will never admit he's been pro republican Trump all along.

    You guys are so weird.

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    I knew you couldn't do it. Just like you can't admit you have been pro Trump this whole time.

    thinking your straw man being ignored is a win
    full tilt

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    I may have missed the fact that Trump is not a fervent supporter of dat jews killing your people tbh...

    also funny to think that muricans have elected a dude who openly declared that he should not have respected democray last election maybe the last time they will vote to elect somebody, not that murican election is democratic anyway, only country in the world where you can win election after loosing the popular vote... other than dictatorships
    as I said

    Same , different folks

    Dems, Reps

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    At least Rosen won her Nevada senate seat and Gallego looks like he’s going to beat Lake

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    At least Rosen won her Nevada senate seat and Gallego looks like he’s going to beat Lake

    Lake
    Trump shoulda stayed out of New York & California and took temporary root here in Arizona for Lake instead. Straining for the popular vote total was wrong and wrong headed. Means nothing.

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    Trump shoulda stayed out of New York & California and took temporary root here in Arizona for Lake instead. Straining for the popular vote total was wrong and wrong headed. Means nothing.
    Trump is ultimately going to win AZ by 6 or 7 and she still can't coattail her way in.

    That means she's just an awful candidate.

    Trump moved the entire country right, cutting large deficits in CA/NY/IL/VA/NJ. Republicans have to learn on how to build on it.

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    Trump is ultimately going to win AZ by 6 or 7 and she still can't coattail her way in.

    That means she's just an awful candidate.

    Trump moved the entire country right, cutting large deficits in CA/NY/IL/VA/NJ. Republicans have to learn on how to build on it.
    That would mean not doing any of the things they are going to do.

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    Trump is ultimately going to win AZ by 6 or 7 and she still can't coattail her way in.

    That means she's just an awful candidate.

    Trump moved the entire country right, cutting large deficits in CA/NY/IL/VA/NJ. Republicans have to learn on how to build on it.
    ...for what, bragging rights on the popular vote? She's close enough to have invested his temporary residency here to see her thru.

    We're never gonna turn those 5 states. It was folly to attempt it---especially if we can't control the House.

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    ...for what, bragging rights on the popular vote? She's close enough to have invested his temporary residency here to see her thru.

    We're never gonna turn those 5 states. It was folly to attempt it---especially if we can't control the House.
    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Florida was a swing state. Now it has evolved into a double digit republican victory.

    Bottom line is that the rust belt usually goes blue, so the GOP needs to expand the map, somewhere.

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    Missouri also voted for abortion rights

    https://x.com/SpeakSamuel/status/1854926543044202798

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    That means she's just an awful candidate.
    She's a try hard unfortunately. From her start into politics she's tried her hardest to imitate Trump's distaste for the MSM but she is the MSM regardless of who she "is" now.

    Never trust Pravda, not even when they claim they've changed and now sporting an (R).

    The alternative sucks too but she's not strong and she was compromised once she registered for "journalism" in college decades ago.

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    it was that or a genocide supporter, aka unconvicted criminal

    Not saying Trump won’t stop selling weapons to those nazis, but the way Pamola Harris was openlly sucking Nazisrael’s during her campaign was disgusting
    Yup

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    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Florida was a swing state. Now it has evolved into a double digit republican victory.

    Bottom line is that the rust belt usually goes blue, so the GOP needs to expand the map, somewhere.
    I think it's reasonable to go full force to try to make Michigan permanently red. It's surrounded geographically by deep red states and literally everywhere in the state except for Grand Rapids and tiny little Traverse City are trending Republican. MI also trended significantly to the right of Wisconsin, which I'm less bullish on long term because conservatives aren't really super enthusiastic to vote there, kind of like Minnesota-junior.

    Pennsylvania will be one that just keeps going back and forth. Shapiro won't lose re-election in 2026. But I think the strategy for the GOP in 2026 should be clear cut, to spend a fortune on Michigan on that open Governor race and flipping that vulnerable Senate seat, and turning that state into the next Ohio which is very very likely given demographic shifts and that most of the rural counties finally zoomed to the right this year. Unlike in Wisconsin where the rurals were largely disappointing for Trump and down ballot.

    2026 is fairly simple: focus on flipping everything in Michigan, focus on flipping Georgia's senate seat (Kemp) and run a strong governor candidate there too... defend Thom Tillis's seat with your life, don't spend too much on Shapiro's race but make sure the in bent house reps there stay safe, spend modestly but appropriately on governor races in Arizona and Wisconsin.

    Really the GOP and Dems each have 2 flip opportunities in the Senate in 2026: Georgia and Michigan for Republicans, and Maine and NC for the Democrats. It's not nearly as complicated a senate map as the other two.

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    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Florida was a swing state. Now it has evolved into a double digit republican victory.

    Bottom line is that the rust belt usually goes blue, so the GOP needs to expand the map, somewhere.
    Florida turned 25 years ago, Dirk.

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    I think it's reasonable to go full force to try to make Michigan permanently red. It's surrounded geographically by deep red states and literally everywhere in the state except for Grand Rapids and tiny little Traverse City are trending Republican. MI also trended significantly to the right of Wisconsin, which I'm less bullish on long term because conservatives aren't really super enthusiastic to vote there, kind of like Minnesota-junior.

    Pennsylvania will be one that just keeps going back and forth. Shapiro won't lose re-election in 2026. But I think the strategy for the GOP in 2026 should be clear cut, to spend a fortune on Michigan on that open Governor race and flipping that vulnerable Senate seat, and turning that state into the next Ohio which is very very likely given demographic shifts and that most of the rural counties finally zoomed to the right this year. Unlike in Wisconsin where the rurals were largely disappointing for Trump and down ballot.

    2026 is fairly simple: focus on flipping everything in Michigan, focus on flipping Georgia's senate seat (Kemp) and run a strong governor candidate there too... defend Thom Tillis's seat with your life, don't spend too much on Shapiro's race but make sure the in bent house reps there stay safe, spend modestly but appropriately on governor races in Arizona and Wisconsin.

    Really the GOP and Dems each have 2 flip opportunities in the Senate in 2026: Georgia and Michigan for Republicans, and Maine and NC for the Democrats. It's not nearly as complicated a senate map as the other two.
    That's it there.

    And this time try and lay an anchor in PA..

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    Florida turned 25 years ago, Dirk.
    No, it turned 6 years ago. The DeSantis/Gollum race was the pivot point.

    That's it there.

    And this time try and lay an anchor in PA..
    It'd be nice to have the ground game to "lay anchor" in PA but it's really hard given that it's such a geographically large state and the population so scattered... though it would be reasonable to try and solidify the NE PA and Lehigh Valley regions, and the areas around Pittsburgh could still get redder, but those high population, college educated diverse suburbs immediately west of Philly (Montgomery, Delaware, and Chester counties) aren't flipping back red.

    PA should be a coin flip kind of state for the foreseeable future.

    It's more practical to be laser focused on the downtrodden, working class suburbs of Michigan from Detroit to Saginaw and everywhere in between. It's possible you can turn that state into the next Missouri. Missouri, officially a pro-choice, $15/hour minimum wage state as of Tuesday. On the same ballot as R+15 for Senate and R+18 for Trump. Dispels the left's narrative about muhbortion being the most important issue of the election, given that Dobbs ruled that it is a Tenth Amendment issue and not an abortion ban.


    Fla got real close to having a crackhead gov
    Yeah exactly, and if he were elected instead of DeSantis, chances are Florida would be on the fast track to becoming what California has become. Instead of R+13 you'd be looking at D+13 or worse this election for Florida. It would be a deep-blue stronghold and make any GOP presidential pathway extremely narrow.
    Last edited by Millennial_Messiah; 11-09-2024 at 07:38 PM.

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    Fla got real close to having a crackhead gov

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    AZ senate race called

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