Post Mortem Thread

[Trainwreck2100]

It’s a testament to how incompetent, ineffective, and impotent the Democratic Party is that it not only lost, but did so in a historic manner, to a convicted felon who ran on a platform of autocracy, horrible economic policy, and sheer stupidity. In this thread let’s post our reasons why the DNC fumbled yet another imminently winnable election.

Mine, in no particular order:

-Re ed economic policy that unnecessarily increased taxes on the non-1% while claiming it only affected the 1%, along with re ation like taxing unrealized gains sprinkled in for good measure
-Not distancing from Biden on key issues *cough*Gaza*cough
-Having absolutely no explanation for tectonic shifts in policy like fracking
-Not pushing the old man out until 100 days from Election Day
-No open primary
-Waltz

Disagree, waltz was at worst a net neutral.

[daslicer]

Like you say, stooping to his level will only make things worse.

Democrat party is without doubt too "centrist" if not outright republican lite... Imo for most Americans though that's not really the problem. The problem is that the other side can paint them out to be "Marxist" "commie"etc etc while doing far worse, and democrats are too stupid to properly cal them out for it. The best example of which is the voter fraud/ stop the steal accusations, while literally plotting to use fake electors to steal the presidency..

The best attacks on trump came from his former staff, generals, Arnold Schwarzenegger, for his coup attempt but they barely got any amplitude, I still can't believe the fake electors scheme got so little coverage.. half the reasons people would give for trump were plainly false (peace candidate! Better economy! Fix immigration!) all of these are objectively not true.

At the end of the day, trump only won when going against women, it may be as simple and stupid as that.

We're left to hope that like last time, most of it was just BS to get votes/money from his marks... But there will be real damage to the judiciary and political parties that will eventually lead to civil war imo...

I'm glad I got the out 21 years ago

Where did you go?

[ElNono]

if we were actually going to pack up and leave i'd probably look to sweden tbh. wife was born there, her parents are still citizens even though they all live here

nato protection as well

I think Mallorca would be nice as well... I still have an Italian passport, tbh, and I could request the company for an internal transfer... I would miss LA though...

Hopefully it doesn't come to that

[spurraider21]

I think Mallorca would be nice as well... I still have an Italian passport, tbh, and I could request the company for an internal transfer... I would miss LA though...

Hopefully it doesn't come to that

Man id be depressed as if it came to something like that. Language barrier and a profession that isn’t easily transferable (unlike wifey)

[ElNono]

Man id be depressed as if it came to something like that. Language barrier and a profession that isn’t easily transferable (unlike wifey)

Don't forget he wanted to buy Greenland, maybe he'll purchase Sweden as well, tbh

[Winehole23]

Aggregate economic statistics don't measure working class pain, and people don't pay "the falling rate of inflation," they pay the inflated shelf price.

The "vibecession" was real and voters were put off by wonkish gaslighting.

Also momentous, "back to normal," and the sunsetting of federal assistance to parents.

[spurraider21]

Obviously you don’t ignore ac ulated inflation but metrics like real wages and spending power specifically account for that as well

[Winehole23]

Obviously you don’t ignore ac ulated inflation but metrics like real wages and spending power specifically account for that as well

Sure, but if wage gains barely outpace inflation, the person is merely treading water; if they recently lost federal assistance for their children the marginal rise in buying power may not be perceptible.

Also, BLS hedonic adjustments are a pack of lies.

Who really believes the price of new cars remained stable for 25 years?

[ChumpDumper]

I guess I understand the anger, but thinking Trump could solve and reverse inflation is simply magical.

[FrostKing]

I guess I understand the anger, but thinking Trump could solve and reverse inflation is simply magical.

I hope he finds a middle ground but ya we are not returning to Pre-Covid levels and some are indenial

[spurraider21]

Sure, but if wage gains barely outpace inflation, the person is merely treading water; if they recently lost federal assistance for their children the marginal rise in buying power may not be perceptible.

Also, BLS hedonic adjustments are a pack of lies.

Who really believes the price of new cars remained stable for 25 years?

[Donald Sterling.]

Resident libcucks doing the doom and gloom thing again a la 2016 Where they act like this is the end for America and they're leaving but would never actually leave.

Grown men acting like hysterical 20 something white women on tik tok. Such a sad group of cucks

[Brazil]

Same reasons Germans elected Hitler tbh... 90 years later nothing changed much.. personality cult, building on fear, national pride, false hope, blame immigrants for all your problems, being the candidate of the people vs. establishment...

[Winehole23]

I guess I understand the anger, but thinking Trump could solve and reverse inflation is simply magical.

It is; the sincere sexism and bigotry didn't hurt either -- people need someone to blame for their troubles. Scapegoating works.

[Winehole23]

Resident libcucks doing the doom and gloom thing again a la 2016 Where they act like this is the end for America and they're leaving but would never actually leave.

Grown men acting like hysterical 20 something white women on tik tok. Such a sad group of cucks

the pussy hats were right -- Donald Trump did take their rights away.

if you think this is 2016 all over again, you haven't been paying attention.

[hater]

Resident libcucks doing the doom and gloom thing again a la 2016 Where they act like this is the end for America and they're leaving but would never actually leave.

Grown men acting like hysterical 20 something white women on tik tok. Such a sad group of cucks

Its very different from 2016 actually

Remember they had the Russiagate BS and were feisty with it

Remember even Chimp changes hisnlogin name to a Russian name
Now if they try it they will be sent to Guantanamo

[baseline bum]

The left understood fine the extent inflation has ed the working class over. The Neolib Democrats are not the ing left.

[Winehole23]

The left understood fine the extent inflation has ed the working class over. The Neolib Democrats are not the ing left.

I agree

One of the main functions of the Democratic Party is to protect national politics from the left.

[Thread]

Same reasons Germans elected Hitler tbh... 90 years later nothing changed much.. personality cult, building on fear, national pride, false hope, blame immigrants for all your problems, being the candidate of the people vs. establishment...

...paying for the health-care/FULL RIDE of millions of Nazi's living in Ukraine.

[ChumpDumper]

I hope he finds a middle ground but ya we are not returning to Pre-Covid levels and some are indenial

The hard work has already been done and is nearly complete. Lots of people who haven't paid attention will think it is indeed magic next quarter.

[Winehole23]

It's been pointed out elsewhere, but Trump was able to scoop uncommitteds at the end by pretending to be antiwar. Reportedly, about 60% of those were susceptible to an antiwar message, and they broke hard for Trump at the end.

Team Harris probably left a lot of votes on the table by failing to create any daylight between Harris and Biden with regard to US support for wars in Ukraine and Gaza/Lebanon.

[Winehole23]

It's absolutely correct that the right wing media silo has deluded people about current trends in crime; I disagree that this is true about the economy. Official inflation measures are a bit more squirrelly compared to ground level experience.

Remember, CPI excludes things that people must spend money for, like food, fuel and housing.

[hater]

Called it

[Winehole23]

Not sure where these figures are from, but if they're anywhere close to correct, stiff-arming Arab-Americans upset over US support for ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing in Gaza was a big mistake.

The polling that says Harris could have made similar inroads in PA without losing many votes has been out there for months.

Wisconsin
Trump margin: 29,634
Uncommitted: 48,373

Michigan
Trump margin: 81,750
Uncommitted: 101,623

[hater]

Not sure where these figures are from, but if they're anywhere close to correct, stiff-arming Arab-Americans upset over US support for ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing in Gaza was a big mistake.

The polling that says Harris could have made similar inroads in PA without losing many votes has been out there for months.

Genocides have can consequences