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    Big year for Vassell coming up - he went from a Middleton trajectory to a Lavine trajectory and that drop-off is exclusively due to his nosediving defense. Needs to reverse that if he wants to be anything more than an empty calories volume scorer and be viewed as a core piece going forward.



    This is surprising. EPM on the other hand showed Vassell quite favourably.

    O-EPM of 0.9 (82nd percentile) and D-EPM of 0.4 (72nd percentile). Overall he was the 94th in combined EPM in the league.

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    Interesting. What are these Darko DPM graphs?

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    Actually Devin Vassell's D has improved dramatically this season.
    In what aspect?

    (I'm not being sarcastic, I didn't watch the Spurs/NBA the last 3-4 seasons)

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    So Darko metrics don't assess whether a European player is vastly overrated in the draft? Interesting.

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    He's working on his game while Hali working on his leg and bad back...that back may be chronic

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    Trade him now

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    In what aspect?

    (I'm not being sarcastic, I didn't watch the Spurs/NBA the last 3-4 seasons)
    Actual D.. Of course, I am starting from the fact that IMO last year he was one of the worst defenders in the league, so him improving isn't saying much, but this year he has been an actual impact defender in transition, a half decent coverage 3 switcher and hardly ever jumped on pump fakes. First half of the season was rough, but the second half him and sochan were working really well.

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    This is surprising. EPM on the other hand showed Vassell quite favourably.

    O-EPM of 0.9 (82nd percentile) and D-EPM of 0.4 (72nd percentile). Overall he was the 94th in combined EPM in the league.
    You're right that is unusual that there would be such as discrepancy, as both are based on RAPM. Just looking briefly at the two, one thing that I've noticed is that DARKO tends to favor Wemby much more favorably, as it ranks as a borderline top 5 player ahead of Luka and SGA whereas EPM ranks Wemby around 25, which may be a little low but closer to where I would have ranked him this year. That being said, DARKO tends to more heavily weight more recent performances so this may explain some of the discrepancy. I'm going to chalk Vassell's performance last year up to having trouble adjusting to a different role on offense, which is why I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see where the trend line goes over the next year.

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    Perhaps a return for Thursday the Portland game or Saturday against the Jazz?? Let's hope so!


    https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...one-more-game/

    Vassell (foot) isn't expected to return during the team's current road trip, Paul Garcia of ProjectSpurs.com reports.

    Spurs assistant coach Mitch Johnson noted that Vassell is ramping up his activity, but he doesn't expect the 24-year-old to be able to go for the final game of the road trip Wednesday in Houston. The team could have more information on a timetable for his return within the next few days. Expect Stephon Castle and Malaki Branham to continue to see opportunities until Vassell is cleared.

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    Glad he is on the way back, but I don’t think he is the single solution to our offensive woes that folks are thinking.

    The fact is, our offense has structural problems that are just as big, if not bigger, than talent problems. There is no structure, no movement, no tactical organization. Adding Vassell to that mix just means that he’ll do what he did last year: play iso ball, dribble himself into difficult shots, which he’ll impressively make at a high clip. He will provide some scoring, but I don’t think it will make our offense all that more efficient. It isn’t going to clean up CP3 slowly bringing the ball up past half court, it isn’t going to stop Wemby from jacking up early 30 footers, it isn’t going to suddenly inject movement into these other clowns.

    For as much as the Spurs lack talent, and Devin increases the talent level on the floor every minute he is on it, we lack iden y and organization on offense.

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    I would trade Vassell for a future FRP from Indy.

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    with how Wemby is currently playing, he's our best player. Can't wait to have him back.

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    Glad he is on the way back, but I don’t think he is the single solution to our offensive woes that folks are thinking.

    The fact is, our offense has structural problems that are just as big, if not bigger, than talent problems. There is no structure, no movement, no tactical organization. Adding Vassell to that mix just means that he’ll do what he did last year: play iso ball, dribble himself into difficult shots, which he’ll impressively make at a high clip. He will provide some scoring, but I don’t think it will make our offense all that more efficient. It isn’t going to clean up CP3 slowly bringing the ball up past half court, it isn’t going to stop Wemby from jacking up early 30 footers, it isn’t going to suddenly inject movement into these other clowns.

    For as much as the Spurs lack talent, and Devin increases the talent level on the floor every minute he is on it, we lack iden y and organization on offense.
    The problem is that movement doesn't do that much without spacing.
    Right now Champagnie is our only actual shooter who moves around the floor, has screens set for him and is able to hit those shots off curls.
    Everyone else is a stationary shooter. They wait for the ball and shoot if they're wide open.
    I guess CP3 can pull up off the dribble, but he's not doing it often.

    Devin isn't a superstar, but he'll look like one compared to his teammates' scoring potential when he's back to full form.

    The most infuriating thing for me is how every team has at least a couple of scrubs off the bench who aren't even regular rotation members but can come in, jack up a couple of shots and stay on the floor if they get hot.
    Meanwhile if our couple of 3pt shooters aren't hitting their shots, we might aswell just leave the game because we're not winning it.
    That Wells kid Grizzlies took with 39th pick had 5-7 from 3pt against the Lakers last night. Spurs scouting doesn't seem to be capable of finding those players anymore.
    He's also 6'7, not a traffic cone.

    I'm all for picking someone like Castle and working on his shot because he has high upside.
    But constantly picking second rounders and late FRPs that can't shoot is ing annoying, tbh.

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    Thank ing goodness

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    while sochan is out, a lineup of Paul/Vassell/Champagnie/Barnes/Wemby would actually have terrific spacing, but then the bench unit of Castle/Branham/Keldon/Mamu/Collins would continue to be very poor

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    while sochan is out, a lineup of Paul/Vassell/Champagnie/Barnes/Wemby would actually have terrific spacing, but then the bench unit of Castle/Branham/Keldon/Mamu/Collins would continue to be very poor
    Step 1: Play Bassey instead of Collins.
    Step 2: Stagger minutes so 2 of CP3/Devin/Champ/Barnes are always on the floor.
    Step 3: Functional spacing.

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    the Devin/Wemby pick & roll was actually our best play last season. Let's hope he can get Wemby going. He's been on record saying that he worked on his playmaking in the pick & roll during the offseason, so I'm curious if there's some real improvement in that area of his game. The way Pop played them one of Devin or Wemby was always out there with the bench. I expect that to be the case this time around as well.

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    I suspect he will be rusty. I can see the frustration on his face from the sidelines and I hope he eases into things. He was very efficient last year but there is lots of room for him on this current roster to go full chucker.

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    Devin should open up the lane for Vassell. And with Champ hopefully knocking shots, it would make easier for Wemby to score and vise versa. It’s good spacing. Then stagger Castle and Keldon to play with shooters so they can attack the rim. Let’s see.

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    Devin should open up the lane for Vassell. And with Champ hopefully knocking shots, it would make easier for Wemby to score and vise versa. It’s good spacing. Then stagger Castle and Keldon to play with shooters so they can attack the rim. Let’s see.
    Huge, if true

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    Devin should open up the lane for Vassell. And with Champ hopefully knocking shots, it would make easier for Wemby to score and vise versa. It’s good spacing. Then stagger Castle and Keldon to play with shooters so they can attack the rim. Let’s see.
    I still think biggest beneficiaries of his return would be Blake and Wesley.

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    Lol I meant Wemby should be getting more open shots.

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    I wonder if they bring Devin off the bench for the first few games back tbh.

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