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That makes 2 of us who want to see him exceed expectations and clean up on accolades.
wemby had cp3 now but he regressed instead of making huge leap.Couldn't watch this one because I was on a flight that originated from Seattle and apparently Blazers games get blacked out on League Pass there
Will have to watch the Full Game recap but sounds like Wemby looked bad again. Really quite concerning. This is why I didn't want to just go tank mode for his first few seasons... his development would be greatly aided by some good professionals around him. Cedi Osman, Grandpa CP3 and Harry Barnes don't really cut it.
DRob had TC. Timmy had DRob. Tony and Manu had Timmy. Neph had Tony and Manu and Timmy... Wemby has... Zach Collins?
That makes 2 of us who want to see him exceed expectations and clean up on accolades.
Uh if youre saying CP3 had a bad game tonight based on the box score, then that’s unfounded. He took a major backseat tonight to Castle and played mostly off guard. Like, he immediately passed it to Castle if he was at full court and he had a spot up role. Dude was in teaching mode tonight likely because he knew the Blazers weren’t all that.Couldn't watch this one because I was on a flight that originated from Seattle and apparently Blazers games get blacked out on League Pass there
Will have to watch the Full Game recap but sounds like Wemby looked bad again. Really quite concerning. This is why I didn't want to just go tank mode for his first few seasons... his development would be greatly aided by some good professionals around him. Cedi Osman, Grandpa CP3 and Harry Barnes don't really cut it.
DRob had TC. Timmy had DRob. Tony and Manu had Timmy. Neph had Tony and Manu and Timmy... Wemby has... Zach Collins?
- Terry mings stats DRob's rookie year: 22.4 ppg, 8.4 rpg. TC was an All Star and All NBA third-teamer the year before
- David Robinson stats Timmy's rookie year: 21.6 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 2.6 bpg. 7th in MVP voting, 3rd in DPOY voting, All Star, All NBA Second Team.
- Tim Duncan stats during Tony's rookie year: 25.5 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 2.5 bpg, NBA MVP, All Star. All NBA First Team.
- Tim Duncan stats during Manu's rookie year: 23.3 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 2.9 bpg, NBA MVP, All Star, All NBA First Team, 4th in DPOY voting
- Tim Duncan stats during Nephew's rookie year: 15.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 14th in MVP voting
- Tony Parker stats during Nephew's rookie year: 18.3 ppg, 7.7 apg, 5th in MVP voting, All Star, All NBA Second Team
- Manu Ginobili stats during Nephew's rookie year: 12.9 ppg, 4.4 apg, 3.4 rpg, 5th in 6MOY voting. Previous season: 8th in MVP voting, All Star, All NBA 3rd Team
- Chris Paul stats during Wemby's rookie year: 9.2 ppg, 6.8 apg, 3.6 rpg, not on Wemby's team
One of these is not like the others.
I never said that... and honestly I don't see how you can think I was inferring that, since I didn't even bring up CP3 in the context of tonight's game (that I didn't watch) at all?
Eh, then I don’t see how a comment like him not being a good professional for Wemby is made. CP has performed at a level that’s far better than anyone expected from him at his age and he’s always seen trying to mentor the kids out there. Seemed unnecessary to call him grandpa as a slight when he’s been one of our best players.
A lot is said about what CP3 did for SGA in a mentor role... but CP3 was also an All-Star, All NBA 2nd Team, 7th in MVP voting player that year he acted as SGA's mentor.
Granted, those players to grow on trees... but it would be nice if we would have made some effort to get a player of that caliber on the team to help Wemby grow on and off the court. Probably not an MVP Top-10 player, but at least someone playing at a very high level more recently. This is what myself, and a few others, had been calling for. But instead we decided to play the Tank Game and now our Superstar is regressing into a low efficiency chucker.
It's not that CP3 isn't professional... its that he's no longer good. He wouldn't start for any contending team (which is how we signed him to begin with).
Being one of our best players isn't the quite the accomplishment it sounds like.CP has performed at a level that’s far better than anyone expected from him at his age and he’s always seen trying to mentor the kids out there. Seemed unnecessary to call him grandpa as a slight when he’s been one of our best players.
Calling him grandpa isn't a slight... it's an acknowledgement of where he's at in his career. He may be over achieving for a 39 year old, but that's not really the point. He's not Prime CP3 or even the CP3 that mentored SGA. My point is that it would have been helpful to have a high caliber player in their prime, just like every other Spurs Legend (plus Nephew) has had.
Devin Vassell's stats during Wemby's rookie year: 19.5 PPG, 4.1 APG 3.8 RPG
what exactly is your point here?
scott is throwing a dart at the wrong problem. Funny thing is I know what his real problem is and I agree with THAT point. The causation correlation is way off here
Are you saying Spurs don't care about their franchise player's ambition and individual goals he expressed multiple times publically?
Interesting...
Let's make the team the least possibly attractive to top players, what a great strategy
"Come to SA and we'll make you get over yourself!"
I said it during the game and I repeat it again...
Cp3 just CAN'T play the P&R anymore bc he doesn't have the legs to do it. he can only QB the offense from the perimeter and shoot 3s
We were all wrong and binging him was a terible idea for the team and even worse for Wemby who not only doesn't do any P&R but has his playmaking taken away by Cp
yeah this way of thinking is ridiculous! spurs way or spurs culture or whatever they call it!Are you saying Spurs don't care about their franchise player's ambition and individual goals he expressed multiple times publically?
Interesting...
Let's make the team the least possibly attractive to top players, what a great strategy
"Come to SA and we'll make you get over yourself!"
if the team continues to treat wemby like how they do right now the wemby should ask for a trade after his rookie contract or go elsewhere.
Pick and roll IS a perimeter play. They've been running it. What are you talking about?
I'll remain a Spurs fan for life anyways, but I really think Wemby is in a terrible situation for a while between the ty roster and now Pop being sick...
The Spurs would be in a better situation with a more taditional profile to develop, Wemby requires higher IQ and passing abilities to develop his game. He can't be used to develop guys like Keldon Champ Brahman etc
As crazy as it sounds, Spurs should trade him NOW to get the most
You've been acting like a complete re for weeks now.
Idk what happened, from what I remember you were a good poster over the past years, but right now you're completely off the rails.
Is it even the same person posting from that account?
Sure, find me a play with Wemby rolling .... and being assisted for an easy bucket
When Wemby rolls he's used as a decoy and it ends up with a pass for a corner 3, (taken even with hand in the face instead of a simple triangle bc Champ or Keldon have low BBIQ)
Cp can't penetrate anymore, he does it once or twice when he's fresh in 1st hals and that's it. est of the game he's beyond the 3pt line 80% of the time
I guess you must be hurting to chose to attack me rather than the point a made. I get it...
If you take a step back and stop taking stuff personnaly, you'd get it maybe or we could exchange arguments. It's up to you mate
Which ing point? You and some other posters have been repeating the same thing over and over again for weeks, going all the way into complete nonsense takes.
Like what's there to exchange with someone who wrote that Spurs should trade Wemby multiple times? I've got no motivation for arguments with someone in such mental state.
If you want to exchange arguments, I just wrote a long post in scott's topic how Spurs failed Wemby.
I don’t know how you’re a Spurs fan but that’s still new to youAre you saying Spurs don't care about their franchise player's ambition and individual goals he expressed multiple times publically?
Interesting...
Let's make the team the least possibly attractive to top players, what a great strategy
"Come to SA and we'll make you get over yourself!"
But maybe the Big 3 didn’t like playing for the Spurs because they only kept houses in San Antonio, including DRob, Sean, and the rest who remained with the Spurs community after retirement. I’m sure players like Melo, Barkeley who has all the accolades are satisfied without a ring.
Wemby unlike you is very smart. He knows the Spurs has his best interest. And they helped him secure ROTY and in contention for DPOY which he should’ve won. Pop played him enough and help him get in the position to win for his legacy, but keeping a watchful eye while he slowly adapts to the NBA. I will believe other experts than you who all says that Wemby landed in the best possible position with Pop, who has no pressure (and doesn’t care about the media and all) but will make sure to slowly build Wemby up.
Wemby is an anomaly at 7’6 with all the skills that he has. People cannot just fairly compare him to LeBron James or other NBA greats who has NBA-ready body, whose path to greatness can easily patterned to other past great players. Wemby is a stick. He cannot be even compared to KD or Giannis, Nowitzki, Porzingis or even Manute Bol. He has different body structure with his advanced skill sets. Maybe the closest comparison is Porzingis who unfortunately got injured which derailed his career and was lucky to be playing again. He too was a unicorn. Spurs can learn from that mistake.
I think the Spurs are letting him shoot from the perimeter, then possibly exploiting the open lane created with a Sochan attacking the rim, contrary to your expert Kryptonite analysis
your takes are getting dumber by the day
If you want me to take u seriously, pls start by not putting words I never said in my mouth.
The last time I suggested the idea was last season after the 1st month bc not only his teammates seemed either incapable or unwilling to find/look for him on the floor but Pop didn't seem to care either.
Keep in mind my point is the best interest of BOTH sides, I'm not just defending Wemby
I'm a Spurs fan 1st and forrmost and I realise that PATFO isn't the one it was even a decade ago and life is cyclical. Spurs need a more traditional type of Fanchise player, Wemby is an experimental one who seems to be stubborn at the idea to be different and it makes it even more challenging than it should be.
What makes it even more impossible is that they surrounded him FOR THE 2ND SEASON with the weakest BBIQ of the league, adding 2 high ones but with 40yo legs
Now it gets even worse bc Pop is out and can't manage the lockerroom and Mitch CLEARLY dgaf about Wemby ("he needs to figure it out"
Just imagine what we could get for Wemby NOW with the best draft in years coming...
I love you too hon xx
this is exactly why some of us were saying that we need a PG with speed and handles who can pull up from 3, get in the lane, suck in the defense and generate open shots, which is why some of us wanted to draft Dillingham at #8 or trade for Garland. The only person on this roster that can do that is Blake Wesley. Unfortunately aside from being fast he has no other offensive skill.
I got you all triggered...
Just take a deep breathing guys, it's just basketball
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