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    Him having no stamina last season had to be expected since he's played a lot less games in france. This season though there's no excuse. He ran the court harder at this time last season to establish position near the basket. This season he's gassed. He's the only player on the team asking to get subbed out after playing 6 minutes. Sean even mentioned it and when the Blazers got to the rim on the last posession he didn't even bother to contest cause he was tired. This happened in damn near every game so far. A rookie like Castle played 10 minutes without any issues. If you're talking about wanting to win rings ASAP you better come into the season with proper conditioning. With how smart he thinks he is he still has a lot to learn about being a professional NBA player.
    There are still coaches thinking a player can get conditioning just by playing his sport. It is not the case. If they knew he had problem there plus he is weak. It should to be addressed. He got bit stronger but not enough. Being stronger also gives you more conditioning. But you have to do it.

    It is early in the season and he might be getting into refreshing stadium but tbh I do agree- they did not did a good job in that departement/ conditioning/

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    He seemed to be in tip top form at the Olympics. How out of shape can a 20 year old with almost zero body fat get in 10 weeks?

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    I wonder if between Olympics and start of season he was told to rest more than a typical offseason to decrease his overall load over the Summer. Has no one in the media asked him about his training during that timeline?

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    They should compare it to his last 8 games of last year.
    24.4 ppg, 11.8 rebounds, 4.5 blocks, 47/33/79
    I get it, but disagree. Start of a new season, new rhythm, new players. Not to mention Olympics over the Summer and he’s in a sop re slump of overthinking.

    Everyone calm down, he will work through his cardio and mental in due time.

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    I get it, but disagree. Start of a new season, new rhythm, new players. Not to mention Olympics over the Summer and he’s in a sop re slump of overthinking.

    Everyone calm down, he will work through his cardio and mental in due time.
    Listen to this man.

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    Him having no stamina last season had to be expected since he's played a lot less games in france. This season though there's no excuse. He ran the court harder at this time last season to establish position near the basket. This season he's gassed. He's the only player on the team asking to get subbed out after playing 6 minutes. Sean even mentioned it and when the Blazers got to the rim on the last posession he didn't even bother to contest cause he was tired. This happened in damn near every game so far. A rookie like Castle played 10 minutes without any issues. If you're talking about wanting to win rings ASAP you better come into the season with proper conditioning. With how smart he thinks he is he still has a lot to learn about being a professional NBA player.

    Is there a way to get the data on the distance covered by a player/game?

    Maybe there's an answer there... (just wondering)

    In any case it can't be just that, I'm not defending him, I think he's still a kid in many aspects despite his precocity in others, but he's being put in terrible situations by his coach and teammates and they dgaf seing how happy they were after the game.

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    Is there a way to get the data on the distance covered by a player/game?

    Maybe there's an answer there... (just wondering)

    In any case it can't be just that, I'm not defending him, I think he's still a kid in many aspects despite his precocity in others, but he's being put in terrible situations by his coach and teammates and they dgaf seing how happy they were after the game.
    add to that that we are playing at a significantly slower pace. Last years team was running up and down the court a lot more.

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    He seemed to be in tip top form at the Olympics. How out of shape can a 20 year old with almost zero body fat get in 10 weeks?
    That's just not a causation at all.

    Try to find a lond summary of the last game and watch it X2 speed, Wemby is all over the place, up and down the 3pt line on D all the time. it's a game plan to tire him up and makes everything he does difficult by opp coaches.

    AND HE GETS ZERO HELP FROM HIS OWN TEAM(MATES)

    But ST prefers ting on him

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    add to that that we are playing at a significantly slower pace. Last years team was running up and down the court a lot more.
    It's not the offense that tires him up, that part frustrates him.

    It's the defense and opp coaches game plan to tire him up as much as possible that kills him.

    They make him purposely go baseline/3pts line as much as possible

    Ime or Billups yesterday didn't hide it. ST just chooses to ignore it

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    It's not the offense that tires him up, that part frustrates him.

    It's the defense and opp coaches game plan to tire him up as much as possible that kills him.

    They make him purposely go baseline/3pts line as much as possible

    Ime or Billups yesterday didn't hide it. ST just chooses to ignore it
    Boo in hoo


    And they are making Harden go right


    Those coaches of other teams have gameplans! OMG how dare they?

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    Grant frickin touched his jersey and Wemby fell.

    Showing weakness instead of strength

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    wemby was flopping and he managed to get a t on grant out of it. he has already become CP III's Padawan.

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    Boo in hoo


    And they are making Harden go right


    Those coaches of other teams have gameplans! OMG how dare they?
    Not sure why you think I'm defending him in any way bro...

    I'm just stating facts and a huge difference with last season where teams where discovering him, they have the blue-print now, of course he needs to adapt.

    If we're analysing and trying to understand why he seems to often out of breath or having less juice, it's kind of a rational explanation to me. Among others.

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    wemby was flopping and he managed to get a t on grant out of it. he has already become CP III's Padawan.
    That action was so embarassing tbh

    Either he flopped or tried a charge, either way a stupid decision

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    That action was so embarassing tbh

    Either he flopped or tried a charge, either way a stupid decision
    he didn't try a charge. i was about twenty yards away from it. grant kept shoving him before the inbounds pass. when he would lean back on grant, grant would pull the chair. then they got chippy with each other but grant started to pull on his shoulder. that's when he got teed up. the ref had already warned the both of them.

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    he didn't try a charge. i was about twenty yards away from it. grant kept shoving him before the inbounds pass. when he would lean back on grant, grant would pull the chair. then they got chippy with each other but grant started to pull on his shoulder. that's when he got teed up. the ref had already warned the both of them.
    Oh u were a the game...

    Did you have a good view of the bench? Any body-language or interraction you noticed?

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    he didn't try a charge. i was about twenty yards away from it. grant kept shoving him before the inbounds pass. when he would lean back on grant, grant would pull the chair. then they got chippy with each other but grant started to pull on his shoulder. that's when he got teed up. the ref had already warned the both of them.
    Dude I was 2 feet away looking at the tv

    Grant fouled him later when he pushed him of the area. On perimeter that was illegal contact.

    But those two times Wemby just threw himself on the floor? wtf? weak ass flop.

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    Not sure why you think I'm defending him in any way bro...

    I'm just stating facts and a huge difference with last season where teams where discovering him, they have the blue-print now, of course he needs to adapt.

    If we're analysing and trying to understand why he seems to often out of breath or having less juice, it's kind of a rational explanation to me. Among others.
    I think the blue-print was kinda obvious from the get go. At least since they saw him not standing his ground and float behind 3pt lane.

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    I get it, but disagree. Start of a new season, new rhythm, new players. Not to mention Olympics over the Summer and he’s in a sop re slump of overthinking.

    Everyone calm down, he will work through his cardio and mental in due time.
    Preach!

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    Oh u were a the game...

    Did you have a good view of the bench? Any body-language or interraction you noticed?
    i was behind the basket, about ten rows back. the portland bench was closest to the side i was on. when this happened, it was on my side of the court so that is why i had such a good view and could hear the ref warning wemby and grant to cut it out.

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    Dude I was 2 feet away looking at the tv

    Grant fouled him later when he pushed him of the area. On perimeter that was illegal contact.

    But those two times Wemby just threw himself on the floor? wtf? weak ass flop.
    i've seen plenty of games on tv and plenty in person. it's a whole different perspective up front and live, and in three dimensions. it also helps to hear the players, refs and coaches. i've also seen a lot of flops over the years.

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    has anybody here even paid attention that this guy is completely out of shape? Watch him at the 7 minute mark of 1st and 3rd quarters. He's tired after 5 minutes of play, even when a time out is called in between it. Meanwhile a rookie like Castle and Champagnie play 10 minute stints.

    At the 8 minute mark of the 3rd quarter Wemby breaks up a lob by the Blazers. The Spurs run in transition, swing the ball around, Champagnie misses a corner 3. Spurs get the offensive board and Barnes shoots a 3. Only then does Wemby arrive at the other end of the court. With 5 minutes left in the quarter Wemby asks for a sub.

    This guy has not worked on his conditioning in the offseason. It's not coaching, it's not Sochan or Castle, it's him being completely out of shape that's the main issue.
    Maybe he is starting to like American women.

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    wemby was flopping and he managed to get a t on grant out of it. he has already become CP III's Padawan.
    It actually wasn’t a T, it was a foul before the inbounds, which is one FT, dead ball, and possession of the ball.

    What pissed me off was that they essentially gave him two warnings before calling a painfully obvious foul.

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    i was behind the basket, about ten rows back. the portland bench was closest to the side i was on. when this happened, it was on my side of the court so that is why i had such a good view and could hear the ref warning wemby and grant to cut it out.
    10 rows back yhm

    Everybody watching tv saw a ref telling them to cut it out

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    It's not the offense that tires him up, that part frustrates him.

    It's the defense and opp coaches game plan to tire him up as much as possible that kills him.

    They make him purposely go baseline/3pts line as much as possible

    Ime or Billups yesterday didn't hide it. ST just chooses to ignore it
    well if that’s the case, wait til he makes the playoffs and teams put a real game plan together. He gon ask for sub 3 minutes into the first quarter

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