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Imo mostly (bad) luck, but there's a trend with poster dunks that is maybe no stranger to this ecatombe, the spacing creates a lot of opportunities.
Goddamn man let's not count our chickens.
I don't know Chet's prep routine but Vic's is pretty famous already. As for gameplay, Chet seems to go up for full-body contact blocks more than Wemby, who uses his extraordinary length. When Vic's making blocks he's not often making a ton of body contact, which bodes well.
Imo mostly (bad) luck, but there's a trend with poster dunks that is maybe no stranger to this ecatombe, the spacing creates a lot of opportunities.
Good point.
definitely not. He’s not even top 10 right now and 3 rings wouldn’t make him surpass Timmy
Sucks for Chet tbh.
Hip injuries are no joke especially for athletes. Hope it doesn't come affect him long term career wise, I like the kid's game tbh.
But these types of injuries with that body type, Porzingis’, is what Spurs would caution Wemby on his development. People are out there to test Wemby every time, and Wemby before has that tendency to jump on fakes.
Hope this is just a minor set back for Chet in the grand scheme of things. Chet v. Wemby is the rivalry for the next decade I want to see play out even though it will naturally result in some disappointments from time to time for us Spurs fans (like all rivalries do)
Chet vs Wemby can be a rivalry only if OKC has a way better team.
Comparing the two of them would be similar to those dumb narratives mainstream media tried to push when Suns were contending about how Stoudemire caught up with Duncan and that they're on the same level.
I'll just say, I don't think Wemby has earned this assumption quite yet.
He was clearly a tier above last season, I'm not going to take it away from him based on a handful of games.
Chet has no self-creation, he'll never be a first option on a contender.
(in before you say Wemby doesn't, either)
Yes, Wemby is a better individual player but I don't think he's SO MUCH better than Chet to say that the only way these two can have a rivalry is for OKC to be a way better team. In fact it won't be much of a rivalry at all if they are contenders and we're perennial losers.
I expect some great battles between these two for years to come. Hopefully our team improves to the level where they aren't just individual battles and these two are competing at the top of the standings. I'd compare it more to the Duncan-Dirk rivalry, where Duncan is clearly the superior player (and thankfully we were usually the superior team).
Replace current Chet with current Wemby and OKC gets better, easily.
The only thing Chet has over him is 3pt shooting, but 3pts he takes are way higher quality shots.
Agreed that it won't be a rivalry if PATFO don't get over themselves.
Dirk and KG were MVPs, deservedly so.I expect some great battles between these two for years to come. Hopefully our team improves to the level where they aren't just individual battles and these two are competing at the top of the standings. I'd compare it more to the Duncan-Dirk rivalry, where Duncan is clearly the superior player (and thankfully we were usually the superior team).
Do you think Chet can win an MVP? To me it doesn't look like he even has AD's ceiling and AD was never on Dirk/KG level just because of that lack of self-creation.
OKC coaching, development, and FO is so much better than the current Spurs iteration.
Give Wemby all that and there wouldn't even be a discussion on who the superior player is between him and Chet tbh.
Chet is like option 3 on that team. Swap the two, and Wemby gets a ring last year. That’s how much better Chet’s support system is.
What are you even arguing about man? I want to see those two go at each other for years to come. Why does this require putting down Chet, lol
I just dislike rivalry narratives when one player is clearly better than the other.
I'm not putting down Chet, he'll be an all-nba player, I just don't think he's got "regular" MVP level potential, while Wemby is obviously projected to win a handful MVPs.
When media creates those narratives, it's usually a disservice to the worse player and they eventually get underrated because they're compared against someone they couldn't have competed against.
Kind of how Barkley and Malone got lost in history just because they were up against MJ.
That's just kind of the way it goes though. If you had a way of putting a numerical value on player stature, and then plotted out the values of every player, it would be an exponential curve.
Here is where we are both on the same page... PAFTO needs to get over themselves
Just for fun I googled "Best players on bad nba teams" and this came up: https://hoopshype.com/lists/greatest...ery-bad-teams/ - Wemby listed second on "The greatest NBA players ever on very, very bad teams"
There's a discussion on realgm about who is frontrunning DPOY. Argues that it should be Chet, then mentions that 11 of the top 13 players in the defensive metrics are OKC players.
Like... how does that make sense?
It's a hard award to give. But when a player is clearly within a system with very high defenders, doesn't that make his impact less impressive? Thunder funnel a lot of things into him and he cleans up a lot of stuff, but doesn't that overrate him?
Victor is trouncing everyone else in that poll though so at least most people seem to grasp that Chet, while a great defender in his own right, is clearly benefitting playing next to a bunch of other A+ defenders when all Wemby has is...56 year old Chris Paul and an injured Sochan
Always going to be a natural bias towards players on good teams for individual awards, right or wrong.
I don't watch enough games of other teams to compare, but just the way Wemby impacts the opposing offense when they come into his vicinity is GOAT level. And now he's putting up multiple 5+ block games... will be a fun chase to finish the season at over 4 bpg (where he sits today before the Kings game).
He's also top 10 in Deflections/Game which is not normally a big man stat. Wemby and Jokic are the only bigs in the top 10 so far this year.
Wemby is far and away above everyone else in Stocks at 5.3. Dyson Daniels is #2 at 4.11 and then Chet is #3 at 3.4. Wemby also has multiple double digit Stock games so far this year... just insane.
Of course these are all counting stats, but you can see it the way he impact the game, and the Spurs are actually a decent defensive team this year, #11 in DRTG... but considerably behind OKC @ #1. We'll see what happens to their D without Chet.
Admittedly I don't watch the Thunder, they don't interest me, but there's so many times a player will go into the lane near Wemby and change his mind. The times he can get blocks seem to be players forgetting what they're doing and actually trying him. The league is ridiculous in how players can still score over him at times, but often they know there's no chance.
If deterrents per game was an actual stat, Wemby would lead the league by a wide wide wide margin
Vs Jazz when Wemby blocked it, fell out of bounds, then got back up, got back into the play in a nick of time and and blocked another shot to save the play yet again, he won DPOY in my heart already
With Chet out, if OKC defense is still elite and doesn't worsen, I imagine that could take away from Chet's DPOY argument.
He’s not going to make 65 games played.
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