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[Pauleta14]

Nets keep being surpising, they're really deep with always 5-6 players in dble digits

Weren't they supposed to go for Flagg?

[objective]

Listened to the most recent Big Red Bus podcast, episode 187, it's a bulls show. There's a lengthy segment on Buzelis who's been up and down to the G-league.

Around the 22:30 mark it starts. The 2 hosts, having just attended a bulls game together, really went in hard in roasting Buzelis.

Called him the worst player on the roster, emphasizing how bad that is on this roster, with fringe NBA players kicking his ass. Refer to his game using words like "abomination" and tore into his pregame work as goofing off and not being serious. Pregame prep, "a total embarrassment" compared to the vets pregame routines. Given a High probability of being a bust, can't shoot, can't defend. Getting outplayed by every other scrub on the roster. Doesn't deserve NBA minutes.

Ouch

[exstatic]

Listened to the most recent Big Red Bus podcast, episode 187, it's a bulls show. There's a lengthy segment on Buzelis who's been up and down to the G-league.

Around the 22:30 mark it starts. The 2 hosts, having just attended a bulls game together, really went in hard in roasting Buzelis.

Called him the worst player on the roster, emphasizing how bad that is on this roster, with fringe NBA players kicking his ass. Refer to his game using words like "abomination" and tore into his pregame work as goofing off and not being serious. Pregame prep, "a total embarrassment" compared to the vets pregame routines. Given a High probability of being a bust, can't shoot, can't defend. Getting outplayed by every other scrub on the roster. Doesn't deserve NBA minutes.

Ouch

There’s a reason that the Ignite is no more. The best player ever to come out of the Ignite is Jalen Green, and he’s just a show pony version of Lonnie Walker.

[LeBowen]

There’s a reason that the Ignite is no more. The best player ever to come out of the Ignite is Jalen Green, and he’s just a show pony version of Lonnie Walker.

Holland not doing much better.
4 assists, 7 turnovers, 4-26 from 3PT in 158 minutes played.

[Mr. Body]

Listened to the most recent Big Red Bus podcast, episode 187, it's a bulls show. There's a lengthy segment on Buzelis who's been up and down to the G-league.

Around the 22:30 mark it starts. The 2 hosts, having just attended a bulls game together, really went in hard in roasting Buzelis.

Called him the worst player on the roster, emphasizing how bad that is on this roster, with fringe NBA players kicking his ass. Refer to his game using words like "abomination" and tore into his pregame work as goofing off and not being serious. Pregame prep, "a total embarrassment" compared to the vets pregame routines. Given a High probability of being a bust, can't shoot, can't defend. Getting outplayed by every other scrub on the roster. Doesn't deserve NBA minutes.

Ouch

I remember him calling out Risacher before the draft process and calling him out for not wanting to meet face to face or something. The weirdest, goofiest thing. He comes off like an arrogant, naive adolescent.

The few times I've seen him - and I've watched decent portions of Bulls games, which shows how rare he is - he has little impact. Cannot shoot whatsoever.

[Mr. Body]

Holland not doing much better.
4 assists, 7 turnovers, 4-26 from 3PT in 158 minutes played.

Holland at least has projectable defensive skills and I think can be a good slasher. He's taking way too many threes - he's awful - and the team already has his skillset, non-shooting defensive disruptor, made worse when Ausar comes back.

[LeBowen]

Holland at least has projectable defensive skills and I think can be a good slasher. He's taking way too many threes - he's awful - and the team already has his skillset, non-shooting defensive disruptor, made worse when Ausar comes back.

That's why I listed assists. Non-shooters need to be good playmakers, there's no more place in the game for slashers who can't do much else.
Ignite was such a monumental failure, idk how dumb these kids and agents were to join that team after seeing how their players kept failing in the NBA.

[Bruno]

BTW, there has been 49 games this season between and ECF and a WCF team:
East has won 15 of these games.
West has won 34 of these games.

That's brutal.

[Mugen]

Pelicans dropping left and right tbh

[Robz4000]

Pelicans dropping left and right tbh

Dark horse candidate for Flagg tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Pels might have a lost season. They're looking at Milwaukee's draft pick outright, though, so things look good.

[Mugen]

Still very early in the season but how I'm seeing the West playoff race shake out tbh:

Very Likely to Make Playoffs (1-6 seed):
OKC, Phoenix, Golden State, Denver, Minnesota, and Dallas

Very Likely to Make Play-In (7-10 seed)
Lakers, Memphis

Play-In Contention (9,10 Seed)
Rockets, Clippers, Kings, Spurs, and Pelicans

Lottery Bound
Blazers, Jazz

I could see the Pelis dropping off if they can't get healthy by year end. If the Spurs get healthy and continue to get better, I don't think the Rockets/Clippers/Kings are that much better than them tbh.

[LeBowen]

Looks about right.
I'd dare to say that we're better than all those play-in contention teams if everyone can get healthy. Not counting nephew, he won't get healthy.
We played two even games with Rockets without Devin and Tre.

Pelicans should really look to get rid of Zion while he still has some value. Same for Ingram.
If they can't actually compete, might aswell get another young player onboard, their wings are already looking good, that Missi kid could develop into a solid big.

I rate Grizzlies higher than Lakers and GSW if they can get healthy.

[Mr. Body]

I think the Clippers and Kings may be better than the Lakers, who should trail off. Last year they won the stupid in-season tournament and people thought they were a contender. Davis is playing at a high level and LeBron is carrying, but things even out.

[Pauleta14]

Listened to the most recent Big Red Bus podcast, episode 187, it's a bulls show. There's a lengthy segment on Buzelis who's been up and down to the G-league.

Around the 22:30 mark it starts. The 2 hosts, having just attended a bulls game together, really went in hard in roasting Buzelis.

Called him the worst player on the roster, emphasizing how bad that is on this roster, with fringe NBA players kicking his ass. Refer to his game using words like "abomination" and tore into his pregame work as goofing off and not being serious. Pregame prep, "a total embarrassment" compared to the vets pregame routines. Given a High probability of being a bust, can't shoot, can't defend. Getting outplayed by every other scrub on the roster. Doesn't deserve NBA minutes.

Ouch

Thx for that post mate!

I've been saying it all summer and Buzelis was the player I really didn't want. His frat boy at ude all over the medias was a massive red flag for a guy coming off of a terrible season exposing countless flaws and lazy at udes, lack of compe iveness, terrible shooting etc

[Pauleta14]

BTW, there has been 49 games this season between and ECF and a WCF team:
East has won 15 of these games.
West has won 34 of these games.

That's brutal.

Only 2 teams in the East above 50%

[Mr. Body]

Cody Williams has also been awful, but is getting playing time. He's too weak and slow to get much done and his shooting is really bad, supposedly a strong suit. Of course it's very early for these guys.

[Mugen]

I think the Clippers and Kings may be better than the Lakers, who should trail off. Last year they won the stupid in-season tournament and people thought they were a contender. Davis is playing at a high level and LeBron is carrying, but things even out.

The Lakers if healthy are better than both of those teams tbh. The "if healthy" is a valid concern given Bron's age and AD's durability history and their bench being absolute . But Norm Powell's insane start seems flukeish to me and the Kings not being able to shoot the 3 ball (nor defend it) is gonna be a major hurdle throughout the season.

[exstatic]

Looks about right.
I'd dare to say that we're better than all those play-in contention teams if everyone can get healthy. Not counting nephew, he won't get healthy.
We played two even games with Rockets without Devin and Tre.

Pelicans should really look to get rid of Zion while he still has some value. Same for Ingram.
If they can't actually compete, might aswell get another young player onboard, their wings are already looking good, that Missi kid could develop into a solid big.

I rate Grizzlies higher than Lakers and GSW if they can get healthy.

Because of his contract numbers, he really has no value around the league, other than his now mostly unguaranteed deal to use as a possible salary dump. I watched one of the most popular Pels podcasts, and they suggest that N.O. simply waive him next summer, and move on. He’s at 48% of possible career games played, and that number will drop every additional game he misses. His body is too large for the amount of athleticism he possesses, and playing the way he does, he will always be injured. The thinking is that he could be done for the year.

I can see two possible paths to continuing his NBA career. He can become a 6th man, playing limited minutes (25?), or he can do something like what Manu did to prolong his career, becoming a below the rim player. Maybe develop into something like Zach Randolph was, a big body just moving people around in the paint.

[Mr. Body]

The Lakers if healthy are better than both of those teams tbh. The "if healthy" is a valid concern given Bron's age and AD's durability history and their bench being absolute . But Norm Powell's insane start seems flukeish to me and the Kings not being able to shoot the 3 ball (nor defend it) is gonna be a major hurdle throughout the season.

I'm not sure I agree, but we'll see. Clips are well coached and Norm Powell is coming along. They can't outslug the best teams, but they can stay with them. The Kings are still figuring out their pieces but should be better than their record. The Lakers still have a trash roster outside three or four players and I think that will catch up to them.

[spurraider21]

I would have expected Holland, Cody, Sarr to be raw but figured Buzelis had means to be at least a role player with his defense

[LeBowen]

The Lakers if healthy are better than both of those teams tbh. The "if healthy" is a valid concern given Bron's age and AD's durability history and their bench being absolute . But Norm Powell's insane start seems flukeish to me and the Kings not being able to shoot the 3 ball (nor defend it) is gonna be a major hurdle throughout the season.

Lakers have no depth whatsoever. It's not even about health because if they're to make the playoffs, they'll have to run Lebron and AD into the ground.
Reaves is good, Hachimura is decent, others are just garbage.
Gabe Vincent is literally stealing paychecks. 3ppg in 18mpg.
Re hates D'Lo and my guess would be that he's desperately tryin to get rid of him.

I can't see them make it out of the first round unless they get at least two more good players.

Because of his contract numbers, he really has no value around the league, other than his now mostly unguaranteed deal to use as a possible salary dump. I watched one of the most popular Pels podcasts, and they suggest that N.O. simply waive him next summer, and move on. He’s at 48% of possible career games played, and that number will drop every additional game he misses. His body is too large for the amount of athleticism he possesses, and playing the way he does, he will always be injured. The thinking is that he could be done for the year.

I can see two possible paths to continuing his NBA career. He can become a 6th man, playing limited minutes (25?), or he can do something like what Manu did to prolong his career, becoming a below the rim player. Maybe develop into something like Zach Randolph was, a big body just moving people around in the paint.

Pels-Bucks situation is the same as ours with Hawks.
If Giannis asks out, they should offer Zion+Herb, 2 Bucks picks and a swap back, with 4 more own picks and swaps. It would be their only chance to ever be relevant.
And it would kind of make sense for Giannis.
DJ/Hawkins/Murphy/Giannis would just need a solid big to be compe ive. Can trade Ingram for one.

[Mugen]

Lakers have no depth whatsoever. It's not even about health because if they're to make the playoffs, they'll have to run Lebron and AD into the ground.
Reaves is good, Hachimura is decent, others are just garbage.
Gabe Vincent is literally stealing paychecks. 3ppg in 18mpg.
Re hates D'Lo and my guess would be that he's desperately tryin to get rid of him.

I can't see them make it out of the first round unless they get at least two more good players.

I don't disagree with most of that tbh. But I still think they're better than the Clippers and Kings if they stay healthy.

They'll probably end up trading DLo in some BS trade with one of their feeder teams that ends up improving their depth tbh.

[Mugen]

I would have expected Holland, Cody, Sarr to be raw but figured Buzelis had means to be at least a role player with his defense

I had Holland, Cody, and Buz all outside of my top 10 heading into last year's draft. I'd be shocked if any of them ever becomes a decent starter in this league.

Then again, it sounds like most of the Hornets fanbase f'n hates Saluan already

[exstatic]

I would have expected Holland, Cody, Sarr to be raw but figured Buzelis had means to be at least a role player with his defense

Apparently, he has none.