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EXACTLY !!!! Agree a hundred percent .
yeah keep harping on the body type narrative . Bottom line is Wemby not playing more than 28 is STUPID !!!! U thinking he gonna have a KP type blackhole tragectory if he plays more mins is IDIOTIC !!! So yeah keep on thinking Pop is maximizing his talent this way is perfect so he doesnt get injured lol
EXACTLY !!!! Agree a hundred percent .
25 to 27 mins Lol and then see Zach Collins on the court half the time ok Lol
sad reality
I hope to see Wemby in the 32 mpg range this season but I am expecting PATFO to come up with any excuse to keep them lower for tank purposes. I will say to those calling for 35+ mpg this season, have you seen how Wemby looks after a 5+ min stretch of mostly uninterrupted basketball? His pace drops off quick and he is noticeably winded/lagging. Pushing through that takes years of work.
yeah ill take 32mins. But i mean how is he gonna build the resistance to play longer mins ? 28 a game aint gonna take him there . Pop is so soft man its a in shame !
Playing a 20 year old 30+ minutes won't kill him. IF it does then we got bigger problems
He is not just any 20 year old and playing that many minutes when your 7’4 and at that age is just asking for injuries
I think we mostly agree here mate. I've seen him trying, more than he used, to set himself up much earlier for offensive rebounds in the last game for ex, he of course will get better and stronger inside.
My point was just that I don't imagine him having go to moves on the post, his tiny butt will always be easier to move than most bigs
We'll see
Derick Lively is 7'1" and 234lbs
Embid has started his career at around 250lbs went to about 300pds
Wilt was starting at about 260lbs pretty skinny - went to over 300pds playing fine.
Kareem was playing most of his career at 240-250 starting at 225lbs - then gained strength and mass to 270pds
SO I think IMO would be nice if in 2 to 3 years Wemby can go up to ~250lbs and establish that as his peak weight. And if he is 235 now I think next year he can easily flirt with 245ish depends on few factors.
Side note - looks like his endurance got better last few games. So as I said those early bad outings might be still leftovers after trainings just b4 season.
We'll see bro, I'm not pretending to hold the truth, however Embiid... not sure it's a great ex/model to follow ^^, Kareem remained skinny, Wilt was a track athlete and Wemby has über long limbs to "fill up", not an easy task.
(I'll take a closer look on Lively, I can't speak on him really now)
What Vic's capable of doing is already mind bloggling, litteraly never seen before, not sure there's a comp except maybe Manute Bol in term of body type
Kareem went through some serious pounding from 240-250 at one point he went to 270pds.
When TF did Kareem ever play at 270? He’s not even 270 after retirement. He was never even 250.
Man, I was AFK from the forums for a bit and wanted to get back to your comments, but....
The lauded Chet is now out for who-knows-how-long with a complicated injury, after a redshirted rookie season. Whilst Wemby has enjoyed an injury-free career (I'm touching wood, and my left ball, as I'm typing this!) thus far, and continues a slow-but-steady development approach, breaking the league in the process.
Surely the difference between Chet's and Wemby's approaches to body care and training had nothing to do with it? Just two terribly bad luck injuries (ok, this might be true, it's a difficult sport) and a tremendously lucky "weakling"? Nah, it can't be. Wemby needs them meat head gains...
And by the way, polandprzem, I don't hate you or anything. I'm continually singling you out because you have been the most vocal proponent of a very outdated, but very persistent, approach to athlete body training and training philosophy.
I only hope that the continuous pointing towards Wemby's excellence following an innovative (relative to his peers, I know about Kareem back in the day) training and development style, can help move the conversation forward, and grow the collective understanding of how the big men of the future should train and build their bodies.
Long gone are the days of bigs "bulking up" to take a beating in the post, and Wemby's just the perfect poster child for this movement. Towards a new era we go.
Wemby doesn't throw his body against the attacker, he positions himself and uses his length, he avoids contacts a lot more than ChetMan, I was AFK from the forums for a bit and wanted to get back to your comments, but....
The lauded Chet is now out for who-knows-how-long with a complicated injury, after a redshirted rookie season. Whilst Wemby has enjoyed an injury-free career (I'm touching wood, and my left ball, as I'm typing this!) thus far, and continues a slow-but-steady development approach, breaking the league in the process.
Surely the difference between Chet's and Wemby's approaches to body care and training had nothing to do with it? Just two terribly bad luck injuries (ok, this might be true, it's a difficult sport) and a tremendously lucky "weakling"? Nah, it can't be. Wemby needs them meat head gains...
He reminds me TP is that way, who had this ability to avoid contact, to the point of being bad a creating fouls when he needed bc the moves were not natural.
He's been well coached young
Wemby gained mass as I said he would. And I will be back in 2 years to back up what I posted previously about him being 250lbs. Probably again to be right.
To start the season Wemby was so out of gas it was obvious he couldn't play big minutes. His conditioning/health/esprit de corps(?) looks better now so he probably can play more. But I think it's a fluid process. Some games he seems totally healthy and full of energy, but he plays so damn hard and puts up such huge stats in these huge runs so quickly that yeah he does still get gassed and needs a break. I can recall some games from last year where we played in the high 30s in big games and that was okay too.
He was huffing and puffing that last rotation against the Wiz.
I cast serious doubts on an LA times story that somehow claims Kareem gained 20-30 lbs in one single off season, when he had trouble gaining weight his entire life.
You see gervin ballooning up into an iceberg after retire yet Kareem still remained wiry up to this day.
The local media have a lot to gain to put the team message out and in the 86 playoffs Kareem got his head handed to him on a platter by the bigger, stronger faster twin towers. Give he can’t get faster at that age, the lakers would send out messages that he got bigger and stronger.
It’s the same as the spurs media saying wemby gained 25 lbs when he gained 10 at most.
Wemby might just be a slow starter/strong finisher over the course of a season.
I was that way as a player. I was more of a baller than anyone I knew and was in decent shape to start the season, but, it always took about 10 games for my body to adjust to game shape before I got in a real groove.
The great news is that he is catching up fast and the team is adjusting to his evolving game. If he's dropping 50 at this point of the season, I can only imagine what he will be doing in April when the games might really count.
I'm with you on that tbh
A lot of intellectual wanking about his supposedly "innovative" training
It's no rocket science ffs
I did not know you are such an insider. Anything to back it up?
It's notI'm with you on that tbh
A lot of intellectual wanking about his supposedly "innovative" training
It's no rocket science ffs
They showed rehab exercises and told ppl that is magic
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