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    I love what we were seeing from Castle and hope he continues to start even after Tre and Jeremy come back.

    I still think RotY is a stretch unless he significantly increases his scoring. 8.5 points and 2.8 assists per game doesn't necessarily jump off the page.
    Who's doing much better, though?

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    Who's doing much better, though?
    https://hashtagbasketball.com/nba-rookie-rankings

    Noone is standing out so far.
    If you sort by minutes, Castle is 7th, with just 10 rookies having 20mpg or more.
    I'd say Carrington has been doing well and obviously Wells, 39th pick.

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    https://hashtagbasketball.com/nba-rookie-rankings

    Noone is standing out so far.
    If you sort by minutes, Castle is 7th, with just 10 rookies having 20mpg or more.
    I'd say Carrington has been doing well and obviously Wells, 39th pick.
    That’s 11 games and those guys will fizzle away. If Castle get the chance to start, and I don’t see why not if he continues his excellent plays, I can see him leading his class especially with the impact on both ends of the floor.

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    I did and can't see any profile that could be a threat. Hence my question

    Stephon is only starting since a cple games to "pad" his stats so I don't care about the stats with so few games played, I talking profile, talent and role
    none of that factors in when it comes to the rookie of the year award. It‘s based on stats not what you think he could be or the eye test. He‘s the best rookie out of this class, but to win it he will have to put up numbers.

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    I wonder if he can make the all defensive team.....?

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    none of that factors in when it comes to the rookie of the year award. It‘s based on stats not what you think he could be or the eye test. He‘s the best rookie out of this class, but to win it he will have to put up numbers.
    smh

    I know that thx^^

    I'm assuming that he's going to play min 25' the rest of the season with a role and production closer to what he's shown the last 2 games than the previouses. Actually even better, I don't see him getting worse.

    BASED ON THAT...

    I don't see any other profile that can have the same impact on their team BOTH SIDES OF THE COURT

    Then of course hype is another huge factor

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    If castle wants that roy award,Its up to him to step up and get it.The comp really aint to hard to compete with.

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    The Wemby thing is real. No ones gonna vote for him on eye test alone,, even if he’s passing that with semi-flying colors right now. He’s gotta put up overwhelming #s where they have to vote for him.

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    Won’t be enough shots for him to stat pad.

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    I wonder if he can make the all defensive team.....?
    that is the biggest NO that has ever been written on this forum.

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    smh

    I know that thx^^

    I'm assuming that he's going to play min 25' the rest of the season with a role and production closer to what he's shown the last 2 games than the previouses. Actually even better, I don't see him getting worse.

    BASED ON THAT...

    I don't see any other profile that can have the same impact on their team BOTH SIDES OF THE COURT

    Then of course hype is another huge factor
    he's not gonna average 16.5 PPG and his minutes will decrease once Tre and Jeremy are back. Edey averages 6.6 rebounds per game, Castle is nowhere close to that in any other category. What you see doesn't matter to the people who vote for these awards. They don't watch every game.

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    he's not gonna average 16.5 PPG and his minutes will decrease once Tre and Jeremy are back. Edey averages 6.6 rebounds per game, Castle is nowhere close to that in any other category. What you see doesn't matter to the people who vote for these awards. They don't watch every game.
    Well we're just doing projections, there's no garanteed truth here.

    I get your point but I disagree, Castle has shown that he's already more useful than more exp players on the roster and he can be used in 3 positions + with Sochan out he's our bigger body to defend guards.

    He'll have a lot of PT imo

    Edey has the hype but has a lot of time to be exposed still and already isn't starting as he used to, he's making most of his points in garbage time or vs 2 units.

    We'll see, I could be wrong but I have a strong belief Castle can become the obvious 1st choice during the season

    Edit ; I agree most don't watch a lot of games, that's why it might take a bit of time, but at some point I think he'll become just obvious bc of the lack of strong other options

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    IF the Spurs continue to win, ESPN will be highlighting because of Wemby. There’s your people to watch Castle. And under an interim coach. There’s a story there so they could keep an eye of the Spurs.

    Among the rookies I see Castle having the potential of the most impact on both sides of the court, IF he continues to start. I think Vassell coming back in the SL affects Champ as they overlap more. Tre coming back affects Wesley more. WHEN Sochan comes back is who will affect Castle as both are POA defenders. BUT if Castle is playing great then, I think he could force their arms to sit Barnes instead to not stun his growth… and IF so meaning he’s playing well enough, he would get that ROTY.

    So I think it’s more on Castle’s hands than anything. He’s on the driver seat to take advantage of people being out to showcase his skills. There’s a good story there a rookie taking over, TP for one. Brady was the quintessential example. Castle has the game to do so. Let’s see.

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    https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-...3-2024-edition

    Castle has cracked the top 10 (at #10).

    Storyline to watch

    Better shooting efficiency. So far, Washington’s Alex Sarr is underwater in terms of points per game (9.2) vs. shots per game (9.8). San Antonio’s Stephon Castle is breaking even, with 8.5 of each. It’s often said that shooting is the last piece of the puzzle for new guys and that pattern held last season. By Dec. 1 a year ago, Scoot Henderson, Gradey and Jarace Walker all were averaging more takes than makes but all three cleaned that up by season’s end.

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    That’s with 2 starts? Just wait till this guy gets more time as a starter.

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    That’s with 2 starts? Just wait till this guy gets more time as a starter.
    i was underwhelmed. As a top4 pick, i would have expected he'd get higher faster, given the compe ion. Like, how is Ryan Dunn ahead of him?

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    i was underwhelmed. As a top4 pick, i would have expected he'd get higher faster, given the compe ion. Like, how is Ryan Dunn ahead of him?
    Who gives a about the rookie ladder? It’s an arbitrary selection from not too bright NBA media.

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    It's because Dunn has better players around him- Durant, Book,Beal

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    Jared McCain is gonna run away with the ROY.

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    Jared McCain is gonna run away with the ROY.
    it's kind of embarrassing to quote yourself, but I couldn't resist

    as declared on several occasions, I'm also a member of the McCain Club. yes, the combine was a bit disappointing regarding height (I was hoping for like 6'3" and 6'8" wingspan), but didn't change my general view.
    so, if the Spurs are in position to choose between him and Sheppard at pick #8, I would pick McCain.
    just to add something to your points (to your point 1): tough shots. this is confirmed statistically. I don' remember who brought it up, I think it was Stayman on the locked on podcast, McCain's shooting shows a crazy anomaly as his percentage on guarded 3s was something like 44% and was much higher than unguarded 3s (this was like 40%). almost as if this kids needs a hand in his face to bring the best out of his shooting. he also made such shots from 5 feet behind the line.
    so, if there was something like a tough shot statistic, I'm pretty sure he would be on top. and that's something that for sure would translate to the NBA.

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    it's kind of embarrassing to quote yourself, but I couldn't resist
    nice...Yea he looking like hes figuring the nba out already.76ers looks like got a steal.

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    +1600 as of 2am last night here at MGM… gonna throw a little on that before I leave today.

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    +1600 as of 2am last night here at MGM… gonna throw a little on that before I leave today.
    For McCain?

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    That kid Carrington was pretty impressive. You mean we couldn’t keep him at 8 instead of trading to TWoves? 5.1 assists who can shoot anywhere and very poised. I like Castle but if they really wanted Salaun they could’ve drafted him at 4 and Carrington at 8. Breakdown in 3, 2, 1…
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    That kid Carrington was pretty impressive. You mean we couldn’t keep him at 8 instead of trading to TWoves? 5.1 assists who can shoot anywhere and very poised.
    Why would you draft PGs at 4 and 8?

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