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    Coming from a guy who kept saying people can’t read
    I'm happy you could seize his opportunity Karen, I know you've been waiting a long time!

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    I'm happy you could seize his opportunity Karen, I know you've been waiting a long time!
    You say stupid every day and get called out as such. It’s almost like whatever you say the opposite is true.

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    You say stupid every day and get called out as such. It’s almost like whatever you say the opposite is true.
    Karen...

    I already told you, it's not enough to write stuff down to make them true. You need to take care of ur mental health, I'm getting worried

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    Are there no black Mormons?
    your lack of basic knowledge never disappoints

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    At that stage, the biggest question about Spurs' draft is whether or not they view Castle as their future primary ballhandler/playmaker. The answer to that will change a lot about Spurs' plan for that draft.

    Sorry for the off topic...

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    At that stage, the biggest question about Spurs' draft is whether or not they view Castle as their future primary ballhandler/playmaker. The answer to that will change a lot about Spurs' plan for that draft.

    Sorry for the off topic...
    The answer is yes but it doesn’t change anything. Drafting another player who is capable of being a primary ballhandler is never wrong. When Castle sits, you want solid playmaking for all 48 minutes.

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    your lack of basic knowledge never disappoints
    Lmao I got you too all excited with a rhetorical question I see

    It says a lot more about u tho

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    Lmao I got you too all excited with a rhetorical question I see

    It says a lot more about u tho
    the funny thing is you still don't understand what they were saying

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    the funny thing is you still don't understand what they were saying


    So quick to answer att... do u even go outside sometimes?

    Mental illness is a serious thing

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    The answer is yes but it doesn’t change anything. Drafting another player who is capable of being a primary ballhandler is never wrong. When Castle sits, you want solid playmaking for all 48 minutes.
    The thing is that, if this player is available around Spurs/Hawks pick (a mid first), there will be a trade-off to this good ballhandling/playmaking. Usual trade-offs are shooting or/and defense.

    If Spurs view Castle as their long term starting lead guard (and they should), players like Traoré, Saraf or Jakucionis are way less interesting prospects for Spurs.

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    If we don't get Flagg.... I would be willing to trade our future (Spurs) picks to end up with Egor Demin, Khaman Malauch, and Liam McNeeley. I feel like that would fill all of our team gaps. Added bonus of trading our own future picks (but keeping other team's picks / swaps) would be no longer being ok with a loss.

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    If we don't get Flagg.... I would be willing to trade our future (Spurs) picks to end up with Egor Demin, Khaman Malauch, and Liam McNeeley. I feel like that would fill all of our team gaps. Added bonus of trading our own future picks (but keeping other team's picks / swaps) would be no longer being ok with a loss.
    The issue is that our future picks won't be worth much.
    Can't trade 2026 unless we trade Hawks swap with it, which we obviously won't do, 2027 and onwards should be in 20s and those aren't worth much.

    If we get let's say #12 and #18, we could maybe trade up to 7-9, no way we get into top5, probably even top7 without attaching another solid pick.
    We're in whataboutism territory, but right now I'm not too optimistic that we'll get a top5 pick other than having some more dumb luck.

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    The issue is that our future picks won't be worth much.
    Can't trade 2026 unless we trade Hawks swap with it, which we obviously won't do, 2027 and onwards should be in 20s and those aren't worth much.

    If we get let's say #12 and #18, we could maybe trade up to 7-9, no way we get into top5, probably even top7 without attaching another solid pick.
    We're in whataboutism territory, but right now I'm not too optimistic that we'll get a top5 pick other than having some more dumb luck.
    Bruno posted this in the ATL pick watch thread:

    espn has a statistical projection record tool:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/bpi/_/view/projections

    Right now, they project Spurs to end with the 7th, 9th and 15th picks in the 2025 draft.
    If the 7 or 9 hits the top 4 lottery.... we can get Demin. Malauch is mocked at #8 right now so he's doable with the other pick. McNeeley is mocked #11 so we'd have to trade up a few spots. We could use future picks (not very valuable, but still something), take on bad salary, send out a current player (not Castle, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, or Wemby), or any of our 20 SRPs.

    EDIT: and I was serious about being happy with trading our future picks so we could stop being ok with losses.

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    Plenty of superb players in the 10-20 range… Noa and Collin Murray Boyles.

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    If the 7 or 9 hits the top 4 lottery.... we can get Demin. Malauch is mocked at #8 right now so he's doable with the other pick. McNeeley is mocked #11 so we'd have to trade up a few spots. We could use future picks (not very valuable, but still something), take on bad salary, send out a current player (not Castle, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, or Wemby), or any of our 20 SRPs.

    EDIT: and I was serious about being happy with trading our future picks so we could stop being ok with losses.
    I don't think we're going to get 7th best odds.
    We should have a better record than Blazers and Jazz int the West, East is full of bad teams. Yeah, they might get a higher seed, but I expect us to have a better record than all the teams that don't make the play-in.
    11th seed in the East had 32 wins last season, West had 41.
    9th and 10th had 36 and 39, respectively. I expect those numbers to be even lower this year and I expect Spurs to get 30 to 35 wins.

    Our issue is that Hawks are looking good, we need Trae to get injured, tbh.

    EDIT: and I was serious about being happy with trading our future picks so we could stop being ok with losses.
    I'd also be happy to do it, especially in years when we have other picks, I'm just saying those picks won't be valuable because Wemby will be the best player in the league and we'll surely make the playoffs at the very least.

    Plenty of superb players in the 10-20 range… Noa and Collin Murray Boyles.
    I haven't seen enough of these guys, how accurate are these player comps?
    https://nbadraftroom.com/2025-nba-mock-draft/

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    I don't think we're going to get 7th best odds.
    We should have a better record than Blazers and Jazz int the West, East is full of bad teams. Yeah, they might get a higher seed, but I expect us to have a better record than all the teams that don't make the play-in.
    11th seed in the East had 32 wins last season, West had 41.
    9th and 10th had 36 and 39, respectively. I expect those numbers to be even lower this year and I expect Spurs to get 30 to 35 wins.

    Our issue is that Hawks are looking good, we need Trae to get injured, tbh.



    I'd also be happy to do it, especially in years when we have other picks, I'm just saying those picks won't be valuable because Wemby will be the best player in the league and we'll surely make the playoffs at the very least.



    I haven't seen enough of these guys, how accurate are these player comps?
    https://nbadraftroom.com/2025-nba-mock-draft/
    Not that accurate, IMO.

    Will Riley is another one to lookout for who could potentially shoot up the drafts… or not. Hopefully he stays where he is mocked right now because he’d fill a huge need. The team needs a gunner and when I say a gunner, not the spot up shy type like Barnes and McDermott. If you guys watched the Rockets games, the way Dillon Brooks or Jalen Green would just throw it up with supreme confidence… we need a small forward version of that. Tre Johnson is of that ilk and so is Will Riley.

    Boyles is Draymond redux. We need to account for Sochan’s D when he sits or gets injured and Boyles is outstanding when it comes to his basketball IQ. He’s super strong and has long arms as well.

    IMO this is the order of what’s needed most for the future:

    1) an assertive small forward shooter as I described above, basically takes Keldon’s minutes and Barnes’ starting position
    2) a combo versatile big similar to Sochan so defense never sleeps, can backup both Sochan and Wemby
    3) a third string guard who can come in after Castle and Tre Jones (I’m all about keeping Tre now since both Wesley and Malaki aren’t cutting it) and manage the offense
    4) another useful, cheap wing similar to Champ

    Tbh, if our two ways are given chances to crack the rotation, Ingram could fill 2 and Duke Jr. could fill 3. I think #1 really only could be solved through the draft.

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    This really may be a great draft. Unfortunately the directions for our teams seem to be going the wrong ways. Chicago ain't great, Charlotte is pretty bad, Atlanta is better than expected. The Spurs may win up winning in the high 30s, but then the WC is so stacked right now they won't even be in the play-in.

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    Karen...

    I already told you, it's not enough to write stuff down to make them true. You need to take care of ur mental health, I'm getting worried
    I’d be worried about someone who somehow stays up 3am Paris time posting on a spurs forum every day.

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    1) an assertive small forward shooter as I described above, basically takes Keldon’s minutes and Barnes’ starting position
    Agreed, that's why I was so desperate for Markkanen.
    Who knows, there's always next summer.

    2) a combo versatile big similar to Sochan so defense never sleeps, can backup both Sochan and Wemby
    I don't think we necessarily need that forward to be Wemby's backup. I still think we need another legit 7 footer in the rotation.
    Can't rely on Wemby playing 35mpg every game, foul trouble can always happen.
    Maluach is intriguing, I watched him in that exhibition game against USA Sudan almost won, he can shoot. If he develops into a player too good to keep on the bench, even better. You can trade him for a good return later on. Applies to every draftee we get. I'm still on BPA train if the draftee has high ceiling. Why not create another Haliburton/Sabonis situation if there's an opportunity?
    But yeah, would be great if we can get another good defender who's at least 6'8 and has a solid jumpshot.

    3) a third string guard who can come in after Castle and Tre Jones (I’m all about keeping Tre now since both Wesley and Malaki aren’t cutting it) and manage the offense
    4) another useful, cheap wing similar to Champ
    These two don't worry me too much, it should be fairly easy to find a steady third string point guard if we keep Tre.
    If he leaves, then I wouldn't mind a triple threat scorer who can drop 15 whenever the team needs it.
    When it comes to cheap wings, we should put those SRPs to work. Most contenders have cap issues and it should be fairly easy to move up to #25-30 pick range with a handful of SRPs if there's an older 3-D wing worth drafting.

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    Plenty of superb players in the 10-20 range… Noa and Collin Murray Boyles.
    I like Noa but I think Murray Boyles stock is going to drop because I don’t think he has tried one three ball yet.

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    The key about Essengue is his outside shot.

    This season when you combine his games in German League and European league:
    15 games
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    8/29 3P (.276)
    56/83 FT (.675)

    Sadly, low volume and % for the moment.

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    And if you want some crazy ideas about what Spurs could do with their picks this summer: Spurs will have $50M in tradable expiring contracts (Barnes, Collins, Branham, Wesley and Cissoko).
    I doubt Spurs will take that road but they will be in position to do a major trade next summer with their picks and expiring contracts.

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    The answer is yes but it doesn’t change anything. Drafting another player who is capable of being a primary ballhandler is never wrong. When Castle sits, you want solid playmaking for all 48 minutes.
    I mean look at Okc, it seems like all they draft is primary ball handlers and it seems to work for them.

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    The key about Essengue is his outside shot.

    This season when you combine his games in German League and European league:
    15 games
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    8/29 3P (.276)
    56/83 FT (.675)

    Sadly, low volume and % for the moment.
    I watched him in person, I dont like his game. He is very athletic, but his shot seemed off.

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    And if you want some crazy ideas about what Spurs could do with their picks this summer: Spurs will have $50M in tradable expiring contracts (Barnes, Collins, Branham, Wesley and Cissoko).
    I doubt Spurs will take that road but they will be in position to do a major trade next summer with their picks and expiring contracts.
    I hope Spurs will have all 4 possible 1st this year.

    I think Bucks and Phoenix can implode if they lost in 1st round.

    Also Celtics cant keep their 225mil roster, thinking if they win 2nd championship, guy like Jaylen Brown could become available.

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