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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.

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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.
    We talkin bout practice man...

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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.
    I love AI but it was as much on him tbh

    A bit like Westbrook, admirable in their investment and compe iveness, but played as if it was an individual game when they should've sacrificed their own interest for the team's like MJ was able to do after a few years with the same type of indiv mindset.

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    I did not know you are such an insider. Anything to back it up?
    Every single site listing his playing weight at 225?

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    Victor did not gain 25 pounds or whatever that number was said this off-season. Someone mentioned that he said in a french interview, it was nowhere near that amount.

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    I love AI but it was as much on him tbh

    A bit like Westbrook, admirable in their investment and compe iveness, but played as if it was an individual game when they should've sacrificed their own interest for the team's like MJ was able to do after a few years with the same type of indiv mindset.
    Yeah. But, like Iverson...Wemby is our best player. He can also be our worse player. All in the same game

    I hope doesn't end up in the Iverson/Westbrook camp...but, he seems to be headed that way. Which is as much on the F/O as it is on him. Again, similar to Westbrook and Iverson?

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    Yeah. But, like Iverson...Wemby is our best player. He can also be our worse player. All in the same game

    I hope doesn't end up in the Iverson/Westbrook camp...but, he seems to be headed that way. Which is as much on the F/O as it is on him. Again, similar to Westbrook and Iverson?
    Yep, but it'll be worrisome only if it says like that, but with already Castle + another gem maybe next draft and maybe Vassel stepping up Spurs won't be just dependant on Wemby's production.

    Also contrary to AI and Westbrook, Wemby loves to pass, very dif type of personalty, less egotistic

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    Comparing Wemby to Westbrook and Iverson in terms of selfishness is asinine.
    This site, man.

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    Comparing Wemby to Westbrook and Iverson in terms of selfishness is asinine.
    This site, man.
    It's a very good comparison. Wemby wants to hero ball. Always has. He gets upset when he doesn't get a pass when he hasn't sealed off his guy or won position down low.

    That's a good thing. He should feel that way. It's what made AI and Westbrook Dawgs. It's what makes him a dang.

    Having an issue with very basic criticism is closer to being asinine than comparing hero ball type players.

    Wemby chucked two horrible 3s tonight when the team had a chance to tie at the end. Were horrible shots. Wasn't set, didn't have his legs, no rhythm. They were the type of scratch your head shots Westbrook would make all the time.

    I have no doubt he will grow out of it and want him learning that through experience so I'm good with it but to ignore the similarities is just odd.

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    It's a very good comparison. Wemby wants to hero ball. Always has. He gets upset when he doesn't get a pass when he hasn't sealed off his guy or won position down low.

    That's a good thing. He should feel that way. It's what made AI and Westbrook Dawgs. It's what makes him a dang.

    Having an issue with very basic criticism is closer to being asinine than comparing hero ball type players.

    Wemby chucked two horrible 3s tonight when the team had a chance to tie at the end. Were horrible shots. Wasn't set, didn't have his legs, no rhythm. They were the type of scratch your head shots Westbrook would make all the time.

    I have no doubt he will grow out of it and want him learning that through experience so I'm good with it but to ignore the similarities is just odd.
    I don't think he was comparing the players, Vic is quite the opposite and clearly a team player, I think he compared the situations IF things stayed as they are with Wemby being really the only threat of the team.

    It has to chnage quick and Stephon clearly will be one of them + I hope at least one more next summer

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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.

    Iverson for his career shot 31% from three and 42.5% from the field, with a 51.8% TS%... in short, he was always a very inefficient shooter. The idea that that he could be the #1 guy on a le team was pretty ludicrous.

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    Victor did not gain 25 pounds or whatever that number was said this off-season. Someone mentioned that he said in a french interview, it was nowhere near that amount.
    HE said what was the number? Nope.
    He does not know but it must be... huh

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    Every single site listing his playing weight at 225?
    Now you believe the sites? You can't have it both ways.
    I see another article that says 250lbs


    But the case is that he developed his body and that's the main point. That's why I showed more examples.


    If Wemby stayed at 200lbs it would be a disservice. The visuals are obvious also. Ppl might cry it's not 25pds but still after the draft I said it's gonna be ~20pds. So you can measure what you want. I have him listed 210lbs then. I have him now at 235lbs.

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    Imagine Wemby gonna be at 250pds. Someone 30years from now will take a look at the sites that have him listed at 210pds... bball reference has him at 209lbs now

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    It's a very good comparison. Wemby wants to hero ball. Always has. He gets upset when he doesn't get a pass when he hasn't sealed off his guy or won position down low.

    That's a good thing. He should feel that way. It's what made AI and Westbrook Dawgs. It's what makes him a dang.

    Having an issue with very basic criticism is closer to being asinine than comparing hero ball type players.

    Wemby chucked two horrible 3s tonight when the team had a chance to tie at the end. Were horrible shots. Wasn't set, didn't have his legs, no rhythm. They were the type of scratch your head shots Westbrook would make all the time.

    I have no doubt he will grow out of it and want him learning that through experience so I'm good with it but to ignore the similarities is just odd.
    There are no similarities. What's odd is you insisting that there is.

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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.
    yes, we are ready to win right now. People keep talking about tanking until 2027 to get set up for the future is bs. Cooper Flagg isn't the answer for a backup center. He's 6'9 200 lbs. We need a defending backup center now. Edey wasn't the answer. He's a foul machine. Collins, Branam, and Johnson are 3 players we need to find a way to get rid of somehow before the start of next season

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    It's all about Wemby.

    Spurs need a "team." Right now it reminds me of Allen Iverson teams. Iverson was great...but, nobody else was.

    I hated watching one dimensional teams like that. I still do.

    "But, they'll build around him!" Will they tho? They said same thing about Iverson.
    though the 01 sixers were not as good as the lakers, they were a decent team. The team was built with defenders and players that can hit the midrange so that all iverson had to do was score. You had the Six man of the year in Mckie, DPOY in Mutombo, and some very serviceable players like Lynch and snow. I'd rather have that version of Tyrone Hill right now than Collins

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    Wemby gained mass as I said he would. And I will be back in 2 years to back up what I posted previously about him being 250lbs. Probably again to be right.
    sure, keep moving that goalpost man. That's just what you said, eh? That the skinny tall guy would gain mass? Not how much and how quick, or on what training regime? Saying he had clearly gotten stronger this season when you heard he was 235, now saying he's weak once Wemby disproves it?

    We really live in a post-truth world. Words just don't matter anymore.

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    I'm with you on that tbh

    A lot of intellectual wanking about his supposedly "innovative" training

    It's no rocket science ffs
    Sure, if you're willing to ignore him consistently going against the traditional training regime for big men (something KD had a lot of influence in, before Wemby) and being very vocal about his training approach and goals, in spite of everyone saying he needed to "bulk up and get on the post" through his career, then it's not rocket science at all.

    People always act like whatever turns out right was the obvious thing all along.

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    Sure, if you're willing to ignore him consistently going against the traditional training regime for big men (something KD had a lot of influence in, before Wemby) and being very vocal about his training approach and goals, in spite of everyone saying he needed to "bulk up and get on the post" through his career, then it's not rocket science at all.

    People always act like whatever turns out right was the obvious thing all along.
    I've disagreed with him on some points too, it's ok to have a nuanced pov and you don't have to always choose a camp/team.

    The reality is that none of us knows, we're just speculating based on past players knowing Wemby's different than them.

    ST is such a weird place, entertaining as much as a live anthropological study

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    sure, keep moving that goalpost man. That's just what you said, eh? That the skinny tall guy would gain mass? Not how much and how quick, or on what training regime? Saying he had clearly gotten stronger this season when you heard he was 235, now saying he's weak once Wemby disproves it?

    We really live in a post-truth world. Words just don't matter anymore.
    WTF is this?

    Not only you are low in intelligence but also massively stupid.

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    Sure, if you're willing to ignore him consistently going against the traditional training regime for big men (something KD had a lot of influence in, before Wemby) and being very vocal about his training approach and goals, in spite of everyone saying he needed to "bulk up and get on the post" through his career, then it's not rocket science at all.

    People always act like whatever turns out right was the obvious thing all along.
    Name the exercises they do show on internet and provide the knowledge why is he doing those exercises. What are they for and if they make him stronger, bigger, etc.

    Bring it or STFU!

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    sure, keep moving that goalpost man. That's just what you said, eh? That the skinny tall guy would gain mass? Not how much and how quick, or on what training regime? Saying he had clearly gotten stronger this season when you heard he was 235, now saying he's weak once Wemby disproves it?

    We really live in a post-truth world. Words just don't matter anymore.
    Follow it with your getting skinner gaining 25pds...

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    Now you believe the sites? You can't have it both ways.
    I see another article that says 250lbs


    But the case is that he developed his body and that's the main point. That's why I showed more examples.


    If Wemby stayed at 200lbs it would be a disservice. The visuals are obvious also. Ppl might cry it's not 25pds but still after the draft I said it's gonna be ~20pds. So you can measure what you want. I have him listed 210lbs then. I have him now at 235lbs.
    If you think an LA times article, a single article, is correct and the official nba measurements aren’t, the. I’m not sure there is a point of discussion. Not a single official source had KAJ listed at 250, let alone 270. It was always 225. I’m sure he gained some weight through his 20 years in the league, but to have him gain 30 lbs in one of off season is unlikely, if not downright unbelievable, when he never had the ability to gain weight.

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