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    It kind of says something that LBJ helped him up after he went after AD in the first half. Not that it's a big thing but normally teams let their opponents help up their own guys during games. I think they were both impressed by that play, which got Castle a foul.

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    SF sure. But has to be someone who can get into the lane and stir the drink. I'm thinking what skills are we lacking.

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    To me it seems completely clear that Castle is seeing the floor and game at a different level than most rookies. He may have limitations and I'm not sure what how ceiling is, but he just knows what he's doing on an innate level even before coaching.

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    He may have limitations
    Honest question, what do you see as his limitations other than shooting that's work in progress?
    He obviously won't ever have flashy handles or lightning quick moves, but he's getting to the rim with ease as a rookie. I can't see how he isn't one of the best paint penetrators in his prime. Already draws more fouls than anyone else on the roster.
    From the first summer league game it was obvious his passing instincts are great, he's a natural passer.
    25 assists and just 7 turnovers in 5 games since he got a bigger role. Should've been even more assists considering how many open shots were missed.

    Drafted because he was advertised as a potentially elite defender and he already looks great. Gets torched here and there, but who doesn't? Great instincts and reads in passing lanes, doesn't gamble unneccessarily, everything is calculted.

    Jumpshot is obviously the deciding factor, but we have players in the league who are seen as very good shooters right now and their starting point was way behind where Castle currently is. Doesn't mean he'll become a great shooter, but it's an encouraging sign.

    I might be getting overhyped, but his IQ and decision making is unprecedented for a rookie that wasn't hyped up as the next big thing.

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    Nice jinx feggit

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    I've reached that Kobe level respect. Maybe even more, because LeBron seems like a nicer guy and apparently never raped anybody. Same goes for Dirk.

    He was our nemesis for so many years and definitely a diva, so he was easy to hate.

    But at this point, you gotta respect the wars we went through with him, and the talent and accomplishments he has displayed on the court.
    Except for his comment about the China situation

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    Honest question, what do you see as his limitations other than shooting that's work in progress?
    He obviously won't ever have flashy handles or lightning quick moves, but he's getting to the rim with ease as a rookie. I can't see how he isn't one of the best paint penetrators in his prime. Already draws more fouls than anyone else on the roster.
    From the first summer league game it was obvious his passing instincts are great, he's a natural passer.
    25 assists and just 7 turnovers in 5 games since he got a bigger role. Should've been even more assists considering how many open shots were missed.

    Drafted because he was advertised as a potentially elite defender and he already looks great. Gets torched here and there, but who doesn't? Great instincts and reads in passing lanes, doesn't gamble unneccessarily, everything is calculted.

    Jumpshot is obviously the deciding factor, but we have players in the league who are seen as very good shooters right now and their starting point was way behind where Castle currently is. Doesn't mean he'll become a great shooter, but it's an encouraging sign.

    I might be getting overhyped, but his IQ and decision making is unprecedented for a rookie that wasn't hyped up as the next big thing.
    Putting the shooting aside, which I don't think is a long-term concern for me. (I think he'll be a great mid-range shooter and his three will be at least good.)

    1. He's somewhat labored getting into the paint. He doesn't have blow-by burst and he's not very vertically athletic when he drives, as in he can't yam it in traffic or go over guys. However, he is crafty and strong and can draw fouls. I just think this limits him as an iso scorer in some ways.

    2. He's a great skip passer and passer on the move. I'm not sure how he is as a CP-type defense manipulator. That's a really tall ask, obviously. Just saying that when he plays point, there are some restrictions to what he might do.

    I'm not sure that he'll carry a number one offensive load, be able to break down a defense consistently on his own, and I'm not sure he's a 'floor general' type point so much as a slashing initiator. But those are not huge restrictions. He's going to be a great cutter, reader of defenses, connector, threat off of actions, and so on. He won't be a constant Tony Parker stirring the pot lead attack guy, I don't think. And that's totally fine. His skills are everywhere else.

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    Putting the shooting aside, which I don't think is a long-term concern for me. (I think he'll be a great mid-range shooter and his three will be at least good.)

    1. He's somewhat labored getting into the paint. He doesn't have blow-by burst and he's not very vertically athletic when he drives, as in he can't yam it in traffic or go over guys. However, he is crafty and strong and can draw fouls. I just think this limits him as an iso scorer in some ways.

    2. He's a great skip passer and passer on the move. I'm not sure how he is as a CP-type defense manipulator. That's a really tall ask, obviously. Just saying that when he plays point, there are some restrictions to what he might do.

    I'm not sure that he'll carry a number one offensive load, be able to break down a defense consistently on his own, and I'm not sure he's a 'floor general' type point so much as a slashing initiator. But those are not huge restrictions. He's going to be a great cutter, reader of defenses, connector, threat off of actions, and so on. He won't be a constant Tony Parker stirring the pot lead attack guy, I don't think. And that's totally fine. His skills are everywhere else.
    Fair points about the floor general type, but my impression is that PATFO aren't looking for that kind of a playmaker.
    Instead they're fully bought into style where everyone shares the ball.

    Wemby obviously won't have KD's handles, but even though it looks rough right now, I think he'll easily get to Giannis level playmaking if we talk ball security.
    5 to 6 assists average with good turnover ratio should be easy to achieve.
    Devin has great PNR chemistry with Wemby and when CP3 is gone, he should also be able to get those 4 to 5 assists.

    If Castle is Jrue, we don't really need an offensive engine type point guard.
    It's going to be interesting to see what kind of forward they go in this draft.
    If Demin is the real deal and we can somehow get him, they should go for it even if it means overpay.
    Point forward with a reliable shot added to current core would be perfect. If they develop, that is.

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    SF sure. But has to be someone who can get into the lane and stir the drink. I'm thinking what skills are we lacking.
    If we somehow managed to get a Jaylen Brown style wing we're complete

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    Fair points about the floor general type, but my impression is that PATFO aren't looking for that kind of a playmaker.
    Instead they're fully bought into style where everyone shares the ball.

    Wemby obviously won't have KD's handles, but even though it looks rough right now, I think he'll easily get to Giannis level playmaking if we talk ball security.
    5 to 6 assists average with good turnover ratio should be easy to achieve.
    Devin has great PNR chemistry with Wemby and when CP3 is gone, he should also be able to get those 4 to 5 assists.

    If Castle is Jrue, we don't really need an offensive engine type point guard.
    It's going to be interesting to see what kind of forward they go in this draft.
    If Demin is the real deal and we can somehow get him, they should go for it even if it means overpay.
    Point forward with a reliable shot added to current core would be perfect. If they develop, that is.
    I don't really mean any of those things in a bad way. I was 100000% into Castle during the draft process. I love the pick and think he can be tremendous. I just mean he's a certain type of player. I think he's sort of multiplicative in a way. If we get a Tony Parker stir-the-drink guard or a multi-tool creative wing, those sorts of players, then Castle just multiplies what's there.

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    Bron clearly laying the groundwork for Klutch. Fans don’t realize this dude always has an agenda

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    I don't know how people can hate LeBron. Dude genuinely loves the game.
    He flops a lot, has been anywhere from solid to godlike since he was 18 — 20 years ago — and went to eleventy million finals in a row while not being on our team. What's to like?

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    #8 Pick...Dalton Knecht.

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    I don't really mean any of those things in a bad way. I was 100000% into Castle during the draft process. I love the pick and think he can be tremendous. I just mean he's a certain type of player. I think he's sort of multiplicative in a way. If we get a Tony Parker stir-the-drink guard or a multi-tool creative wing, those sorts of players, then Castle just multiplies what's there.
    The fact that the kids JUST turned 20 and is getting all these raves is amazing. He is def living up to the hype I built up in my head lol

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    Bron clearly laying the groundwork for Klutch. Fans don’t realize this dude always has an agenda
    Bingo, he seems the manipulative type.

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    You don't need a star...just another Danny Green.

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    The Wright find the Westbrook to Wemby's Durant?
    I think we will still need a proper #2 to wemby and the roster doesn’t have that. Castle could be a top 4 player on a le winning team one day.

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    Castle is adjusting so well.
    One aspect of his game that I like is that he has a small bag of effective go-to moves offensively. He keeps it very simple.
    I look forward to his continued development, especially, after he has seen his opponents a time or two.

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