Spurs Looking To Build New Stadium Downtown

[CGD]

Downtown (besides where the Riley's Believe it Or Not walkway) was pretty dead. Closed up shops. A stadium would do wonders.

Yup, was there for a conference 3 years ago and was saddened at how dead downtown had gotten. I suppose it’s all migrating the Pearl area?

[ambchang]

North American (and to an extent Australian) cities were built with the automobile in mind, it’s not a surprise as they were growing during the auto age. Most older world cities were built when the main form of transportation were horses, carts, bicycles or legs. Most North American cities have enormous sprawls and having a subway system with a decentralized population is not efficient or cost effective. Unless Americans are willing to give up (or more likely can no longer afford) 2500 two car garage houses and willing to move into condos and other high density housing, a subway system just doesn’t make any financial sense.

[CGD]

North American (and to an extent Australian) cities were built with the automobile in mind, it’s not a surprise as they were growing during the auto age. Most older world cities were built when the main form of transportation were horses, carts, bicycles or legs. Most North American cities have enormous sprawls and having a subway system with a decentralized population is not efficient or cost effective. Unless Americans are willing to give up (or more likely can no longer afford) 2500 two car garage houses and willing to move into condos and other high density housing, a subway system just doesn’t make any financial sense.

Yup and the success of remote work makes it even more challenging for proponents of public transit in the US. For example, the metro in the DC area (one of the best subway systems we have in the country) is struggling financially because the majority of Fed workers are still on hybrid schedules. Ridership is just not the same anymore.

[offset formation]

We need a lift type system that is relatively cheap compared to subways or trains and it'd fit into and around existing infrastructure. It'd scale out to suburban areas much easier.

It's the only salvation for urban sprawl cities common in the South and West.

[ace3g]

[ChumpDumper]

I can see maybe trying to preserve the courthouse but the ITC building is straight garbage. Besides, you can get all the brutalism you could stand at the original UTSA campus.

[CGD]

Dirty— it’s either the “Spurs to Austin” lobby, the NIMBYs, or “not a dime from us” crew.

[scott]

As to who-done-it:

https://sanantonioreport.org/san-ant...c-designation/

A Texas Historical Commission panel ruled Saturday that the Ins ute of Texan Cultures is eligible to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places.The Conservation Society of San Antonio filed the application in 2022 to include the Ins ute of Texas Cultures (ITC) on the National Register. UTSA, the Ins ute’s owner, opposed the request.

Apparently this was approved back in January though

[Das Texan]

I can see maybe trying to preserve the courthouse but the ITC building is straight garbage. Besides, you can get all the brutalism you could stand at the original UTSA campus.

its stupid like this that has caused so many buildings in downtown to be vacant for decades.

There is maintaining history and there is letting that get in the ing way of literally anything.

Both of these buildings need to be ing torn down for similar reasons. They are mold infested dumps that are way too costly to remodel and are really part of history we dont need to remember from a design ideal.

[Russ]

I think Victoria Courts was also ruled out for civic reasons last time -- which caused the Spurs to end up at the AT&T site.

[manufan10]

"Reports indicate that San Antonio is gearing up for a sports and entertainment revolution. City leaders are unveiling ambitious plans for a $4 billion project dubbed "Project Marvel” — which would include a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs this week."

https://www.news4sanantonio.com/news...vention-center

[Russ]

"Reports indicate that San Antonio is gearing up for a sports and entertainment revolution. City leaders are unveiling ambitious plans for a $4 billion project dubbed "Project Marvel” — which would include a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs this week."

https://www.news4sanantonio.com/news...vention-center

Dusty lives! (I think.)

[djohn2oo8]

"Reports indicate that San Antonio is gearing up for a sports and entertainment revolution. City leaders are unveiling ambitious plans for a $4 billion project dubbed "Project Marvel” — which would include a new arena for the San Antonio Spurs this week."

https://www.news4sanantonio.com/news...vention-center

Been a while since I lived in SA. Any chance this actually happens?

[Dejounte]

The wemby effect

[DPG21920]

Been a while since I lived in SA. Any chance this actually happens?

I would imagine its pretty damn likely

[CGD]

Long overdue. Smart to make it part of the broader revitalization too to blunt some of the anti-public funding crowd attacks.

[exstatic]

Long overdue. Smart to make it part of the broader revitalization too to blunt some of the anti-public funding crowd attacks.

As long as the ‘public’ are out of towners who pay through hotel/rental car taxes, I’m down.

[MarCowMar]

So, yer be wanting me to put down me gun 'un me bible--both of which ye chastened me so nastily for appreciatin'-- in order fer me to get out me wallet and pay fer yer new spertball stadium?

And sayin' I do pay for yer spertball stadium, do I get a free seat?

Come now! no free seat? Well what about free perkin? Surely a person wut has paid for the concrete and wood ye practice on, can be spared a dedicated spert to perk?

No perkin?! Well the least you could do is offer me a discount on the dogs or the sudz?

Yer tells me the dogs and the sudz are some of the only honest profits of this sadistic, Masonic endeavor?

Blast, Yankee at least give this foul construction a Christian name representative of the sacrifice the taxpayer's made for its creation, and lest God not be angered that we have dedicated such a gross sum of money to a secular spectacle. What do ye plan on naming this abomination? Perhaps Grace Court Arena?

The Pornhub Trafficking Hub?? There is no hope fer yer lot.

[lefty]

Been a while since I lived in SA. Any chance this actually happens?

Yea
They need to to accommodate those fatties

[SouthernFried]

This is what Greed and Corruption looks like.

Pretty much the definition.

[Pauleta14]

This is what Greed and Corruption looks like.

Pretty much the definition.

That's how the US were built tho. It makes sense

[Bill_Brasky]

This is what Greed and Corruption looks like.

Pretty much the definition.

Oh, THIS is where we're drawing the line. Right.

[SouthernFried]

That's how the US were built tho. It makes sense

No. This was not how the US was built. The Corruption in govt was built this way. And it's been the same way for all of human history. Govts are corrupt, almost by definition.

"The natural order is for govt to continually increase is power, at the expense of individual liberty." - Thomas Jefferson. The same sentiment as been issued by many others, Woodrow Wilson, Reagan, etc. The US Cons ution was written with one purpose and one purpose only. To limit the US Govt. Every amendment puts limitations on the Govt. Not on the people.

We have become corrupt, because we have basically thrown away most of the Cons ution. It's why they don't teach it anymore. Most people only know 1 or 2 amendments, if that. For a reason. The most important do ent in American history, and arguably the world. And Most Americans have no clue what it says. , most teachers have no clue either.

Therein lies the problem....

[SouthernFried]

Oh, THIS is where we're drawing the line. Right.

Nobody said, or inferred that. It's just another boondoggle amongst many, going back decades.

[SouthernFried]

The Spurs simply don't deserve another stadium.

Not that that has any bearing on the matter...