Is polling and legacy media essentially dead now?

[Blake]

I followed the most accurate pollsters of 2020 who were also the most accurate pollsters of 2024 as seen in my post directly above your idiotic comment.

Why do you continue to embarrass yourself?

Why'd you stop following Nate Silver?

You won't answer so I'll do it for you: because he started favoring Harris there at the end.

[TSA]

Why'd you stop following Nate Silver?

You won't answer so I'll do it for you: because he started favoring Harris there at the end.

I already answered this is the other thread I'm making you looking stupid in. I never stopped following Nate Silver's predictions and I was very clear during the election why I would or would not post Nate Silver's predictions.

You fell victim to Dem hopium polls over and over again even after I tried to help you understand how to analyze polls and dive into the crosstabs/sample but you laughed at me and now you're in a full blown tailspin because you're so butthurt about how dumb I've made you look.

[Millennial_Messiah]

muh red team polls

And I was mocked for continuously pointing out that Atlas Intel was the most accurate pollster of 2020.

Yeah and those also suggest that Trump has room to expand in Nevada and Arizona. Unfortunately 1% wouldn't get the Senate candidate over the hump considering how far behind they're trailing.

[koriwhat]

The crying coming from the regressives has been music to my ears. So many videos coming out from adult children throwing tantrums like the mentally ill rejects they all are, no different than here on ST.

yall regressives!

[Blake]

I already answered this is the other thread I'm making you looking stupid in. I never stopped following Nate Silver's predictions and I was very clear during the election why I would or would not post Nate Silver's predictions.

You fell victim to Dem hopium polls over and over again even after I tried to help you understand how to analyze polls and dive into the crosstabs/sample but you laughed at me and now you're in a full blown tailspin because you're so butthurt about how dumb I've made you look.

The ol tsa "I've already answered somewhere else, I'd rather post two paragraphs about you than a one sentence answer" rodeo.

We'll disagree on who looks like a moron here

[TSA]

The ol tsa "I've already answered somewhere else, I'd rather post two paragraphs about you than a one sentence answer" rodeo.

We'll disagree on who looks like a moron here

I answered you in the other thread an hour ago when you asked the same question. I saw you in that thread after I answered you so look really ing stupid pretending here that I didn't answer it.

Here it is again "Same thing I said when I was asked before. Why would I post Nate Silver predictions favoring Harris? I'm here to talk on Harris supporters. Same reason Dem posters didn't post Nate Silver predictions when they favored Trump."

You trying to make this about when I did or didn't post Nate Silver predictions is a pathetic attempt to deflect from how much I ing embarrassed you any time you tried to bring up polling.

I honestly don't know why you keep wanting to discuss your complete lack of polling knowledge unless you've got some weird kink of getting publicly humiliated, which wouldn't surprise me as you decided to share with the board that your wife was getting ed down by another man.

[TSA]

[Blake]

I answered you in the other thread an hour ago when you asked the same question. I saw you in that thread after I answered you so look really ing stupid pretending here that I didn't answer it.

Here it is again "Same thing I said when I was asked before. Why would I post Nate Silver predictions favoring Harris? I'm here to talk on Harris supporters. Same reason Dem posters didn't post Nate Silver predictions when they favored Trump."

You trying to make this about when I did or didn't post Nate Silver predictions is a pathetic attempt to deflect from how much I ing embarrassed you any time you tried to bring up polling.

I honestly don't know why you keep wanting to discuss your complete lack of polling knowledge unless you've got some weird kink of getting publicly humiliated, which wouldn't surprise me as you decided to share with the board that your wife was getting ed down by another man.

Oh look a text wall

[TSA]

Oh look a text wall

Why are you doing this to yourself?

[Blake]

Why are you doing this to yourself?

Build another text wall that nobody reads and REALLY show me

[TSA]

Build another text wall that nobody reads and REALLY show me

Why are you doing this to yourself?

[SnakeBoy]

that re in Iowa

[florige]

It doesn't matter how much the polls screwed up, it sells newspapers and gives the 24/7 news media something to talk about for months on end during our (insanely long, tbh) election season.

The media needs polls to sell a horse race, so they aren't going anywhere.

If the polls had Trump beating her by a landslide the entire time no one would had been engaged at all. No one would had been paying attention to all the media’s talking heads because it wouldn’t really had been a point to if the polls showed her losing . Then you have talking heads like Van Jones saying nonsense like he’s getting the same feel like Obama 08 further giving people false hope . It’s all smoke and mirrors, but in 2028 it will be the same thing all over again

[Winehole23]

If the polls had Trump beating her by a landslide the entire time no one would had been engaged at all. No one would had been paying attention to all the media’s talking heads because it wouldn’t really had been a point to if the polls showed her losing . Then you have talking heads like Van Jones saying nonsense like he’s getting the same feel like Obama 08 further giving people false hope . It’s all smoke and mirrors, but in 2028 it will be the same thing all over again

Decisive victory, also a historic one, but wasn't a landslide.

Trump has ~49.9% of the popular vote so far with a 1.6% gap on Harris. This is not a particularly large popular margin for a US president, roughly top of the bottom quartile, historically.

List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia



This is recalled by heart, but I think I heard the swing state gap was 100,000 votes this year, about 2%.



Trump's electoral margin was 44th largest out of 60 presidential elections.

List of United States presidential elections by Electoral College margin - Wikipedia

[Dirks_Finale]

Decisive victory, also a historic one, but wasn't a landslide.

Trump has ~49.9% of the popular vote so far with a 1.6% gap on Harris. This is not a particularly large popular margin for a US president, roughly top of the bottom quartile, historically.

List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia



This is recalled by heart, but I think I heard the swing state gap was 100,000 votes this year, about 2%.



Trump's electoral margin was 44th largest out of 60 presidential elections.

List of United States presidential elections by Electoral College margin - Wikipedia

What I found to be remarkable is the overall Trump shift to the right, though.

NJ/VA look as though they could be swing states soon thanks to Trump.

TX went Trump +6 in 2020. It is now Trump +14. And that is with an abortion ban

Florida was a semi swing state. Now it is Trump +13

The GOP can only hope the Democrats roll out another flip-flopping, boring, low IQ, DEI candidate next time around. But sadly I think the left has learned their lesson.

[Blake]

What I found to be remarkable is the overall Trump shift to the right, though.

NJ/VA look as though they could be swing states soon thanks to Trump.

TX went Trump +6 in 2020. It is now Trump +14. And that is with an abortion ban

Florida was a semi swing state. Now it is Trump +13

The GOP can only hope the Democrats roll out another flip-flopping, boring, low IQ, DEI candidate next time around. But sadly I think the left has learned their lesson.

What lesson?

[Dirks_Finale]

Hilarious.

The left got all giddy over that stupid azz poll

All they had to do was click on it and read it and you could clearly see they found a bunch of libs and never Trump people to talk to.

Meanwhile, Atlas and Trafalgar nailed it AGAIN. I'm sure 538 will ax them calling them unreliable right wing polls Their aggregate is already flawed garbage since they axed very accurate Rasmussen (had Trump up a point nationally and in all swing states the entire time). The left loves to sit in their echo chamber and let Michael Moore and Lichtman tickle their itching ears.

[Blake]

Hilarious.

The left got all giddy over that stupid azz poll

All they had to do was click on it and read it and you could clearly see they found a bunch of libs and never Trump people to talk to.

Meanwhile, Atlas and Trafalgar nailed it AGAIN. I'm sure 538 will ax them calling them unreliable right wing polls Their aggregate is already flawed garbage since they axed very accurate Rasmussen (had Trump up a point nationally and in all swing states the entire time). The left loves to sit in their echo chamber and let Michael Moore and Lichtman tickle their itching ears.

Thanks to her, I guess Dem voters got complacent, huh.

[TSA]

Decisive victory, also a historic one, but wasn't a landslide.

Trump has ~49.9% of the popular vote so far with a 1.6% gap on Harris. This is not a particularly large popular margin for a US president, roughly top of the bottom quartile, historically.

List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia



This is recalled by heart, but I think I heard the swing state gap was 100,000 votes this year, about 2%.



Trump's electoral margin was 44th largest out of 60 presidential elections.

List of United States presidential elections by Electoral College margin - Wikipedia

[TSA]

Hilarious.

The left got all giddy over that stupid azz poll

All they had to do was click on it and read it and you could clearly see they found a bunch of libs and never Trump people to talk to.

Meanwhile, Atlas and Trafalgar nailed it AGAIN. I'm sure 538 will ax them calling them unreliable right wing polls Their aggregate is already flawed garbage since they axed very accurate Rasmussen (had Trump up a point nationally and in all swing states the entire time). The left loves to sit in their echo chamber and let Michael Moore and Lichtman tickle their itching ears.

Blake deployed the semen shield for Selzer

Lol Iowa Register poll is cited every damn election as a gold standard, but now it's an "outlier".

Pure cope.

No clue what she was thinking releasing such a poll

Lol " poll"

Trump speak

IT'S FAKE POLL MEDIA


"Former President Donald Trump has branded top Iowa pollster Ann Selzer a "Trump-hater", and described her weekend poll, which put Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of him by 3 points, as "suppression"...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...llegal-1979569

This was from June:

"Two weeks after he was convicted in a New York courtroom of multiple felony counts, former Republican president Donald Trump still holds a double-digit lead over Democratic in bent Joe Biden in Iowa.

A new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows Trump leads Biden 50% to 32% among likely voters. "

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...l/74088665007/

I don't recall any cries of FAKE back then

Copyright 2020, Des Moines Register and Tribune Co.

Republican President Donald Trump has taken over the lead in Iowa as Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden has faded, a new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows just days before Election Day.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...en/6061937002/

FAAAKE

Selzer...Harris +3

Reality...Trump +13

Torched her reputation and quit.

[Winehole23]

Semantics

What is a mandate?

It's whatever you can get away with.

Trump's program will be hobbled by corruption, incompetence and infighting, like last time.

There's also a political price to be paid for overreaching, that will surely happen too.

[Winehole23]

Y'all hate government. Y'all will govern badly, hurting everyone.

I know that's the plan, but it could backfire. Resentment is more powerful than ideology.

[koriwhat]

Y'all hate government. Y'all will govern badly, hurting everyone.

I know that's the plan, but it could backfire. Resentment is more powerful than ideology.

Can't be worse than the last four yrs. your ideology!

[ElNono]

Can't be worse than the last four yrs. your ideology!

I mean, a million dead americans is both qualitatively and quan atively much worse than the last four years, tbh...

[Winehole23]

Can't be worse than the last four yrs

oh, you sweet summer child