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I take it back then. We should definitely totally rely on these other picks to yield a second star. Good call.
It's still early and the EC is a tight mess. Atlanta is two wins better than the 6 and 7 teams in the lottery and you could say those two wins are the Celtics sleepwalking to a late game loss and the wild win against the Kings who were missing like three key starters.
So, it's a long season. They've looked better than I expected with Daniels being very good and Risacher contributing. I still don't think they're very good. I trust Minnesota's 8-7 record, who are right behind them in the overall standings, than their 7-8.
The season will depend a lot on breaks.
I take it back then. We should definitely totally rely on these other picks to yield a second star. Good call.
It would work if you have Durant, westbrook, harden and ibaka (ironically the one that the most return, it’s like that guy who traded away a paper clip and got a house back after 164 trades) or Garnett and Pierce to trade away, and not dejounte Murray and Derrick white (who can actually net a pretty good return now).
The spurs started off with way less assets than the other two examples. It’s a tough strategy to pull off.
Except that OKC got their return from PG13, not their franchise guys, and it was forced by Kawhi wanting PG 13, so he really ed us twice.
PG13s last season in OKC he finished 3rd in MVP voting, 3rd in DPOY voting, was an All Star, and NBA 1st Team Selection, averaging 28/8/4. Might be safe to assume he was OKC's franchise guy.
Let me clarify: not the guys he listed, Russ, KD, Beard, Ibaka.
PG13 came from oladipo and domantis who came from ibaka. I think.
So far they are getting smoked by the Warriors.
Right now, Hawks are about as good as what they were expected to be: they're a play-in team.
Their pick will be, either #15 or #16 if they qualify for the playoffs through the play-in, or between #8 and #12 if they failed in the play-in tournament.
Beyond this year pick, I'm also starting to wonder if Trae, despite being 26 years old, isn't past his prime.
Take, for example, a stat like PER:
2021-22: 25.4
2022-23: 22.0
2023-24: 20.3
2024-25: 17.0
The main reason of that drop is that he is doing less and less damage in the paint. He is turning more and more into a high volume with a questionable efficiency perimeter shooter.
i know we all want a high pick now, especially with this draft class, but this trade is a dub if we get ONE top 5 pick in 25, 26 or 27.
We won that trade the moment we got the Victor pick. Anything else coming in the future is gravy.
^ this
Anything 12 or higher this upcoming draft is great. Top 10 with some lottery luck would obviously be the best case
Both of these are correct, and I'm glad ya'll mentioned them. There will be natural disappointment with getting something like pick #15 versus pick #5, but it's still a massive win because 1) it allowed us to get Vic and 2) it gets us a chance to infuse more talent
Sometimes I feel like our fanbase doesn't realize that we're arguably the luckiest team in the league.
Garbage team in danger of being relocated -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who saved the franchise and won MVP.
That #1 pick is out of his prime, gets injured -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who turns out to be one of the greatest ever.
Years of garbage with no turnaround in sight -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who's arguably an even bigger prospect than two previous #1 picks we had.
It's just ridiculous how lucky we were.
Then a year later we move up with our pick and also get the Raptors pick.
If we drop in every single lottery for the next decade it still wouldn't be enough to make up for all the lottery luck we had.
It's time for PATFO to build a contender with actual moves rather than hopes and prayers to lottery Gods...or was it CIA Pop doing all the work?
i had been hoping that the East standing would see a regression to the mean and i do think we are starting to see that with the Bucks and the Pacers, I had hoped we'd also start to see it with Philly, but their season is off to such a disastrous start that one would have to wonder if they start thinking about a legit tank should these injuries continue to happen (PG just reinjured the same knee he had hurt in the preseason). if this happens, that's one less team that i had penciled in as finishing with a better record than ATL.
PREACH BROTHER!
was hoping chicago or charlotte would rise,But they are just a bas as the rest of them.Curious to see what detroit and nets do
to help them tank or decide to try for play in.
no unless we get both Flagg and Dybantsa this has all been a complete failure
We're gonna end up with four picks beyond the 15 next season.
a veritable draft pick implications super bowl tonight with ATL CHI at 7pm cst
FWIW, Atlanta has faced one of the easiest schedules in the league is and still 2 games under .500. This models them at the 9th worst winning percentage if you factor that in.
https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/EWP
lets go bulls
Trae hasn't looked great battling through his achilles injury tbh. At some point, they might have to give him some extended rest considering they're getting guys like Bogi and Hunter back.
Go Bulls Go!!!
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