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    FWIW, Atlanta has faced one of the easiest schedules in the league is and still 2 games under .500. This models them at the 9th worst winning percentage if you factor that in.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/EWP
    yeah they've had 3 games vs the wizards so far and are 1-2 in those games

    the one that stung was them beating Charlotte in a close one

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    it's def a long season gotta keep that in mind

    but those close wins or against good teams they should've lost totally burn for me as missed opportunities to bury ATL early

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    a veritable draft pick implications super bowl tonight with ATL CHI at 7pm cst
    This will either be a double plus or a double minus.

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    Double dip again if Chi win Atl today

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    The CHI pick, top 10 protected but only for this year and then it’s gone? I know the Charlotte turns into 2 SRPs like a reverse butterfly.

    Remind me again where does ATL have to fall to be back in lottery for their pick we own?

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    it's def a long season gotta keep that in mind

    but those close wins or against good teams they should've lost totally burn for me as missed opportunities to bury ATL early
    I wouldn’t worry since they don’t have any incentive to tank with us controlling their next 3 years FRPs. The best feature of ATL beyond that is they truly do suck and could lose plenty of games just due to that, including to some bad teams.

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    Winner chicken dinner the dual W and L are in the bag tonight! On a slow night otherwise I’ll take that!

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    The CHI pick, top 10 protected but only for this year and then it’s gone? I know the Charlotte turns into 2 SRPs like a reverse butterfly.

    Remind me again where does ATL have to fall to be back in lottery for their pick we own?
    If CHI doesn't convey this year, it goes to Top 8 protected the next two years. Plenty of time for that one.

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    Atlanta is just SO bad defensively.

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    And Boom, ATL flips from 16 to 10 with one loss.

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    Atlanta is just SO bad defensively.
    I watched most of the second quarter and the Hawks committed some ridiculous live ball turnovers. The Bulls had a couple themselves but the Hawks looked very undisciplined.

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    And Boom, ATL flips from 16 to 10 with one loss.
    They are packed in a pile of dung, 8 teams with 9 or 10 losses which we may be rising above. OR we get a lotto pick potentially.

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    They are packed in a pile of dung, 8 teams with 9 or 10 losses which we may be rising above. OR we get a lotto pick potentially.
    I thought that if they traded Trae, they’d be worse, but I almost want them to keep him now. His game has been sliding the past few years to the point that his PER, a quick and dirty first gen advanced stat, has slid from 25,22,20,17. The league average PER is 15, and it’s considered an offensive weighted stat. And his defense is awful.

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    I thought that if they traded Trae, they’d be worse, but I almost want them to keep him now. His game has been sliding the past few years to the point that his PER, a quick and dirty first gen advanced stat, has slid from 25,22,20,17. The league average PER is 15, and it’s considered an offensive weighted stat. And his defense is awful.
    Yep his play his not a winning formula and they are in a weird state of limbo with a losing record probable. Burn ATL burn.

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    Yep his play his not a winning formula and they are in a weird state of limbo with a losing record probable. Burn ATL burn.

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    Sometimes I feel like our fanbase doesn't realize that we're arguably the luckiest team in the league.
    Garbage team in danger of being relocated -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who saved the franchise and won MVP.
    That #1 pick is out of his prime, gets injured -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who turns out to be one of the greatest ever.
    Years of garbage with no turnaround in sight -> lottery win with consensus #1 pick who's arguably an even bigger prospect than two previous #1 picks we had.

    It's just ridiculous how lucky we were.
    Then a year later we move up with our pick and also get the Raptors pick.
    If we drop in every single lottery for the next decade it still wouldn't be enough to make up for all the lottery luck we had.

    It's time for PATFO to build a contender with actual moves rather than hopes and prayers to lottery Gods...or was it CIA Pop doing all the work?
    It was me

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    I watched most of the second quarter and the Hawks committed some ridiculous live ball turnovers. The Bulls had a couple themselves but the Hawks looked very undisciplined.
    Undisciplined is exactly right. They seem to take on Young’s style of play, at least when he’s playing.

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    Still a lot of season left, but the Hawks seem to be spiraling, even with the infusion of Daniels. Love reading the Hawks fans' takes after last night's terrible loss.

    They're as hopeless as we need them to be, tbh.

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    Every time there is discussion of the Hawks about to spiral, Dyson Daniels goes God Mode and brings Atlanta some unexpected wins.

    I propose to ST that we stop tempting the basketball gods and stop predicting their decline. Let it be fate's decision, not ours, lest we appear to be pressing our luck.

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    Every time there is discussion of the Hawks about to spiral, Dyson Daniels goes God Mode and brings Atlanta some unexpected wins.

    I propose to ST that we stop tempting the basketball gods and stop predicting their decline. Let it be fate's decision, not ours, lest we appear to be pressing our luck.
    The Boston and Sacto wins… smh

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    Every time there is discussion of the Hawks about to spiral, Dyson Daniels goes God Mode and brings Atlanta some unexpected wins.

    I propose to ST that we stop tempting the basketball gods and stop predicting their decline. Let it be fate's decision, not ours, lest we appear to be pressing our luck.
    Hey, isn't Spurstalk home of the famous reverse-jinx?! Let's hype them up!

    I've always believed Trae > Luka and he'll soon prove exactly why...........

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    You guys really need to put some respect on Murray's name. Daniels has been better than many expected based on how he was in NOLA but he's still a net negative compared to Dejounte.

    Daniels

    14.2 PPG, 4.9 RB, 3.2 AST, 3.2 ST, 0.9 BLK, 2.0 TO, .448FG, .302 3FG

    Murray last year for ATL

    22.5 PPG, 5.3 RB, 6.4 AST, 1.4 ST, .3 BLK, 2.6 TO, .459FG, .363 3FG

    Dyson is slightly better defensively (in terms of steals but DBPM Murray was still better) but otherwise Dejounte was a way more impactful player. I too am impressed at how well Daniels has played given his first 2 years and it looks like a good trade for ATL but the trade hasn't made them better. It's made them worse and it helps them financially but Dyson isn't saving them from being .

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    lol CIAPop that is one of a 4th post ever since 2013

    dedicated to the grind

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    The Boston and Sacto wins… smh
    Sacto is currently in the lottery. People are still hanging on to two years ago,but they ain’t that good. They dropped off pretty sharply last year,and don’t appear to be rebounding.

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    I find myself with more time on my hands lately.

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