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    Spurstalk continues to show it's ass around basketball knowledge.
    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.

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    Luka is bigger and (usually) a better shooter. SGA is more athletic and shiftier tbh. Different players for different rosters tbh.

    I'm not saying Castle isn't gonna be a stud, quite the contrary. I just think long term, pairing him with a more traditional PG with a quicker first step and better shooting is what takes this roster to the next level. Like I think Boogie Fland would be a great pick even if he doesn't have the size that the FO usually drafts for.
    I liked the Tre Jones pairing with Castle, but wish that Tre can shoot better. There were some sets before that used Tony Parker for the corner 3

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    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.
    Mostly yes, but I do wonder if people would have been butthurt with the choice if both Castle and Reed were still available at 4. The Jimmer Reed stans were out and about then (not so much now…)

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    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.
    I seem to recall Dejounte saying he was a role player at best. So that's one, at least.

    Btw, weren't you the one who said McCain was going to ball out from this draft? That's a of a call.

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    I seem to recall Dejounte saying he was a role player at best. So that's one, at least.

    Btw, weren't you the one who said McCain was going to ball out from this draft? That's a of a call.
    You got the wrong guy, tbh. It was probably an early opinion for the first month of scouting last year’s players, then I was on board before a lot of people. So I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of someone else.

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    You got the wrong guy, tbh. It was probably an early opinion for the first month of scouting last year’s players, then I was on board before a lot of people. So I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of someone else.
    My dude I was staring at the post you made when I wrote that. Don't duck your previous comments. Be a man.

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    I'd say his shooting is still a huge question mark. That airball on that wide open 15 footer was ugly as . If he fixes that, the sky is the limit.
    I was hoping that ball slipped out or was tipped or something when it happened. He has the confidence to keep shooting, though, which is big, and if he's working as hard as CP3 says he is, then he's only going to get better.

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    My dude I was staring at the post you made when I wrote that. Don't duck your previous comments. Be a man.
    Bump it, and I’ll show you exactly my posts that fit the context I was describing. Let’s do this, lol.

    Like I said, you’ll find early opinions from preliminary scouting and then you might find posts of me trying to antagonize rascal because I love to spite that dude for how racist he is.

    At least a month before the draft my mind was changed and I likened Castle to Jimmy Butler on multiple accounts.

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    Castle looks like a combo of Jrue Holiday and Jaylen Brown already.
    His frame looks like he could add a lot of muscle, like Brown.

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    People fighting over nothing means SpursTalk is BACK which means THE SPURS ARE BACK

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    People fighting over nothing means SpursTalk is BACK which means THE SPURS ARE BACK

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    No beef here, just saying the guy is wrong and I have time to pull up the receipts if it needs to happen.

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    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.
    , I'll volunteer as tribute.

    There were a lot of us(yes including myself) that wanted Sheppard. But with him gone at 3, Castle seemed the right choice at 4. However, picking him had felt like getting a consolation prize to me.

    I doubted his ability to play PG at the NBA level and very much doubted his ability to shoot the ball proficiently.

    Then, otoh, I was one of the few who was not upset at trading away the 8th pick. I thought we got a decent haul for it, considering the weak draft. I was quite content with the deal even before we used that salary for Barnes and an additional unprotected swap.

    All this is to say that I was one of those who was not overly enthused about the draft. Just not necessarily for the reasons you've listed.

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    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.
    Nailed it most everyone liked Castle at 4 it was everything after that pick people were hating on

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    So true

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    , I'll volunteer as tribute.

    There were a lot of us(yes including myself) that wanted Sheppard. But with him gone at 3, Castle seemed the right choice at 4. However, picking him had felt like getting a consolation prize to me.

    I doubted his ability to play PG at the NBA level and very much doubted his ability to shoot the ball proficiently.

    Then, otoh, I was one of the few who was not upset at trading away the 8th pick. I thought we got a decent haul for it, considering the weak draft. I was quite content with the deal even before we used that salary for Barnes and an additional unprotected swap.

    All this is to say that I was one of those who was not overly enthused about the draft. Just not necessarily for the reasons you've listed.
    I wanted Sheppard too, cause I thought he could have Danny Green or Derrick White like defensive impact while being an elite shooter. That doesn't seem to be in the cards, though it's still only 1/5 into his rookie season.

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    Wait a sec, guys. Have we decided that Sheppard is a bust? Last I saw he was shooting 39 percent from three for a team that doesn't need to speed his development along. He'd have had a place here. I'm happier with Castle for now, but I'd gave been happier with two players, even if it cost us the corpse of Harrison Barnes, who has been a great fit.

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    I wanted Sheppard too, cause I thought he could have Danny Green or Derrick White like defensive impact while being an elite shooter. That doesn't seem to be in the cards, though it's still only 1/5 into his rookie season.
    Julian reminds me of LDN, but he's more mature at this stage.

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    Wait a sec, guys. Have we decided that Sheppard is a bust? Last I saw he was shooting 39 percent from three for a team that doesn't need to speed his development along. He'd have had a place here. I'm happier with Castle for now, but I'd gave been happier with two players, even if it cost us the corpse of Harrison Barnes, who has been a great fit.
    I don't know why the Rockets don't send him to the g-league and give him a 40% usage, tbh.

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    Nice breakdown of the end the game from Castle and Wemby from the 1:07:00 mark

    https://www.youtube.com/live/CJQbp99...49CP6EXz8aAU1s

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    I don't think there was a single ST poster who didn't like the Castle pick. Trading 8 and then drafting a useless player in the second round is what pisses people off.
    There were a few who still wanted Dillingham.

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    Wait a sec, guys. Have we decided that Sheppard is a bust? Last I saw he was shooting 39 percent from three for a team that doesn't need to speed his development along. He'd have had a place here. I'm happier with Castle for now, but I'd gave been happier with two players, even if it cost us the corpse of Harrison Barnes, who has been a great fit.
    I don't think Sheppard is a bust. None of these guys are. These things take time.

    To me it's clear Sheppard has drawbacks that will need to be accounted for. He doesn't have much self-creation. He's also potentially a great team defender but has issues on-ball. This isn't much different from what we saw in college. He may become a dangerous off-ball shooter and connector and someone who can be covered on the other side. He's a smart player on a talented team.

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    Very few were on Castle, Mr. Body and Baseline Bum were two of the ones who were early on Castle.

    Most here wanted the Kentucky guards over Castle. Most said they didn't want Castle because he couldn't shoot.

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    There were a few who still wanted Dillingham.
    I admit I was one of them. But after some reflection I believe they did the right thing. Even though its not a glamorous move in the moment. I don't think Dillingham is going to be an All-Star level player. But if he produces just shy of that level he'll demand a pretty significant contract and his trade value likely won't exceed that of the 1st round pick we obtained. Dilly has expensive role player vibes. So you're either paying a guy at the same time you're gonna have to pay Wemby and Castle or you have a bargaining chip in that 1st to help round out your team. Minny is not a perpetual winner either so that pick could be pretty solid right when we need it most. So many teams are playoff bound but not contenders all while having little to no picks and cap strung.

    Stockpiling picks isn't bad business.

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    I do remember there being a strong dilly over castle segment of spurstalk (and more so sheppard if fallen) and me wanting to throw my computer over just the thought of having a trae like defensive lacking guard. I feel like sometimes this forum has convenient amnesia.

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    I don't think Sheppard is a bust. None of these guys are. These things take time.

    To me it's clear Sheppard has drawbacks that will need to be accounted for. He doesn't have much self-creation. He's also potentially a great team defender but has issues on-ball. This isn't much different from what we saw in college. He may become a dangerous off-ball shooter and connector and someone who can be covered on the other side. He's a smart player on a talented team.
    yep, i had kentucky guys both over castle. though i also said castle was one of the picks i'd be happy with at 4. the guys i wasnt particularly fond if in the draft were Buzelis and Salaun

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