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    Sure, you dont give them away and theres some context of where SA is sitting come deadline in playoff race, but CP is on a one year deal. You either do it now or lose it. Now, of course flip side is also true; teams aren’t going to maximize every contract in a trade etc…sometimes, its ok to just let a player play out his deal and they move on. Not going to moneyball every move.

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    We got Barnes and a 2031 pick swap for basically nothing more than paying his salary. Wow, it seems like someone in our front office did their homework and someone in Sacramento got a slap across the head. Good job HB.
    How much have the Spurs gotten out of teams wanting DDR?

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    Legit question whether I would trade HB this season. Almost think he and CP for the full season is invaluable. Depends on whether they're poking toward a play-in spot.

    This summer, I'd be open, as by then you'd hope to fill in around him with existing players and we don't need him long term at 33 yo. During the season, I might want a Jonathan Kuminga-ish younger player. Not him, because he wants to be paid, but a younger long-term piece.
    nah, if the team looks primed to make a playoff/play-in run, theres no shot you trade him midseason. he's too valuable, not just for the immediate production, but everything else he provides. and if the team manages to get even into the play-in, that experience alone is worth something. you can entertain moving him in the offseason as an expiring contract, but i dont see why you'd be rushing to do that unless its part of a deal for a star caliber player

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    How much have the Spurs gotten out of teams wanting DDR?
    Chicago gave us

    - a first round pick (protected, still owed)
    - Thad Young (who himself was flipped for us to move up from the second round to the #20 pick in the 2022 draft which wound up as... Malaki Branham)
    - 2 second rounders (one was used to draft kennedy chandler then flipped, the other is coming this year)

    and then sacto gave us

    - harrison barnes
    - 2031 unprotected swap
    - 2031 second round pick

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    All I hope is when that ing weak ass bum Devin comes back they keep his ty ass on the bench

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    Chicago gave us

    - a first round pick (protected, still owed)
    - Thad Young (who himself was flipped for us to move up from the second round to the #20 pick in the 2022 draft which wound up as... Malaki Branham)
    - 2 second rounders (one was used to draft kennedy chandler then flipped, the other is coming this year)

    and then sacto gave us

    - harrison barnes
    - 2031 unprotected swap
    - 2031 second round pick
    I believe we sent the 2025 TOR second rounder to DAL in the Reggie Bullock/2030 FRP Swap Deal.

    Just checked, and indeed... this pick came to us, then went to DAL, and now is with DET after the Grimes/THJ trade

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    Congratulations HB!

    Well deserved!

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    If you have a chance to trade away your own playoff push to get another shot at drafting Malaki Branham, you have to do it.


    The .5% chance of getting a Tony Parker late in the first really turns a lot of people on nowadays. Late FRPs and SRPs are getting overrated like crazy.

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    You are 100% correct, Dejounte, we are not trading Keldon due to locker room presence value alone.

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    You are 100% correct, Dejounte, we are not trading Keldon due to locker room presence value alone.
    anyone who even dares to replicate what he does after he’s traded would be considered a fake. I can see a trade happen in the offseason, but not during the season. The Spurs are known for not doing in-season trades, and maybe it’s because they value the formed relationships and not wanting to disrupt chemistry is the reason why.

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    IMO Keldon isn't going anywhere. He's good coming off the bench. He doesn't have to end games. He provides a tough burst off the bench that's still valuable and he's huge to team culture. I don't see any reason to move him right now.

    As for CP, I kinda think if he lasts the entire year then he's going to sign for another one.

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    This is wild considering how washed he looked in the pre-season.
    I guess HB knew better than to blow his load when it didn't matter.
    Wemby, Unc, Champegnie, Castle, and the other Unc. What a lineup!

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    IMO Keldon isn't going anywhere. He's good coming off the bench. He doesn't have to end games. He provides a tough burst off the bench that's still valuable and he's huge to team culture. I don't see any reason to move him right now.

    As for CP, I kinda think if he lasts the entire year then he's going to sign for another one.
    if they make the playoffs/play-in i see this as well

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    Chicago gave us

    - a first round pick (protected, still owed)
    - Thad Young (who himself was flipped for us to move up from the second round to the #20 pick in the 2022 draft which wound up as... Malaki Branham)
    - 2 second rounders (one was used to draft kennedy chandler then flipped, the other is coming this year)

    and then sacto gave us

    - harrison barnes
    - 2031 unprotected swap
    - 2031 second round pick
    All that and then Barnes gets player of the week. HB is all that and a bag of HEB chips. What has DeRozen done lately ?

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    The additions of Barnes, Paul, Castle are getting noticed:

    https://lastwordonsports.com/basketb...castle-barnes/

    The Wemby-Castle-Barnes-Paul-Champagnie lineup has the second best plus/minus of any starting 5 in the NBA.

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    The additions of Barnes, Paul, Castle are getting noticed:

    https://lastwordonsports.com/basketb...castle-barnes/

    The Wemby-Castle-Barnes-Paul-Champagnie lineup has the second best plus/minus of any starting 5 in the NBA.
    they're second in total +/- which is the stat being referenced there

    but on a per possession basis (net rating), they are #1

    the boston starting lineup is #4 in net rating but has way more minutes together, so their aggregate +/- is higher

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    All that and then Barnes gets player of the week. HB is all that and a bag of HEB chips. What has DeRozen done lately ?
    Probably scored 30 points on 28 shots, or some like that.

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    You are 100% correct, Dejounte, we are not trading Keldon due to locker room presence value alone.
    Nah, if you replace KJ saying "Give it up for a sec. HB Western Conf. Player of the week" with "I've been traded to the Indiana Pacers" the rest of the video plays out the same way

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    Nah, if you replace KJ saying "Give it up for a sec. HB Western Conf. Player of the week" with "I've been traded to the Indiana Pacers" the rest of the video plays out the same way
    that's hilarious

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    You can never make a profit if you dont sell high. If Barnes and CP are playing amazing and have worked their value up to where teams are offering you firsts for them, you take it.
    Definitely think Pop-CP3 cut a deal before signing agreeing to move Chris at the deadline if a good situation presents itself. Barnes, on the other hand, I can see here another 3-4 years. He still is just 32 and it seems like Pop just loves him.

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    Definitely think Pop-CP3 cut a deal before signing agreeing to move Chris at the deadline if a good situation presents itself. Barnes, on the other hand, I can see here another 3-4 years. He still is just 32 and it seems like Pop just loves him.
    Sure - Im not saying its a priority; Im saying if someone comes knocking and offers you something of real value for players that aren’t exactly expected to be on your timeline, you have to look at it.

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    All that and then Barnes gets player of the week. HB is all that and a bag of HEB chips. What has DeRozen done lately ?
    Let’s chill some until the picks turn into players. I mean, one of the “prizes” was Malaki Branham…

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    Him and CP are making the Spurs watchable again.

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    That's just awesome.

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    I believe we sent the 2025 TOR second rounder to DAL in the Reggie Bullock/2030 FRP Swap Deal.

    Just checked, and indeed... this pick came to us, then went to DAL, and now is with DET after the Grimes/THJ trade
    I though TOR25-2 was from the Poeltl trade (a first and two seconds), and CHI25-2 is the pick the Bulls gave to the Spurs. The Spurs still have that pick, though it would go to SAC if the Bulls get a top-five record this year.

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