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A very nice story and outcome
Incredible. Congrats Harrison!
A very nice story and outcome
January 19, 2022: As part of a 3-team trade, the San Antonio Spurs traded Bryn Forbes to the Denver Nuggets; the Boston Celtics traded Juan Hernangomez and cash to the San Antonio Spurs; the Denver Nuggets traded Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to the Boston Celtics; and the Denver Nuggets traded cash and a 2028 2nd round draft pick to the San Antonio Spurs. Boston also received a trade exception 2028 2nd-rd pick is DEN own
February 9, 2022: As part of a 3-team trade, the San Antonio Spurs traded Juan Hernangomez to the Utah Jazz; the Portland Trail Blazers traded Tomas Satoransky to the San Antonio Spurs; the Portland Trail Blazers traded Nickeil Alexander-Walker to the Utah Jazz; the Utah Jazz traded Elijah Hughes, Joe Ingles and a 2022 2nd round draft pick (Jabari Walker was later selected) to the Portland Trail Blazers; and the Utah Jazz traded a 2027 2nd round draft pick to the San Antonio Spurs. Utah also received trade exceptions 2027 2nd-rd pick is least favorable least favorable from HOU, IND, MIA or OKC Portland also received a trade exception 2022 2nd-rd pick is MEM own
February 10, 2022: Traded Derrick White to the Boston Celtics for Romeo Langford, Josh Richardson, a 2022 1st round draft pick (Blake Wesley was later selected) and a 2028 1st round draft pick. Boston also received a trade exception 2022 1st-rd pick is BOS own and is top-4 protected 2028 1st-rd pick is a right to swap
February 10, 2022: Traded Drew Eubanks, Thaddeus Young and a 2022 2nd round draft pick (Christian Koloko was later selected) to the Toronto Raptors for Goran Dragic and a 2022 1st round draft pick (Malaki Branham was later selected). Toronto also received a trade exception 2022 2nd-rd pick is DET own 2022 1st-rd pick is top-14 protected
February 9, 2023: Traded Josh Richardson to the New Orleans Pelicans for Devonte' Graham, a 2024 2nd round draft pick (Adem Bona was later selected), a 2026 2nd round draft pick, a 2028 2nd round draft pick and a 2029 2nd round draft pick. 2024 2nd-rd pick is more favorable 2026 2nd-rd pick is least favorable 2028 2nd-rd pick is NOP own 2029 2nd-rd pick is NOP own
February 9, 2023: Traded Jakob Poeltl to the Toronto Raptors for Khem Birch, a 2023 2nd round draft pick (Sidy Cissoko was later selected), a 2024 1st round draft pick (Rob Dillingham was later selected) and a 2025 2nd round draft pick. 2023 2nd-rd pick was TOR own conditional 2024 1st-rd pick is TOR own 2025 2nd-rd pick is TOR own
February 8, 2024: As part of a 3-team trade, the San Antonio Spurs traded Doug McDermott to the Indiana Pacers; the Indiana Pacers traded Buddy Hield to the Philadelphia 76ers; the Philadelphia 76ers traded Furkan Korkmaz, cash, a 2024 2nd round draft pick (Juan Nunez was later selected) and a 2029 2nd round draft pick to the Indiana Pacers; and the Philadelphia 76ers traded Marcus Morris, cash and a 2029 2nd round draft pick to the San Antonio Spurs. 2029 2nd-rd pick is LAC own 2024 2nd-rd pick is more favorable 2029 2nd-rd pick is POR own Indiana also received a trade exception
Indeed - I got confused by the preceding line which mentioned TOR. We have that CHI SRP, but no additional SRPs this year (yet)
Whenever I watched the Kings last season, Harrison Barnes looked like he might have lost a step. But he has been balling for the Spurs recently - and him being a good veteran presence and leader was never in doubt, of course.
Vince i didn’t forget those trades. McDermott one’s negligible and akin to waiving a player
2022 and 2023 were in season trades with a clear goal in mind. When foundation is set and the team is competing, there are hardly any trades.
We aren’t pretending they don’t have this reputation, are we? It’s literally what the media spouts every February.
I actually think we should keep both around for next season. Barnes could even sign an extension as a long term vet and CP3 can still play another year.
The suggestion of trading Unc for another middling FRP, packing in possibly valuable playoff/playin experience, and staring at another non-NBA quality Branham-esque player is ing lunacy. If anything, I’d hope that the team would start aggressively looking at bringing in another piece if, after the next 10-15 games, they’re looking like a legit 8-11 seed team. I’d prefer bringing in another vet sooner rather than later to get a jump start on the acclimation process.
It’s coming from the same group who thinks any trade that’s not for a superstar is a bad one. I’m not even sure they’d trade for a superstar if it came down to it. Over 27? Too old. Making over $15 mil a year? Too much. Low counting stats (with small sample size)? Not good enough. These guys are “homegrown Spur” purists, rigid in their thinking, thinks their archaic (and incorrect) view of how the Spurs did things decades ago is the only way possible. Little do they know that the Spurs have been preaching the philosophy of being able to adapt and pivot when the situation calls for it. The Spurs are adapting to modern times on how to win in this era.
Spot on. The only thing I’d add is that we have a good data set showing how wrong this thinking is. Two “middling” vets have impacted the win total - I think we hit nine wins last season in early Feb. The product on the floor clearly passes the eye test compared to last year.
Not that they can't turn it around, but after 18 games they were 11-7 last year, this year 8-10. We'll see how they do in the next dozen games. They were 18-12 last year after 30 games. So far DD has only gotten them to the next lower level...
For me it's about the (dis)functionality of the team, as I said in the previous post.
Fox, DDR, Sabonis need the ball and aren't good 3pt shooters. Fox is decent on defense, but other two are atrocious.
They also have another scorer in Monk, with Keegan Murray being their only off-ball core player, but he's also a subpar shooter.
Huerter completely fell off for some reason, but even if he was shooting it like he used to, he's another awful defender.
Trey Lyles getting 20mpg in 2024 says enough about that roster.
Devin Carter was supposed to be the point of attack defender, but he got injured.
If Fox actually wants to compete in his prime, he won't accept an extension from them. There will be plenty of suitors for him.
Last year, they drafted #13, which is a lottery pick. They surprised and outscored a number of teams two years ago on the way to the #2 seed, but even then, they got bounced in the first round. The team is built for fun and entertainment, not winning.
Got it all wrong about him and glad to be. I thought he was done and will fall further off the cliff this year, didn't mind it because we got a swap out of it, but man, he is balling. 22 points on 8 shots was just insane.
Not exactly efficient, but the raptors, spurs and bulls probably knew that already.
Does he go back to being invisible when Sochan and Vassell come back?
There is also a mindset of "selling high" is always a winning move, like we're trading BitCoin or something and the objective is to have the largest account balance. Folks forget that the objective is to win basketball games and (eventually) playoff games and (eventually) championships. That doesn't get done by ac ulating the largest amount of trade wins. Last I checked they don't hand out a trophy for that.
I wouldn't trade Barnes but would answer phone calls and only trade him with his approval.
If he is traded, unlikely, then I would want a younger, up-and-coming player or two rather than draft assets.
If he is traded for draft assets, then imo the goal should be to chip those together for an existing players like currency.
Anyway, it's phenomenal that this conversation can even be had.
he waived his trade kicker to be here, his impact on the floor is notable, and his general impact on the team's at ude and moral is evident. i dont see many situations where he'd have more value than for the spurs. a "win now" team doesnt need Harrison Barnes' leadership, they already have that in place. a bad team with compelling assets wont want to pay to add harrison barnes, or they'd have done that during the offseason. the spurs are in the sweet spot of a very young, aspiring play-in team where he's the best of both worlds. same with paul.
i think you were, by a significant margin, the person most opposed to the Barnes acquisition at the time... good to see you come around
I agree in general, but think a team like the Bucks - disregarding what assets they have - could definitely use a hyper-efficient plug-in pro. Even the Warriors. I think they would take him in a second. To me the calculus is 1) whether that's what he wants, 2) whether the Spurs continue to trend toward a play-in/play-off situation, 3) the return value makes it worth it.
It's an unexpected situation and may wane as he reverts to more of a generally good veteran player. But he's on a good contract with one year left. If he's still producing, they'll definitely get calls.
Are you Victor's cousin or something?
Somewhere between "alien" and "Kind of old" sounds about right for meAre you Victor's cousin or something?
I wouldnt trade him, because you wont get enough to make worth it, bad publicity among players. Barnes waived trade kicker, meaning he made some sacrfices to go to Spurs and he is playing good basketball. Small market teams cannot piss off players.
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