Anyone here hurt by rising tariffs/costs yet?

[ChumpDumper]

Since you've already admitted you consider anything over three sentences a "wall of text" that you won't read I can see how you only commented on the bolded part of my post and the word with an emoji next to it.

Republicans didn't suddenly think the economy IS great as the Politico headline suggests.

"Even if the election results provided an immediate boost to sentiment, that uplift mostly came from expectations around the future, rather than the current conditions."

The e in Republican sentiment in the Index of Consumer Sentiment referenced in the Politico article was driven by expectations of the future. Had you taken the time to read my entire post you would have seen that clearly explained and not made a fool out of yourself, again.

When are you planning to think the economy is good?

[ElNono]

"It’s typical for the winning party to see a surge of optimism among its ranks. But pollsters saw the mood shift coming this year for another reason, too: Exit polls showed that voters wanted major change this election — and it was Trump who was ultimately seen as the change agent, as Vice President Kamala Harris struggled to distinguish herself from the Biden administration and the policies voters blamed for their current pocketbook challenges.

The economy is where these divides will be seen the most, and the gap between party sentiments is expected to widen further in the months ahead. It’s a trend that began in the final months before election day, when Republican voters were already expressing rosier outlooks as they anticipated a Trump victory, said Micah Roberts, a partner at Public Opinion Strategies who oversaw the economic questions in the bipartisan NBC and CNBC surveys."

"suddenly"
Politico


ICS observations pre and post elections
Feelings about the economy: is it now or later?

Upward momentum in the ICS has been driven by expectations for business conditions in the next 12 months and 5 years. The index for expectations for personal finances (a year from now) has also been increasing but the incline is not as steep as the outlook for business conditions.

On the contrary, the current conditions for purchases have been mostly flat (with the exception of a slight increase in the last two months) and how consumers view their current personal finances has been declining and then flat-lining in the last six months.

In the aftermath of the election, all five indexes increased. Even if the election results provided an immediate boost to sentiment, that uplift mostly came from expectations around the future, rather than the current conditions. The laggard in terms of magnitude: personal finances current conditions (as a reminder, this index quantifies the question: Would you say that you (and your family) are better off or worse off financially than you were a year ago?). The second slowest increase was for the current buying conditions index.

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analy...elections-2024

https://pro.morningconsult.com/track...umer-sentiment

Republicans aren't lol "suddenly" saying the economy is great. Their sentiment is high about the future. Politico is a joke these days.

I mean, when it comes to the economy, Dennison is being handed a Ferrari again, after the disaster he handed down. Hopefully it lasts him more than two years, unlike the last time around, tbh

[HemisfairArena]

I mean, when it comes to the economy, Dennison is being handed a Ferrari again, after the disaster he handed down. Hopefully it lasts him more than two years, unlike the last time around, tbh

You mean after you demo s shutdown a booming economy because of Covid?,,,,,,

[GAustex]

It’s called selective memory

[ChumpDumper]

You mean after you demo s shutdown a booming economy because of Covid?,,,,,,

It’s called selective memory

Like you didn't remember a million Americans died.

[SnakeBoy]

[ChumpDumper]

What's that going to accomplish besides raising the prices of all that stuff 10%?

caravan!

[HemisfairArena]

Like you didn't remember a million Americans died.

More died under Bidens watch than Trumps and Biden said he was gonna wipe covid out and thats fact,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

More died under Bidens watch than Trumps and Biden said he was gonna wipe covid out and thats fact,,,,,

Biden was president longer under COVID.

Are you pretending you are too stupid to know how time works?

Yes or no.

[HemisfairArena]

Biden was president longer under COVID.

Are you pretending you are too stupid to know how time works?

Yes or no.

Biden lost more in two years than Trump did in two years when it hit,,,,,are you pretending you are too stupid to know how time works?,,,,

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden lost more in two years than Trump did in two years when it hit,,,,,are you pretending you are too stupid to know how time works?,,,,

Yes or no.

COVID started in the US January 18, 2020.

you really don't know anything about time.

[HemisfairArena]

COVID started in the US January 18, 2020.

you really don't know anything about time.

Biden lost more than Trump and you cant admit it,,,,,

[Winehole23]

It's tricky because Republicans made Trump's vaccine a partisan wedge and a lot of people died who didn't need to, but Boomerfair isn't wrong. About 400,000 died under Trump, the rest so far under Biden.

in 2025, Trump's death count will start growing again.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden lost more than Trump and you cant admit it,,,,,

Of course he did.

4>1.

You think 1=2.

[Thread]

More died under Bidens watch than Trumps and Biden said he was gonna wipe covid out and thats fact,,,,,

Bingo!!!

[Winehole23]

400,000 deaths and a wasted opportunity to save lives isn't nothing -- not that Biden improved on it, he did exactly what y'all demanded, a speedy return to normal.

[Winehole23]

Mexico's President Shinebaum responds to Trump's threat of day one tariffs:

Dear President-elect Donald Trump, I am writing to you regarding your statement on Monday, November 25, concerning migration, fentanyl trafficking, and tariffs.

You may not be aware that Mexico has developed a comprehensive policy to assist migrants from different parts of the world who cross our territory en route to the southern border of the United States. As a result, and according to data from your country’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP), encounters at the Mexico–United States border have decreased by 75% between December 2023 and November 2024. Moreover, half of those who arrive do so through a legally scheduled appointment under the United States’ CBP One program. For these reasons, migrant caravans no longer arrive at the border.

Even so, it is clear that we must work together to create a new labor mobility model that is necessary for your country, as well as address the root causes that compel families to leave their homes out of necessity. If even a small percentage of what the United States allocates to war were instead dedicated to building peace and fostering development, it would address the underlying causes of human mobility.

On another note, and for humanitarian reasons, Mexico has consistently expressed its willingness to help prevent the fentanyl epidemic in the United States from continuing. This is, after all, a public health and consumption problem within your society. So far this year, Mexican armed forces and prosecutors have seized tons of various types of drugs, 10,340 firearms, and have detained 15,640 individuals for violence related to drug trafficking.

Furthermore, the Mexican Congress is in the process of approving a cons utional reform to classify the production, distribution, and commercialization of fentanyl and other synthetic drugs as a serious crime without bail. However, it is publicly known that the chemical precursors used to produce this and other synthetic drugs are illegally entering Canada, the United States, and Mexico from Asian countries. This underscores the urgent need for international collaboration.You must also be aware of the illegal trafficking of firearms into my country from the United States.

Seventy percent of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico come from your country. We do not produce these weapons, nor do we consume synthetic drugs. Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours.President Trump, migration and drug consumption in the United States cannot be addressed through threats or tariffs. What is needed is cooperation and mutual understanding to tackle these significant challenges.

For every tariff, there will be a response in kind, until we put at risk our shared enterprises. Yes, shared. For instance, among Mexico’s main exporters to the United States are General Motors, Stellantis, and Ford Motor Company, which arrived in Mexico 80 years ago. Why impose a tariff that would jeopardize them? Such a measure would be unacceptable and would lead to inflation and job losses in both the United States and Mexico.I am convinced that North America’s economic strength lies in maintaining our trade partnership. This allows us to remain compe ive against other economic blocs. For this reason, I believe that dialogue is the best path to understanding, peace, and prosperity for our nations. I hope our teams can meet soon to continue building joint solutions

[Winehole23]

greedflation and regular inflation are entirely to be expected

https://x.com/matthewstoller/status/1861499178217570512

[Blake]

Mexico's President Shinebaum responds to Trump's threat of day one tariffs:

Like he'll read that

[Thread]

400,000 deaths and a wasted opportunity to save lives isn't nothing -- not that Biden improved on it, he did exactly what y'all demanded, a speedy return to normal.

No, he swore on the Good Book... "I'll shut it down." Instead he took us over a million dead Americans and counting.

[Winehole23]

[Winehole23]

Like he'll read that

Trump's a notoriously weak reader

[Winehole23]

(some one will bite-size it for him, if necessary)

[Winehole23]

I do worry about how seriously President-Elect Trump takes the idea of attacking Mexico, even COIN-style. Just seems like a bad idea.

[ChumpDumper]

It will be pretty funny if Joe rides out on a pre-tariff purchasing wave and rubes get nostalgic about late 2024 though they can't quite figure out why.