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im not even a spanish speaker and it seemed obvious tbh
esteban just a spanish sounding version of stephon
castillo translates to castle
Nah, I stole that comment from twitter.
im not even a spanish speaker and it seemed obvious tbh
esteban just a spanish sounding version of stephon
castillo translates to castle
The fit is questionable for starters for the exact reason you stated: we have to see it. Until then, it's a question.
I don't think they compliment in theory quite as well as you, but I think it can work out if Devin can play more off ball. Devin trying to be a playmaker and then dribbling himself into a difficult shot works less because with Castle there is less need for Devin to try and be an ISO scorer. However, this is something we probably wanted to see less of from Devin anyway. He'll need to transition into more of an off-the-ball scorer. I'm confident he can, but until we sit it... it's a question.
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Tbh, to me it feels like he'd be better suited for that role because playmaking and drawing fouls are his biggest flaws.
He moves well off the ball, gets into positions, can make good cuts and can easily beat late closeouts off the dribble.
PNR here and there, but shouldn't do it too much.
A traditional shooting guard.
I agree. But he also seems to think of himself as Kobe. If he can stay disciplined in the role he actually excels at, I think we'll be golden. But we saw times last year, he gets these hero ball tendencies from time to time. Those need to be kept in check. Wemby is the only one who can get away with that, everyone else needs to stick with the team ball philosophy that is working (and someone needs to get the memo to Keldon, ASAP)
absolutely which is why I want to see him with the starters in Champagnie's spot. He can do the iso thing when he's out there with the bench and they need to score. Devin being wide open is basically a guaranteed bucket. I always thought he was put in that position as an iso scorer last year to develop his game more so than to actually be that player in the future.
Vassell was suppossed to be this elite defensive prospect, whatever happened to that.
His offensive game expanded. It happens tbh. KAT was supposed to have strong defensive potential coming out of Kentucky.
dumbim not even a spanish speaker and it seemed obvious tbh
esteban just a spanish sounding version of stephon
castillo translates to castle
he's a good team defender, just not good as a point of attack defender. There was a video from Sam Vecenie where he analyzed Castle's defense and he raved about how Castle fought over the screen and then recovered, only to find out it was actually Vassell and Castle was the guy in the corner
Also y'all be judging Vassell's defense off of last year, where the defensive schemes where trash and the whole team outside of Wemby sucked on defense.
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A lot of hero ball was on noone else being able to step up.
What frustrated me even more was how he just passively watched Keldon and Jeremy chuck us out of many games without ever asserting himself as the primary perimeter option.
I think everyone on this roster knows playing with Wemby will be the best chance they'll have to compete and they'll all try their best not to it up.
If Devin needs to become an elite off-ball player, he'll do it...or at least try to.
I think I'd still like to see Champ starting, but with Vassell still getting 32+ minutes off the bench and being part of the closing lineup. I like the idea of Devin coming off the bench just because I don't think we necessarily need anything more than Champ out of the starting five right now - and Devin coming in off the bench extends the length of having an alpha scorer on the court. Similar philosophy as when Manu moved to the bench. I also think Devin in place of Champ would hurt the defense, because I don't think Devin is as well suited to guard 3s as Champ is. For example, Devin wouldn't have been able to do what Champ did to Lauri yesterday.
I will be happy to be wrong, but at times I feel like Devin thinks he can be/should be the alpha on this team... and that's what concerns me. We will see - hope I am dead wrong on that!
The only time I ever got an inkling of that was last season where Devin seemed to get annoyed by the constant Wemby questions during a post game presser. In his defense, I think they had lost like 15 straight at that point so I'd be pissed off too.
I haven't seen nothing but positive vibes from Vassell since tbh
that has been the case last season as well, since one of Wemby or Vassell was always out there with the bench. He doesn't have to come off the bench to do that. Of course you can use him like we used Manu back in the day, but I'd definitely start him just to see how that looks. Besides that Wemby loves Devin and loves to play with him. That's super obvious.
if we look at the version of devin we saw the last couple of years... i think i have to agree. he obviously has starter talent, but if his main asset right now is going to be on-ball creation (also averaged over 5 APG post-break last year), thats not really the most needed skill when we have CP3, and Castle playing too well to bench.
right now thats something the bench sorely lacks. Tre Jones hasnt been very good this year. Wesley has shown the continued progression we saw in the preseason... but his offense definitely runs dry quite a bit. that unit really could use some creation from the other guard spot. champagnie also just has more size/strength than vassell which enables him to hang with forwards on the other end, as you mentioned.
my issue with julian is that for a 3&D type player, his 3pt shooting really hasnt been all that good. he did go off in the 4th yesterday, but he's at 35% for the season, and was at 36.5% last year. he shot 40% his first year here, but on a 15 game sample size. and to the extent he can knock down shots, he's not a movement shooter (yet). but with Barnes being a corner sniper, Paul being able to pull up, and Wemby suddenly becoming a good 3pt shooter... we can get away with julian's on and off shooting for now.
if we keep the hot starting lineup going... we could be looking at a pretty filthy bench unit with Wesley/Vassell/Keldon/Sochan/Collins (Bassey pls)
Devin's onball creation ability and him being able to pull up off the dribble is actually why I think him and Castle would be a very nice back court tandem. Both can play on and off the ball. They also compliment each other on defense with Castle being point of attack and Devin more of a help defender. That should definitely be exploited although I'm fine with starting CP3 for now to teach the young guys.
He was an elite team defender, and was never presented as a POA defender.
If we're talking Castle and Devin in the backcourt, I definitely agree... but for now I don't think a Devin for CP3 swap out is on the table. It would have to be Devin for Champ, which I'm less excited about.
If you think about it, Vassell and Castle had pretty similar profiles coming out of college. Both two way guards that played on an equalitarian system on stacked teams. I think that experience could lead to them gelling pretty well, tbh.
Vassell needs to start if he can ever get healthy. The only thing Champ has on him is a couple of inches. Vassell is better in every regard otherwise, if we're to assume he won't have to carry the load as heavily as Wemby Year 1 except when matchups incline as such/he feels like it.
right now champ is a better defender than him, and he frankly plays bigger. its not just that his listed height is a few inches taller.
in a vacuum vassell is obviously the better player, i dont think thats being discussed. but as far as what's needed to complement the rest of the Paul/Castle/Barnes/Wemby lineup... Devin's game seems a little superfluous right now, especially with our bench not having very good offensive creation (wesley/tre/keldon/zollins...)
Dude, most of the time he was tasked with defending the other team's PG in college.
https://www.nba.com/wizards/2020-nba...-devin-vassellStrengths: Vassell is arguably one of the best and most athletic wing defenders in this year’s draft. He can guard on-ball and off-ball, with a 6’10” wingspan that projects him to guard ‘1’ through ‘4’ at the next level. He shot 41.5% from deep his sop re season, sporting a 56.5% effective field goal percentage.
https://hoopshype.com/devin-vassell-scouting-report/A 3-and-D wing who is a better scorer than given credit for… Can knock down contested shots thanks to plus-length and high release point on jumper… Solid shooter off the dribble… Nice defender one-on-one and as a help defender… Accurate three-point shooter as well… Not a freakish athlete… Won’t blow by defenders, but can use craftiness to score out of the midrange anyway.
The line up of the future is likely Steph, Dev, Champ, Sochan, and Wembs. It’s just a matter of time— as soon as the inevitable annual CP3 injury tbh.
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