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    Easily Castles worst game of the year yes. Too much turkey.

    Vic looked great but can be lackadaisical on help D sometimes. Feel like he could easily get 1-3 more blocks/gm.

    Good to see Vassell burning it. Agreed with everyone here, at this point his long term future is dependent on his health.

    We officially need a backup C if we want to make deep playoff runs in near future. Current guys ain’t it.

    Loved that free throw cam. Is that new to the NBA or just the Kings have it?

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    This starting lineup should stay the same.Wemby has been looking like a mvp with this unit.You dont fck that up.
    I think they'll end up sending Steph to the bench and inserting Dev. Last night was the first game in a while that i thought Dev played well within the flow of the offense, and not trying to be the primary dude (which hes not anymore). Meanwhile, Champ has been excellent in his role with the starters, and I'm not sure he impacts the game the same way with the second unit.

    The open question is the defense. Can the combo of Dev and Sochan help cover up for CP3's lost step in the way Steph does?

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    After 20 games, Spurs are 11-9 with their starting lineup featuring:
    - Castle and Wembanyama: two 20 years old players.
    - Paul: a 39 years old player who was washed up for a lot of people (including myself tbqh).
    - Barnes: a solid vet whose previous team had to give up a first round pick swap just to get rid of his contract.
    - Champagnie: undrafted player claimed from waivers.

    And they are led by a rookie coach...

    Spurs are doing damn well despite having a quite unconventional team.
    Wemby is the definition of a "cheat code"

    Just imagine if he had a proper coach and a better roster

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    I think they'll end up sending Steph to the bench and inserting Dev. Last night was the first game in a while that i thought Dev played well within the flow of the offense, and not trying to be the primary dude (which hes not anymore). Meanwhile, Champ has been excellent in his role with the starters, and I'm not sure he impacts the game the same way with the second unit.

    The open question is the defense. Can the combo of Dev and Sochan help cover up for CP3's lost step in the way Steph does?
    That would be a crime to demote Spurs bright future to the bench. On the contrary, he needs more touches as a starter, and inserting Vassell would take those touches away from him. Champ by default is a perfect compliment as not needing as many touches and would more likely deteriorate in the 2nd squad. It’s a good problem.

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    Nice showing from Devin. His shotmaking and shot creation is just invaluable, especially whenever CP3 is no longer on the team.

    Champ continues to impress.

    When everybody is healthy and off minutes restriction, the SL needs to be: CP3/Devin/Champ/Sochan/Wemby

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    Nice showing from Devin. His shotmaking and shot creation is just invaluable, especially whenever CP3 is no longer on the team.

    Champ continues to impress.

    When everybody is healthy and off minutes restriction, the SL needs to be: CP3/Devin/Champ/Sochan/Wemby
    Its best wemby has a pf that can shoot.Sochan needs to be on the bench

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    Its best wemby has a pf that can shoot.Sochan needs to be on the bench
    If Wemby being an average 3pt shooter is legit (and I think it is) then I think him and Sochan can co-exist in the SL especially if they have CP3/Devin/Champagnie for spacing purposes

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    If Wemby being an average 3pt shooter is legit (and I think it is) then I think him and Sochan can co-exist in the SL especially if they have CP3/Devin/Champagnie for spacing purposes
    We were starting to see a nice dynamic of Wemby hitting a cutting Sochan to the hoop. This is another area where Vic’s shooting helps us, opening lane space for cutters when the defender turns his head to look at Vic.

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    There can only be one non shooter in the starting lineup before the spacing starts ing up.

    If you put sochan back you're losing Castle

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    even though Bassey faceplanted, im glad that Mitch gave him a shot. its not like Collins has played himself into some guaranteed primary reserve spot. he's been fine this year, but bassey had shown plenty of juice and he should continue to get opportunities other than garbage time. im also glad he pulled the plug and gave collins the second half minutes, even though he played poorly as well.

    mitch has spoken about the team's depth in previous pressers. but its not really useful if you arent trying to make use of guys when somebody just isnt getting it done. i've felt similarly about the tre jones/blake wesley dynamic. yes Tre has the consistent track record, seniority, and is simply a more proven, competent player. but other than yesterday prior to getting hurt, he's been ineffective enough this season that i thought his leash should have been shorter. give wesley a few rotation minutes in the first half and see if he has that spark on that day, and if so, ride the hot hand.

    i'd like to see more of that from mitch, even if it means there are games where branham finds minutes. i dont think we are some playoff team with a set 8 man rotatin or anything like that.

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    A+ Grades from timvp, some of his best and most fair in awhile.

    I'd continue to leave the SL as is for now. Devin adds a dynamic off the bench that we are missing. Technically he's still eligible for 6MOY right now In all seriousness, he'll eventually be a long term starter but I would strongly consider letting him be the sixth man this year, still in closing lineups and getting 30+ minutes per game... him coming off the bench just really adds new layers to this team that I think we lose if he goes to the SL. We've got at least a dozen or so games to figure that part out as his ramps up his conditioning.

    Sochan on the other hand, we'll have to see. I also like Barnes in the SL. He didn't light it up last night but he provided a lot of useful rebounding in a game where rebounding was becoming a problem (per usual). I would leave Barnes there for now and see what it looks like with Sochan off the bench.

    Hopefully Bassey gets another opportunity. Whoever mentioned in a comment that he needs to toughen up mentally nailed it. My man let a golden opportunity slip through his giant fingers last night.

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    Nice showing from Devin. His shotmaking and shot creation is just invaluable, especially whenever CP3 is no longer on the team.

    Champ continues to impress.

    When everybody is healthy and off minutes restriction, the SL needs to be: CP3/Devin/Champ/Sochan/Wemby
    yeah the key with devin is for him to get quicker with his decision making. my annoyance with him had been as soon as he caught the ball, he'd stop, measure his guy up, dribble dribble dribble, and then get into his move. im fine with him calling his own number, but he was much quicker about getting into his move yesterday

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    Pretty sure Wemby completed a 4 point play last night and not sure any of us reasonably expected this (at least so soon) when we drafted him. I think even back then we knew it was in his ceiling, yes, and the KD potential comps, granted, but to see it actually unfolding is madness.

    7'3 Center nailing triples with the foul.

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    That would be a crime to demote Spurs bright future to the bench. On the contrary, he needs more touches as a starter, and inserting Vassell would take those touches away from him. Champ by default is a perfect compliment as not needing as many touches and would more likely deteriorate in the 2nd squad. It’s a good problem.
    I don’t want him going to the bench either to be clear. Just don’t see Vassell coming off the bench once he’s fully healthy, so something will have to give.

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    If Wemby being an average 3pt shooter is legit (and I think it is) then I think him and Sochan can co-exist in the SL especially if they have CP3/Devin/Champagnie for spacing purposes
    Agree with this. Feels like the SL lineup once everyone is healthy. Steph first in for CP3 so he can get reps with those guys.

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    Wembys minutes suggest to me that Mitch Johnson is looking to win NOW.

    And i love that!

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    Wembys minutes suggest to me that Mitch Johnson is looking to win NOW.

    And i love that!
    I hear what you're saying. But the 20yo kid played 36mins after 4 days of rest tbh

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    even though Bassey faceplanted, im glad that Mitch gave him a shot. its not like Collins has played himself into some guaranteed primary reserve spot. he's been fine this year, but bassey had shown plenty of juice and he should continue to get opportunities other than garbage time. im also glad he pulled the plug and gave collins the second half minutes, even though he played poorly as well.

    mitch has spoken about the team's depth in previous pressers. but its not really useful if you arent trying to make use of guys when somebody just isnt getting it done. i've felt similarly about the tre jones/blake wesley dynamic. yes Tre has the consistent track record, seniority, and is simply a more proven, competent player. but other than yesterday prior to getting hurt, he's been ineffective enough this season that i thought his leash should have been shorter. give wesley a few rotation minutes in the first half and see if he has that spark on that day, and if so, ride the hot hand.

    i'd like to see more of that from mitch, even if it means there are games where branham finds minutes. i dont think we are some playoff team with a set 8 man rotatin or anything like that.
    It's a good problem to have in comparison to the last few seasons where the roster felt shallow and 'incomplete.'

    Champagnie and Castle might both slide back to the bench, but that will strengthen that group. Plus, with any of Champagnie, Barnes or Sochan on the bench that will mean a lot less of Keldon playing backup PF.

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    Maybe it's just the ridiculously high expectations I have for him, but the gap between Bad Wemby and Good Wemby is the biggest in the league tbh.

    I've never seen a player look like a poor man's Jeff Ayres in one stretch and a mix of Prime Hakeem/Steph Curry in another. It's actually insane.

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    While Castle's shooting has exceeded all expectations, I'm still not sure starting him and Jeremy together would be a good idea.
    We're starting 4 reliable shooters and Castle who can make them, but is still random and has a lot of bad misses.
    Benching Champ or Barnes for Jeremy would require major adjustments to current flow of the offense and it would be way easier for the opponents defend.

    When everyone's healthy, I think CP3/Devin/Champ/Jeremy/Wemby would be the strongest lineup, despite Castle and Barnes playing really well.
    Tbh, after all these awful years, it's a good problem to have. It seems that Mitch won't hesitate to change the starting lineup, bench someone or even DNP them if they're not up to the task.
    Have these young guys fight it out and push each other.

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    even though Bassey faceplanted, im glad that Mitch gave him a shot. its not like Collins has played himself into some guaranteed primary reserve spot. he's been fine this year, but bassey had shown plenty of juice and he should continue to get opportunities other than garbage time. im also glad he pulled the plug and gave collins the second half minutes, even though he played poorly as well.

    mitch has spoken about the team's depth in previous pressers. but its not really useful if you arent trying to make use of guys when somebody just isnt getting it done. i've felt similarly about the tre jones/blake wesley dynamic. yes Tre has the consistent track record, seniority, and is simply a more proven, competent player. but other than yesterday prior to getting hurt, he's been ineffective enough this season that i thought his leash should have been shorter. give wesley a few rotation minutes in the first half and see if he has that spark on that day, and if so, ride the hot hand.

    i'd like to see more of that from mitch, even if it means there are games where branham finds minutes. i dont think we are some playoff team with a set 8 man rotatin or anything like that.
    I’m sure Mitch is really having problem (in a good way) if and when to insert the starters back. Collins/Bassey is really where they are thin. I can live with Brahnam maybe developing into a Gary Neal-type specialist, and Wesley as another POA defender. Will definitely like to extend Barnes and retire as a Spur. And I hope CP3 can stay depending where Spurs record is by the deadline. IF the Spurs are somewhere in the 6th seed, I think they’ll beef-up the backup bigs with a trade and see where that takes them.

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    While Castle's shooting has exceeded all expectations, I'm still not sure starting him and Jeremy together would be a good idea.
    We're starting 4 reliable shooters and Castle who can make them, but is still random and has a lot of bad misses.
    Benching Champ or Barnes for Jeremy would require major adjustments to current flow of the offense and it would be way easier for the opponents defend.

    When everyone's healthy, I think CP3/Devin/Champ/Jeremy/Wemby would be the strongest lineup, despite Castle and Barnes playing really well.
    Tbh, after all these awful years, it's a good problem to have. It seems that Mitch won't hesitate to change the starting lineup, bench someone or even DNP them if they're not up to the task.
    Have these young guys fight it out and push each other.
    This. Castle and Sochan on the floor together is a recipe for disaster. Castle takes Champs spot when he gets a consistent 3 (or takes CP3 spot next year if CP3 is ring chasing).

    Tre Castle Barnes Keldon Collins/Bassey is a solid 2nd unit. Stagger Castle Tre so we don’t have the same issue.

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    Bassey's big game against OKC (12 & 8) Thunder were missing Hart and Chet and I don't think they played a player taller than 6'6. The Thunder started J Dub and Dort as bigs basically.
    Bassey's big game against Jazz (11 & 9 with 6 blks) Kessler was out for the game and yeah Mark and Flip played but Flip got injured and left the game after 18mins. God bless Ewwbanks but he didn't seem to affect things too dominantly.
    Small sample for my argument but his two recent big games have had a similar trend that I noticed and got me thinking. Does Bassey need to prove it against legitimate size/talent bigs? Sabonis was working him at the rim. Contributing to 4 quick fouls in 6 mins making for a short night during the Kings game.

    Spurs could use one of Zollins/Bassey emerging to solve the Wemby backup question mark.

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    While the goal is to Win, I doubt it’s at the expense of benching your future. Castle was trending up except for last night. You keep him learning beside the maestro.

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    There can only be one non shooter in the starting lineup before the spacing starts ing up.

    If you put sochan back you're losing Castle

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