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    it seems pretty obvious to me
    Then it's pretty obvious you don't know much about actual basketball.
    You legit expect a rookie to hold star players to 20% FG or something?

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    Do you think that if you keep repeating that nonsense, which you've been doing for like a month now, people will start believing it?

    Castle is fine against anyone 6'7 or under.
    Today's league is way too offense oriented and even the best defenders get torched sometimes, it's just how it works.
    You can't expect to completely shut down anyone in a game that's designed to have 200+ points per game.

    Castle doesn't get bullied by anyone his size, he just has a horrible whistle and then he starts heistating to get physical again because of foul trouble if refs start calling those minimal contact fouls.

    A couple of weeks ago I listened to a podcast with Derrick and when he was asked about defense, he said the most important thing is mentality.
    He said that the best advice he got was from Demar who made him realize that star players will score on you no matter what and that you shouldn't get discouraged by it.
    (I know, Demar isn't the best guy to give advice on defense, but still.)
    Way over 200 points per game, almost 226 right now, though I get your point.

    About the defense thing, DeMar obviously was never a plus defender but he has torched plenty of good defenders himself. He knows from the offensive side what it's like to see a defender get discouraged.

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    Then it's pretty obvious you don't know much about actual basketball.
    You legit expect a rookie to hold star players to 20% FG or something?
    where did i say it is unexpected or that i expect better from him? I think it is both normal and acceptable. Doesn't mean we shouldn't adjust to this.

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    Might come back in phoenix

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    Durring the broadcast last night I heard Sean and Toby say something about Sochan getting in an altercation with another spur during practice, but they wouldn't say who.

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    Durring the broadcast last night I heard Sean and Toby say something about Sochan getting in an altercation with another spur during practice, but they wouldn't say who.
    Vegas Odds:

    Zollins -125 (the obvious favorite for this prop)
    CP3 +130 (CP3 doesn't take , meanwhile Sochan doesn't really have much respect for elders)
    Mamu +180 (Eastern European Blood runs hot sometimes)
    Bassey +600 (Charlie seems like too nice of a dude)
    Field +105

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    Yeah I was kinda thinking Zollins because he was on the bench the whole 1st half until Bassey was forced out with fouls. CP3 is also a contender because like you said he doesn't take . Mamu and Bassey seem like nice dudes, don't picture it being them. Maybe Keldon, don't they like slapping each other? lol, Maybe it got out of hand?

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    I was thinking Malaki or Blake may be getting salty about their DNPs. That might set something off.

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    I was thinking Malaki or Blake may be getting salty about their DNPs. That might set something off.
    More like they should be happy they got another guaranteed year even though they did nothing to warrant it.

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    More like they should be happy they got another guaranteed year even though they did nothing to warrant it.
    they're the lazy mobsters from sopranos with the no-show and no-work jobs

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    I thought it was something like "he got in it" with someone or something, so maybe an energy play or aggressive defense. I don't think it was an actual altercation.

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    rotation should be interesting going forward with Sochan back. wonder if Mitch is going to bench Castle or have Jeremy come off the bench like DV has been

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    rotation should be interesting going forward with Sochan back. wonder if Mitch is going to bench Castle or have Jeremy come off the bench like DV has been
    For now, I would keep the SL the same and bring Vassell and Sochan slowly.

    CP3, Castle, Champ, Barnes, Wemby

    Tre/Wesley, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Collins

    Once Vassell and Sochan are 100%, I'd start them and bench Champ and Barnes.

    CP3, Castle, Vassell, Sochan, Wemby

    Tre, Champ, Keldon, Barnes, Collins

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    For now, I would keep the SL the same and bring Vassell and Sochan slowly.

    CP3, Castle, Champ, Barnes, Wemby

    Tre/Wesley, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Collins

    Once Vassell and Sochan are 100%, I'd start them and bench Champ and Barnes.

    CP3, Castle, Vassell, Sochan, Wemby

    Tre, Champ, Keldon, Barnes, Collins
    I don't see any reason to bring Sochan along slowly. He didn't have a lower body injury like Vassell.

    Castle's recent struggles prolly make the decision much easier for the coaching staff.

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    I don't see any reason to bring Sochan along slowly. He didn't have a lower body injury like Vassell.

    Castle's recent struggles prolly make the decision much easier for the coaching staff.
    The reason would be giving the best lineup in the entire NBA (CP3, Castle, Champ, Barnes, Wemby) the excuse to have more games starting together, with the added bonus of having Vassell and Sochan coming off the bench. I'm on record saying that I want Vassell and Sochan to comeback to the SL eventually, but if that rotation gets into a crazy run, I'm not against keeping the SL intact and bringing Vassell and Sochan off the bench for the reminder of the season.

    Benching Castle, I don't think would be smart. If the Spurs see him as the 2nd core piece behind Wemby, it doesn't make sense to go from starting him and playing him 30+ minutes per game, to bench him and play him around 20.

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    Going to need Castle defense against Booker and KD so no matter what he should get the start tomorrow.

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    The reason would be giving the best lineup in the entire NBA (CP3, Castle, Champ, Barnes, Wemby) the excuse to have more games starting together, with the added bonus of having Vassell and Sochan coming off the bench. I'm on record saying that I want Vassell and Sochan to comeback to the SL eventually, but if that rotation gets into a crazy run, I'm not against keeping the SL intact and bringing Vassell and Sochan off the bench for the reminder of the season.

    Benching Castle, I don't think would be smart. If the Spurs see him as the 2nd core piece behind Wemby, it doesn't make sense to go from starting him and playing him 30+ minutes per game, to bench him and play him around 20.
    I'm not calling for Castle's minutes being cut either. He can still touch 30 mins from the bench. Give him some of Keldon's minutes. I don't ever wanna see Keldon at the 4 again.

    The best lineup thing is a bit overblown, tbh. It was not the largest sample size to begin with And I'm curious as to where that lineup stands after the last 2-3 games.

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    Pretty crazy recovery period for Jeremy. Will be nice to have him back to guard Durant tbh.

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    I'm not calling for Castle's minutes being cut either. He can still touch 30 mins from the bench. Give him some of Keldon's minutes. I don't ever wanna see Keldon at the 4 again.

    The best lineup thing is a bit overblown, tbh. It was not the largest sample size to begin with And I'm curious as to where that lineup stands after the last 2-3 games.
    Even if Castle remains a 30 mpg guy coming off the bench (pretty unlikely), he would be sharing more minutes with the bench than the starters. We want Castle to build that report with Wemby and the starting unit.

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    I'm not calling for Castle's minutes being cut either. He can still touch 30 mins from the bench. Give him some of Keldon's minutes. I don't ever wanna see Keldon at the 4 again.

    The best lineup thing is a bit overblown, tbh. It was not the largest sample size to begin with And I'm curious as to where that lineup stands after the last 2-3 games.
    It's still the best 5-man lineup in the league, with a minimum of 75 minutes played, though the gap has narrowed.

    The sample size is as large as the other top lineups, at 130 minutes played. Houston's starting 5 has played 285 minutes and has a NETRTG of 10.4, which is still the 9th best 5-man lineup in the league with a MP min of 75.

    If we get to 200 minutes and the NETRTG of this group has fallen off a cliff, I might feel different but for now I'd keep things exactly as is, a big reason being that Devin and Sochan off the bench improves our bench more than sending Champ and Barnes to the bench. The incremental gains of having Devin and Jeremy as subs is far greater than the incremental gains of having them as starters, IMO.

    Rank Lineup GP MP NETRTG
    1 Paul-Barnes-Champ-Wemby-Castle 12 130 22.8
    2 DeRozan-Sabonis-Fox-Monk-Murray 9 83 20.7
    3 Horford-Holiday-Brown-Tatum-White 9 163 20.1
    4 Harden-Dunn-Zuban-Jones Jr-Coffey 10 131 16.2
    5 Gordon-Jokic-Murray-Porter Jr-Braun 6 120 131.2

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    It's still the best 5-man lineup in the league, with a minimum of 75 minutes played, though the gap has narrowed.

    The sample size is as large as the other top lineups, at 130 minutes played. Houston's starting 5 has played 285 minutes and has a NETRTG of 10.4, which is still the 9th best 5-man lineup in the league with a MP min of 75.

    If we get to 200 minutes and the NETRTG of this group has fallen off a cliff, I might feel different but for now I'd keep things exactly as is, a big reason being that Devin and Sochan off the bench improves our bench more than sending Champ and Barnes to the bench. The incremental gains of having Devin and Jeremy as subs is far greater than the incremental gains of having them as starters, IMO.

    Rank Lineup GP MP NETRTG
    1 Paul-Barnes-Champ-Wemby-Castle 12 130 22.8
    2 DeRozan-Sabonis-Fox-Monk-Murray 9 83 20.7
    3 Horford-Holiday-Brown-Tatum-White 9 163 20.1
    4 Harden-Dunn-Zuban-Jones Jr-Coffey 10 131 16.2
    5 Gordon-Jokic-Murray-Porter Jr-Braun 6 120 131.2
    Is that #5 lineup for this year, or 20131? That’s quite the net.

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    Glad Sochan is back so soon...ws thinking well into 2025.

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    Is that #5 lineup for this year, or 20131? That’s quite the net.
    Haha, I wrote down that lineups ORTG instead of their Net (15.1).

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    Glad Sochan is back so soon...ws thinking well into 2025.
    They had announced a few weeks ago that the target date was 19 December, so it was never going to be ‘well into 2025’. He’s about 2 weeks early, give or take.

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