I can see Keldon Johnson screaming “anything is possible” after hoisting the NBA Cup
Nothing says I don't care like posting about it. I don't know why some of you are so stupidly resistant to adding more compe ion into the season. This is tried and tested on the world's biggest sport and it's amazing. Just an idiotic resistance to something new for absolutely no good reason.
If you truly don't care then great but why not just ignore it and stfu?
How is it garbage when so many more people and the players care about games this early in the season. The Lakers went into a tailspin because they were not that good but they still got to win something. The fact you don't like it doesn't make all of this garbage.
The cup is garbage the ratings have gotten worse not better and the cup is not going to fix the ratings issues.
Careful. Manny will tell you off for having an opinion, that the cup is garbage, that differs from his.
If he does that give him the max honestly
Oh I don't care if you guys think its garbage. It's just annoying because you have no real reason to think that its garbage other than its new. What I cared about last year was whether or not the players thought it was worthless, which is obviously not the case. In fact, its obvious these guys care about it because - shocking I know - high level compe ors like to have compe ions. You making up some weird scenario where the the Lakers blew their season because they tried for a handful of games early in the season is laughably stupid. You and others are MORE than welcome to have stupid opinions that make no sense.
Like honestly whats the downside of the cup? That you have to stare at some ugly courts early in the season? You want to argue ratings?
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European soccer teams play in 3-4 compe ions each year. There is the league, 1-2 domestic cups (just like the NBA cup) and then European wide tournaments. The NBA can't do the latter because there aren't a dozen leagues of comparable talent like there are for European soccer but adding a cup is a no brainer. 82 regular season games incredibly devalues the importance/impact of each game and this is the obvious way to counteract that. It would be even better if they had MORE NBA Cup games instead of only 4.
So yeah, have your opinion that it sucks. Its fine. But I've yet to see any justification for that opinion that isn't just some bull about a new compe ion that Americans aren't used to. Yes, it's a made up compe ion but so is the NBA as a whole. The NBA has value that it's built up over decades but it didn't start that way. You have to start somewhere.
I’m warming to the cup, but it’d be cool if there was something more at stake like additional draft capital.
Something like a lottery odds boost (for teams that end up in the lottery) for making the elimination stage, or +2 draft positions for non-lotto teams (with a ceiling of pick #15) would be really interesting and add some anti-tanking measures to the league. Love this idea!
The cup isn't garbage. It's a million dollars to each players bank account.
You’re about double the actual prize. It’s ~$514K, or, one good night in a strip club for Harden.
The Spurs winning the Cup would be a big boost for this young developing team, that they’re getting better and step towards the right direction. While the Lakers needed it more to continue selling expensive seats, and LeBron to stay significant. A LeBron/AD led team can still win the Finals IF, and it’s a big IF, they’re healthy. That’s why they won the half marathon cup last year. But like old boxers, they don’t have the endurance to finish strong the whole 15 rounds.
Imagine if this was around in 2014 and Pop rested TD/Many/Parker for the World Cup Championship because he was looking to make an eventual run for a real championship. How sad would Manny be?!?
I remember in 2014 when Pop rested the big three for all the basketball games in Nov/Dec because he wanted to win a le. Thanks for making my point that the only reasons you all have for not liking this thing are incredibly stupid. You did it better than I ever could.
Funny how Ex somehow decided the Cup prevented the Lakers for doing well in the Playoffs but didn't have a thing to say bout the other Cup finals team way over performing in the playoffs after over performing in the Cup.
haha I simply don’t care for it which is a pretty popular view even amongst NBA players, coaches and analysts. I see some value for our young guys to get hyped for it this year given we probably aren’t playing for much else but if we were in contention I’d have my eyes on the long term goal and if we won this meaningless tourney along the way so be it.
I would however be in favour of sweetening the pot with draft capital or draft positioning.
I thought the Cup was going to be kind of dumb but I am glad to be wrong there. Adding some actual midseason drama for teams that don't normally have much to play for has been great.
I could even get behind a second in-season tournament if it had a different enough format than the current one. Something that runs from mid January to the ASB perhaps.
I love the idea of having a draft incentive for winning Cup games. I think the two best ways to increase viewership would be fewer games (maybe 66 in the season) plus big disincentives for load management, and a way to finally kill tanking. The draft wheel is a great idea on paper but there's no feasible way to get there from here without severely disadvantaging a few teams.
Anything that gives every team as much incentive as possible to win as many games as possible should be on the table. A third in-season tournament, seeding the playoffs 1-16, letting top playoff seeds pick their first round opponents, reseeding after every round, tightening up the requirements for postseason awards further, etc.
There are only two bad things about the cup:
1. It's too early in the season. The time between christmas and all-star weekend is when the NBA regular season really becomes a slog. Move it back to January.
2. The name is stupid. Putting a sponsor is just a lame money grab among the countless money grabs of the Adam Sliver era. I'm sure it won't be long until until we're watching the NBA Kia Finals presented by the dictatorship of Saudia Arabia or some stupid like that.
Other than that, it's a fun way to make the regular season a little more compe ive, especially for the younger teams. Vet teams with championship *goals* going all out for the cup (ahem lakers) is just embarrassing.
Worse, since lottery is a chance for better championship trajectory while NBA cup is the NBA allowing larger market teams to bust a quick nut early on when teams are fiddling with lineups and the NBA is trying to create a reason to care.
Yea yea thats always the spin while you don't like it because it's new.
I dislike it because it is a meaningless tournament that has no impact on the season or the playoffs. Why should I care who wins ? Really what purpose does it really serve other than the NBA throwing stuff against the wall trying to help ratings.
I have not seen any fan from any team cheering to win what ever the new trophy is called. The only thing that matters is playoffs and does my team have a real chance at the O'Brien trophy.
I can tell who's an American (or person outside of the US) who watches soccer in this thread and who's just an American.
Whats funny is that I know there's people in here who are College Basketball fans and CBB has like this too. You have the NCAA/NIT at the end, after the regular season, conference tournament, and then individual early season tournaments! Yet NBA fans act like Adam Silver is hurting them by doing this.
Maybe a lot of people really just have sensitive eyes and hate the bright courts. IDK.
Conference tournaments impact who goes to the big dance so they have an outcome that effects the basketball playoffs just saying ?
The NIT was a big thing back in the day now it is just a way to milk money on teams that missed out on the Big Dance and end the season
The invitationals are generally like the Maui one does anyone care if they win the tournament or do they hope their team gets a quality win that can help them to get to the Big Dance. They also get their younger players experience playing in a neutral site so that all makes sense from a College Basketball preference.
I don't even watch College ball anymore and I get why college ball does what they do and the desired results. Yet no one can give me what the new tournament in the NBA is suppose to accomplish or what it matters to a fan.
The games have the same weight as any other win or loss during the season the tournament has no effect on the playoffs or standings in the division then any other game.
I think there are 2 sides to look at the NBA cup.
1.) players perspective - it seems they enjoy it and want to win.
2) fans perspective - for fans of championship contenders it’s meaningless. I can imagine this happening in our prime timmy days and thinking about how it would be if we lost or didn’t even make it to the cup playoffs or something like that. The annoying the threads from fans of other teams who do win the NBa cup and then they are no where to be seen when the real playoffs and real finals happen.
but for the fans of lesser teams, it can be exciting if your team overachieves
The Maui and Alaska tournaments were popular, because any games not played in the contiguous 48 states didn’t count against the NCAA regular season game limit. That’s the only reason these exist.
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