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    You'd think he's in his 2nd year or something.

    The offensive game plan is the coach's decision. I doubt they tell Victor "just do whatever you're comfortable with out there". It's more likely they tell CP3 that.

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    The entire team looked like they didn’t want to be there last night. That includes the veterans Barnes and Chris Paul. A lethargic effort by the entire group. Not sure what the reason was for that. Vassell’s play was encouraging, but even he wasn’t as engaged on the defensive end as he could have been. They really weren’t starting anything defensively and that’s where you win games. The Spurs were clearly hustled in this one. The Suns wanted it more and Bud outcoached us.
    Both teams looked this way. They aren't excited about the cup.

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    Both teams looked this way. They aren't excited about the cup.
    I agree, but the Suns were able to turn it on late in the first second and fourth quarter. The Spurs never even had that little push.

    When we make Plumlee look like an All-Star that’s not a good thing.

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    The Spurs shot 18% from 3pts and 35% FG and lost by 11pts. If some of those shots made the bottom of the net, they’d win. They had a bad shooting night after a record breaking 23 3pts the previous night and Victor had a heroic triple-double, and people here were like… we’re back baby… It’s a young team hence the inconsistency. They are better than last year, they will be better as the season progresses.

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    Meh

    this was one of those “burn the tape/video” games…

    the entire team on offense especially was off…it happens

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    You'd think he's in his 2nd year or something.

    The offensive game plan is the coach's decision. I doubt they tell Victor "just do whatever you're comfortable with out there". It's more likely they tell CP3 that.
    Really? I don't get that sense with VW. Last year it was all about "let him figure things out", and now he's shooting even more 3's. To me, seems like he's doing what he wants.

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    The Spurs will be playing at home against .500 teams the next 5 games. I’m sure the same es will be praising how good the team is and Victor is the next Curry in 7’3” body. Relax

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    I forgot that one of the reasons I liked Devin was because I thought he showed up in that one play-in game the Spurs had a few years ago (I think it was against NO). I thought Devin showed up and played with a bit of mental toughness. Might not have had a huge stat line, but it didn't look like the pressure got to him. I remember being disappointed in Dejounte as he had a poor game (At the time, I thought he didn't show much mental toughness). To be fair, though, I think that was when Dejounte also missed most of the final regular season games in April, so maybe he was still sick, or not in-form going into that game.
    he was 7/7 from 3 in that game. Huge stat line obviously with 20+ points. Anybody saying Devin should go to the bench has lost their mind.

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    The entire team looked like they didn’t want to be there last night. That includes the veterans Barnes and Chris Paul. A lethargic effort by the entire group. Not sure what the reason was for that. Vassell’s play was encouraging, but even he wasn’t as engaged on the defensive end as he could have been. They really weren’t starting anything defensively and that’s where you win games. The Spurs were clearly out-hustled in this one. The Suns wanted it more and Bud outcoached us.
    holding the Suns to 104 points while you're not hitting any shots is actually great. Spurs D kept them in the game. Although I agree, Wemby looked lazy on that end in a bunch of posessions.

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    Really? I don't get that sense with VW. Last year it was all about "let him figure things out", and now he's shooting even more 3's. To me, seems like he's doing what he wants.
    The guy shoots 3’s without a hand on his face. That’s practice shots. I’d make him shoot those as long as he’s making them. What I observe is he tries to shoot them early, but reel it in in the 4th when the game is close. Again the guy is an anomaly. There’s no similar player to pattern his game from. It’s responsible to try where to maximize his skills for the W. The team is way from a finish product.

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    he's not the only one, donut always goes for the stepback 3, even though he's the most skilled post player maybe of all time, lebron always goes for the penetration, derozan always goes for the mid range jumper... there's a lack of variety in the players moves, despite the capabilities.

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    The entire team looked like they didn’t want to be there last night. That includes the veterans Barnes and Chris Paul. A lethargic effort by the entire group. Not sure what the reason was for that. Vassell’s play was encouraging, but even he wasn’t as engaged on the defensive end as he could have been. They really weren’t starting anything defensively and that’s where you win games. The Spurs were clearly out-hustled in this one. The Suns wanted it more and Bud outcoached us.
    HB just looked like he couldn't buy a bucket last night, missing bunnies he's usually pretty reliable on. happens I guess.

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    Chucking the 3 all the time especially almost logo ones takes away 1 of Wemby’s biggest advantages of being the tallest player on the floor so yes he needs to chill out on it a bit.

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    Chucking the 3 all the time especially almost logo ones takes away 1 of Wemby’s biggest advantages of being the tallest player on the floor so yes he needs to chill out on it a bit.
    yeah i dont know if him taking more than 50% of his shots from 3 is the way to go, but to be fair, being the tallest player on the floor also gives him a wild advantage at the three-ball as well, since theres virtually no way to contest it. he doesnt have to do anything remarkable to free himself up for a shot. defense cant really take it away. i think its fine to allow him to develop that shot, but there generally needs to be a better balance. theres also an argument to be made that him taking more 3's allows him to conserve energy to allow him to play more minutes or be more active defensively.

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    Wemby only has post moves in 2k lol

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    Wemby only has post moves in 2k lol
    Much like you just play 2k and don't watch actual games.

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    holding the Suns to 104 points while you're not hitting any shots is actually great. Spurs D kept them in the game. Although I agree, Wemby looked lazy on that end in a bunch of posessions.
    durant was out tbh

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    Much like you just play 2k and don't watch actual games.
    I just subscribe to league pass.lol i was able to watch last night’s game live

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    I forgot that one of the reasons I liked Devin was because I thought he showed up in that one play-in game the Spurs had a few years ago (I think it was against NO). I thought Devin showed up and played with a bit of mental toughness. Might not have had a huge stat line, but it didn't look like the pressure got to him. I remember being disappointed in Dejounte as he had a poor game (At the time, I thought he didn't show much mental toughness). To be fair, though, I think that was when Dejounte also missed most of the final regular season games in April, so maybe he was still sick, or not in-form going into that game.
    Agree about Vassell. I think if he starts and plays 38 minutes rather than coming off the bench for 28 minutes, this game flows a lot differently. He IS our 2nd best player, and it’s still not even particularly close if you ask me.

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    Agree about Vassell. I think if he starts and plays 38 minutes rather than coming off the bench for 28 minutes, this game flows a lot differently. He IS our 2nd best player, and it’s still not even particularly close if you ask me.
    Our biggest issue is that we got very little self-creation across the roster.
    Yeah, sharing the ball and not isoing is nice, but most of our bad possessions come down to noone being able to penetrate the paint or create an advantage by themselves.

    CP3's legs are gone, he legit never attacks the basket.
    Castle is probably our best paint penetrator, which says a lot. But his shot is unreliable and opponents will just sag off, making the drive a lot harder.
    Keldon can get to the rim, but he's got a serious case of tunnel vision and his drives are so random, can't be relied on.
    Others aren't even worth mentioning when it comes to giving them the ball and hoping they'll create an advantage.

    Aside from Wemby, obviously. But he's really inefficent in isolation because of his turnover ratio.

    We need a player who can score from tough situations without having to give the ball up. It's not something we should base our offense on, but we can't just keep passing it around if the play is broken, we don't get good shots like that.

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    Wemby will be fine - this is just another learning moment for him.

    But it does reinforce why I'd prefer we put a stronger team around him that doesn't require otherworldly games from him to be able to win. This loss was far less demoralizing than some of the others early in the season though. We'll rebound.

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    Our biggest issue is that we got very little self-creation across the roster.
    Yeah, sharing the ball and not isoing is nice, but most of our bad possessions come down to noone being able to penetrate the paint or create an advantage by themselves.

    CP3's legs are gone, he legit never attacks the basket.
    Castle is probably our best paint penetrator, which says a lot. But his shot is unreliable and opponents will just sag off, making the drive a lot harder.
    Keldon can get to the rim, but he's got a serious case of tunnel vision and his drives are so random, can't be relied on.
    Others aren't even worth mentioning when it comes to giving them the ball and hoping they'll create an advantage.

    Aside from Wemby, obviously. But he's really inefficent in isolation because of his turnover ratio.

    We need a player who can score from tough situations without having to give the ball up. It's not something we should base our offense on, but we can't just keep passing it around if the play is broken, we don't get good shots like that.
    Vassell can iso and take shots, likewise Barnes in a lesser capacity, for now.

    Currently Tankathon has Spurs picking 3 FRP’s, 13, 15 and 17. I’d take 6’10 Newell for added paint defense and 6’8” McNeeley for added shooting (ST seems to like those Laker white guys Reaves/Knecht that Spurs FO should’ve picked )

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    100% agree, but feel it's one of those things where sometimes people just have to learn the hard way. But if he wants to be one of the greatest, wemby will have to make a tweak and prioritize his post game more than his outside game in the long run. Thank god we have room for experimentation still this year.

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    I haven’t posted here in a while.and I am obviously ecstasic about the Spurs becoming relevant again.


    Lucking out with a bonafide generational talent certainly gave this franchise a new lease of life—a true foundational piece for a potential new dynasty.


    My nitpick with this dude: As someone who had been accustomed to Tim Duncan 19-year-long, night in-night-out, two-way excellence I just hate to see how much Wemby leaves on the table when his precious 3-POINT CHUCKING doesn’t work on the night. I know it is totally different era, but when Wembanmaya becomes disinterested even in his bread and butter (defense & rim protection), when the 3-ball isn’t falling for him, is both frustrating and alarming. It is like this obsession with becoming a 7’4 KD/CURRY is already holding him back. Just look at that abysmal free-throw rate for someone with his size/skills. He completely retreats into his shelf when he is not hitting behind the arc.


    I know he is only 20, but even the best prospects need to have their bad habits coached out of their system. Dude, for heaven sake, just swap Jamal Crawford for Timmy/Hakeem and let's have another legendary ride
    This post I agree with 200%. I don't ing care about era, we drafted the guy to be a 7'4" Olajuwon or Duncan, and he's been putting up those numbers on the surface, but the problem is that today's NBA is ed and un able, thanks to gots like Curry, Durant, and Silver having completely ed the league permanently into arcade skittle mode chuckball. That's just about every player today, not just Wemby, unfortunately.

    Silver, today's NBA, honestly the 90s and 00s were great but if we're going to bring back the early 80s tempo then it's time to get rid of the three point shot now tbh.

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    Wemby is officially listed as OUT tomorrow versus the Bulls.

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