When will you stop falling for NBC bull ?
Last edited by TSA; 12-04-2024 at 10:29 AM.
Name one "witness" from the NBC story...I'll wait.
In the meantime...
TSA running interference for Trump's terrible picks
Winehole23 caught once again spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation...I hope he gets the help he needs.
There's already 30+ people on the record rebutting the anonymously sourced smear you're trying to push
QAnon. It's in the name.
Did you get the help you needed?
So NBC News is now on the same level of 4chan?
No.They aren't LARPing like you were.
You didn't answer the question.
Did you get the help you needed after spreading anonymously sourced sears to further misinformation?
You're trying to compare something I clearly presented as a conspiracy theory from 4chan to NBC news. You don't want to talk about the completely fabricated story NBC News ran...you just want to talk about me to deflect from it. This is your tired schtick. You're such a pussy
You spread anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. You believed the stuff Q was posting. You believed he was hanging outside Air Force One. Did you get the help you needed? Just answer. Don't be a pussy.You're trying to compare something I clearly presented as a conspiracy theory from 4chan to NBC news. You don't want to talk about the completely fabricated story NBC News ran...you just want to talk about me to deflect from it. This is your tired schtick. You're such a pussy
This NBC story isn't the worst one about this nominee so I don't really care about it. I don't see your defense for the other ones.
You cared enough about it to try and deflect from it to make it about me. Get a new schtick.
You explicitly made it about another poster. It's your shtick.
Shocker...Winehole23 caught again pushing more fake news.
I explicitly made it about what the other poster was posting concerning Trump's cabinet appointments aka the topic of the thread. You explicitly made it about me which had nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Until you get back on topic here you'll be ignored.
You accused him of spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. It's something you have done and will obviously do in the future.
It's clear you didn't get the help you needed but claim others need.
You're a hypocrite and I will continue to call you out no matter how much of a pussy you are about it.
Hegseth ran two veterans' charities into the ing ground. That hasn't been disputed. You think he should be fired up to SecDef. I disagree.
That was clearly a joke in reference to winehole saying he hoped Hegseth got the help he needed. You'd have caught that if you weren't frantically jumping from thread to thread smashing F5 and replying to every single poster.
Hasn't been disputed? Look up
Is this funny on 8kun?
So the charities weren't in the red?Hasn't been disputed? Look up
Everything was great so he had to leave both for no reason?
That wasn't the joke, and you are ing dense.
Is this funny on 8kun?
Can't speak to the other organization but The New Yorker's claims about CVA are bull . Two former senior leaders at CVA and a trustee from CVA confirm this.So the charities weren't in the red?
Everything was great so he had to leave both for no reason?
An essay published by The New Yorker on Monday claims that Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, “was forced to step down” as president of the advocacy group Concerned Veterans for America amid “serious allegations” of misconduct. We’re talking manhandling strippers, public drunkenness, lewd and obnoxious behavior—the kind of thing that would raise questions about someone slated to lead the Pentagon.
Except: In interviews with me, two former senior leaders of CVA have denied the “whistleblower” allegations against Hegseth. They insisted that he left the organization voluntarily, without any pressure bearing down on him from its funders. And unlike The New Yorker’s sources, one of Hegseth’s CVA defenders spoke on the record.
“I was there for most of those alleged incidents, and this stuff is just complete fabrications,” said Sean Parnell, a former US Army airborne ranger who retired as a captain with a Purple Heart and two Bronze Stars and served as a senior adviser at CVA during Hegseth’s tenure. Parnell asserted that the “whistleblower” claims had come from “people who were let go as the organization was growing, who weren’t fulfilling their duties. They just weren’t.”
“All false,” said a veteran of the Global War on Terror who served alongside Hegseth in a senior role at CVA. “These were false allegations made by a group of disgruntled employees fired by Pete.” In some cases, the CVA veteran said, the complainants attributed their own carousing to Hegseth.
Parnell and the second CVA veteran also rejected The New Yorker’s claim that Hegseth was forced out of his position at the organization owing to personal misconduct. “That couldn’t be further from the truth,” said Parnell. “This was right before President Trump began his first term. Pete and I were on the media all the time, talking about national security and foreign policy. And he and I became big believers in Trump’s vision of foreign policy. The funders of that organization [CVA] didn’t necessarily believe that. And because of that policy difference, over what America’s foreign and national-security policy should be, Pete parted ways. It was 100 percent professional, political differences.”
The New Yorker also suggested that Hegseth’s departure from CVA was abrupt, leaving him with no immediate job options. This also wasn’t true, Parnell told me. “He was a Fox News contributor,” he noted, and in negotiations to become a full-time anchor at the cable network. “ABC was interested in him, as well, if memory serves. So it wasn’t just Fox.”
The second CVA veteran echoed this characterization: “He left because his role on Fox was growing and he had a book deal. ‘Pete didn’t have another job lined up,’ the piece says, but very shortly after he left, he became a full-time Fox & Friends host.”
So why are establishment forces slinging so much mud at Hegseth? Said the second CVA veteran: “Pete believes that the wars we were involved in [after 9/11] were a disaster for us, for our armed forces, and for the people of those countries. Like a lot of veterans, he believes that he was lied to, and he believes he has to shake up the nat-sec complex. That’s why a lot of people are going after him.”
To be sure, Hegseth has yet to fully explain the evolution of his thinking on American security, from a War on Terror-era hawk to today’s more restrained view. And that’s the sort of thing lawmakers should focus on as they weigh his nomination—not decade-old personnel smears strenuously denied by his fellow veterans.
https://www.compactmag.com/article/s...-pete-hegseth/
Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?
Exactly. That was the accusation. You were dead serious about that and you tried to play it off as jes jokes. That's ing dense.
I don't see anything refuting the claims about the money.Can't speak to the other organization but The New Yorker's claims about CVA are bull . Two former senior leaders at CVA and a trustee from CVA confirm this.
An essay published by The New Yorker on Monday claims that Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, “was forced to step down” as president of the advocacy group Concerned Veterans for America amid “serious allegations” of misconduct. We’re talking manhandling strippers, public drunkenness, lewd and obnoxious behavior—the kind of thing that would raise questions about someone slated to lead the Pentagon.
Except: In interviews with me, two former senior leaders of CVA have denied the “whistleblower” allegations against Hegseth. They insisted that he left the organization voluntarily, without any pressure bearing down on him from its funders. And unlike The New Yorker’s sources, one of Hegseth’s CVA defenders spoke on the record.
“I was there for most of those alleged incidents, and this stuff is just complete fabrications,” said Sean Parnell, a former US Army airborne ranger who retired as a captain with a Purple Heart and two Bronze Stars and served as a senior adviser at CVA during Hegseth’s tenure. Parnell asserted that the “whistleblower” claims had come from “people who were let go as the organization was growing, who weren’t fulfilling their duties. They just weren’t.”
“All false,” said a veteran of the Global War on Terror who served alongside Hegseth in a senior role at CVA. “These were false allegations made by a group of disgruntled employees fired by Pete.” In some cases, the CVA veteran said, the complainants attributed their own carousing to Hegseth.
Parnell and the second CVA veteran also rejected The New Yorker’s claim that Hegseth was forced out of his position at the organization owing to personal misconduct. “That couldn’t be further from the truth,” said Parnell. “This was right before President Trump began his first term. Pete and I were on the media all the time, talking about national security and foreign policy. And he and I became big believers in Trump’s vision of foreign policy. The funders of that organization [CVA] didn’t necessarily believe that. And because of that policy difference, over what America’s foreign and national-security policy should be, Pete parted ways. It was 100 percent professional, political differences.”
The New Yorker also suggested that Hegseth’s departure from CVA was abrupt, leaving him with no immediate job options. This also wasn’t true, Parnell told me. “He was a Fox News contributor,” he noted, and in negotiations to become a full-time anchor at the cable network. “ABC was interested in him, as well, if memory serves. So it wasn’t just Fox.”
The second CVA veteran echoed this characterization: “He left because his role on Fox was growing and he had a book deal. ‘Pete didn’t have another job lined up,’ the piece says, but very shortly after he left, he became a full-time Fox & Friends host.”
So why are establishment forces slinging so much mud at Hegseth? Said the second CVA veteran: “Pete believes that the wars we were involved in [after 9/11] were a disaster for us, for our armed forces, and for the people of those countries. Like a lot of veterans, he believes that he was lied to, and he believes he has to shake up the nat-sec complex. That’s why a lot of people are going after him.”
To be sure, Hegseth has yet to fully explain the evolution of his thinking on American security, from a War on Terror-era hawk to today’s more restrained view. And that’s the sort of thing lawmakers should focus on as they weigh his nomination—not decade-old personnel smears strenuously denied by his fellow veterans.
https://www.compactmag.com/article/s...-pete-hegseth/
Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?
Do you find that strange or just an innocent oversight by the people defending Hegseth?
Dude thinks he's a modern day crusader against Muslims. He's not anti-war.
I never tried to play anything off as just jokes...you've created this in your own mind.
You're dense.
No one from CVA said he was let go for the claims about money.
You asked for the reason he left CVA and you were given the reason by a trustee and two senior leaders at CVA. Sorry the reason doesn't fit the story you want to believe
Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?
Come on Blake...just name one
You just haven't had a nice sit down with him yet. You'll come around eventually.
So you agree you weren't joking. OK, why did that take you so long?
So the finances were great for both charities in your opinion? They sure don't look great. They look pretty bad. My conspiracy theory is that the finances were indeed one reason he was pressured to leave both charities and fair evidence that he sucks at running things.No one from CVA said he was let go for the claims about money.
Which higher ups?Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?
What gravy train?
Please flesh out your conspiracy theory. Don't be so vague and try to stop making it all about other posters.
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