The NBA is pathetic and unwatchable these days

[Pauleta14]

The past nine seasons are the top nine NBA seasons for league-wide True Shooting %.

"Chuckball"

Not surprising considering nobody defends anymore.

Spurs have a dude who scored 50pts (off the bench ) in the Gleague

[GAustex]

I thought the NBA more compelling a watch when the game was played closer to the basket.
Big dudes pushing and jostling made for a good watch. Jorden and Iverson and similar shaking and baking to pull up jumpers. Duncan working the low post.
The problem with this style was it was impossible to referee and there were too many complaints about biased refereeing.
Calling things tighter changed the game and now we have at least a generation of dead eye 3 point shooters which adds to the less desirable spectacle-in my opinion.
Anyway I do not watch as much pretty much aligned with Timmy’s retirement.

[ismael-robert]

Make dunks 4pts

[Splits]

Have the basket move from side to side like at the arcade, the closer you are the easier it is to judge where the basket will be when the ball arrives.

[KobesAchilles]

The NBA is in a weird spot bc financially it’s the best it has ever been. However, today’s NBA has as many issues as the 1970s NBA (just different issues). I guess as long as the money is there nobody is really going to complain too much from a league standpoint. But I see the NBA being taken over by baseball in the near future and being regulated to the 4th American sport (pro and college football being 1 and 2).

But is has 3 major issues as far as I’m concerned

First is that the players give zero effs about the regular season

Second is that players are sitting out games for no reason and pretty soon 100 million a year players are going to be resting back to back games and . Embiid is making 70 a year (?) and he’s already resting.

And lastly there’s too much money for the players to actually give a about rivalries and any other . It takes the tribalism out of it. They’re too much about themselves and not enough about the team. Zion cares so much for his teammates that he can’t even put down his double quarter pounder to pick up their calls. It’s also why the all star game will be canceled after this season. They make too much to even care about playing the game. And yes it was compe ive until like 2010ish. I mean Kobe broke Wades nose in the game (or vice versa I forget) playing defense.

The players being pussys who can’t handle physical play and shoot a buncha threes is far down the totem pole as far as I’m concerned.

[baseline bum]

100% and thanks for saying this. The exact same thing has happened it other sports as well as stupid old s have been pushed out of front office roles by people who know how to do math. "Analytics has ruined the game!!!" are the screams of middle-school educated boomers who miss Bill Russell scoring over 5'7" white dudes who's full time job is accountant and when a 300 yard passing day was a big deal in the NFL. Times change, if you don't like it you can go back to your Readers Digest.

Only thing that irks me about the modern game is how unwatchable the All Star game has become. Though I get it, there's no money in that and players want to rest in the middle of a long season and not risk injury playing at 70% intensity like in the olden days of the 80s-00s.

[ismael-robert]

Make dunks three points all problem solved teams will start working to get the easy 100% bucket in the middle

[ismael-robert]

Well easy as in percentage but devising plays to get dunks in the NBA and get through an entire defense is probably the hardest shot which is why it should be worth as much or more than three

[ismael-robert]

And that's one of the big debates nowadays you always hear announcer saying do you prefer slam dunks or threes

[tim_duncan_fan]

I’m glad you got that out of your chest.

Pop for the longest time didn’t like chucking 3pts. But it caught up to him. The league average % for 2pts is 45%, while 3pts is 39%. At 10 attempts it’s 9 pts < 11.5 pts. Easily you take the 3! So unless you remove the 3pt, which would clog the lanes. I doubt Wemby’s body type could handle that. I think it favors Wemby to play in this era, and he’s our guy. So I’m not complaining.

Sorry if someone has made this point already:

If the numbers you provided are correct, threes are basically 6% more difficult than twos, but they give 50% more points.

That math ain't mathing.

I say extend the 3 point arc. Move that out to 29.6 feet.

[Bill_Brasky]

Its an easy solution. Cap the number of 3s a team can take in a game. Somewhere in the 30-40 range. Once youve used them, you don't get any more. That will make it to where you have to be strategic about who is taking them and when they are taking them.

Last 5 minutes and OT, shoot as many 3s as you want, to still bring maximum excitement.

[Bill_Brasky]

And that's one of the big debates nowadays you always hear announcer saying do you prefer slam dunks or threes

I prefer making rules to where chucking the ball from 25 feet early in the shot clock is a bad shot that hurts your team.

[scott]

Its an easy solution. Cap the number of 3s a team can take in a game. Somewhere in the 30-40 range. Once youve used them, you don't get any more. That will make it to where you have to be strategic about who is taking them and when they are taking them.

Last 5 minutes and OT, shoot as many 3s as you want, to still bring maximum excitement.

It's a solution, but too complicated and confusing for me, having to have a big "3PA" counter so that the players, coaches, refs and fans have to follow along. I think extending the 3p line or eliminating corner 3s is the answer.

[lefty]

OK GRANDPA

[lefty]

Not surprising considering nobody defends anymore.

Spurs have a dude who scored 50pts (off the bench ) in the Gleague

thinking they played defense in the 90s

[Pauleta14]

thinking they played defense in the 90s

They didn't need as much bc they were allowed to be physical, you never saw guards having their ways in the paint and scoring 30pts was actually a feat. All that without the advance medicine, the uncomfortable charters and cheap hotels, junks foods daily and no minutes/games restrictions.

Nowadays, anybody can score 30pts, has a dev coach, nutritionist, luxurious hotels/travels and rare are those even aiming for 82 games

And criticizing this era doesn't mean another was PERFECT

[Bill_Brasky]

It's a solution, but too complicated and confusing for me, having to have a big "3PA" counter so that the players, coaches, refs and fans have to follow along. I think extending the 3p line or eliminating corner 3s is the answer.

Really? Counting confuses you? We can count the score but we cant count shots taken?

[scott]

Really? Counting confuses you? We can count the score but we cant count shots taken?

It would be confusing to the casual fan. "Wait, that shot was worth 3 points before, but now it's worth two? But in 10 seconds it's worth 3 again?"

Pretty easy to see that. Maybe we should just make it like MTV Rock N Jock with a 25 foot rim? Or if you shoot a FT with your eyes closed it's worth double? Or if Jeremy Sochan can make more than 30% of his threes, then all the previously made threes retroactively count for 4 points? Or Steph Curry's threes only count for 2 because he's so good?

[ambchang]

https://thesportjournal.org/article/...-consequences/

Haven’t read the entire thing yet and I don’t agree with some of the points in the article / never heard of some of the background details so I can’t verify how true they are.

That said, relevant to this topic and essentially clearly support that rules changes and the subsequent emphasis in training in outside shooting led to the explosion of three point shooters, and not some odd genetic mutations in the human bodies over the last 20 years that somehow allowed shooters to make these ridiculous shots.

[Bill_Brasky]

It would be confusing to the casual fan. "Wait, that shot was worth 3 points before, but now it's worth two? But in 10 seconds it's worth 3 again?"

Pretty easy to see that. Maybe we should just make it like MTV Rock N Jock with a 25 foot rim? Or if you shoot a FT with your eyes closed it's worth double? Or if Jeremy Sochan can make more than 30% of his threes, then all the previously made threes retroactively count for 4 points? Or Steph Curry's threes only count for 2 because he's so good?

It's not confusing at all actually. You literally just count the number of shots.

If you're going to about the league being too much 3 pt chucking, and then someone is going to offer up possible solutions and rule changes to fix it, if your response is "that is too confusing! Then we would have to learn a new rule or 2!" Then you're just being disengenuous at that point.

[twodeep]

I am fine with the shooting bring back defense and some physicality to the game let them fight through screens something. I don't mean bring back the 80's either there is in between of what they have now and what we had before it can be accomplish with rule changes and enforcing rules on the book.

[scott]

It's not confusing at all actually. You literally just count the number of shots.

If you're going to about the league being too much 3 pt chucking, and then someone is going to offer up possible solutions and rule changes to fix it, if your response is "that is too confusing! Then we would have to learn a new rule or 2!" Then you're just being disengenuous at that point.

I'm not the one who was ing about this, tbqh

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I know this is just some boomer whining , but the claim that the all star game was ever compe ive is just laughable and makes me wonder if you actually watch the nba outside of the spurs.

You guys can blame the rules all you want, but the play style these days is dictated by math. Smarter prime are running nba teams now and they are maximizing advantages and eliminating non compe ive aspects of traditional nba play. It has nothing to do with being “soft” you geezer

yeah. analytics. also, it's time to move back the 3 point line, thereby eliminating the corner three in the process. It is too easy of a jumpshot and shouldn't be worth more than a layup.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

also,

I hate false revisionist history.

If Allen misses the shot, the Spurs rebound and make a free throw and go on to win, the Spurs don't really come close to winning or making the Finals in 2014. The Spurs' 2013 loss was the inspiration for their 2014 revenge tour run. It's likely that Tim Duncan retires as the 5-0 Finals champion and Finals MVP at that point after winning in Miami in 2013, honestly. The Kawhi-led Spurs are still compe ive in the West, but with Duncan done and fulfilled and Parker/Ginobili fulfilled and taking backseat roles after many tough playoff outs before that, it's unlikely the Spurs are good enough to beat OKC, GSW, or even LAC in 2015 or beyond.

Your 2014 Finals almost certainly ends up being Miami vs. OKC part two, but OKC is slightly worse this time (no Harden) and Miami is ultra pissed over losing close in 2013, so the Heatles likely beat OKC again in 2014 and LeBron stays in Miami for at least another year. The OKC/GSW rivalry still dominates the West after that, but Miami sort of has to rebuild given the decline of Bosh and to an extent Wade, which is hard on their salary cap, so it's possible LeBron and the Heat lose to the Warriors in 2015 in this timeline (remember, OKC went 47-35 but missed the playoffs due to Durant's injury) and perhaps at that point LeBron realizes Miami's supporting cast is too old and injured and he does end up going back to Cleveland, and potentially the actual timeline essentially continues from there.

[TDMVPDPOY]

either move back the 3pt line another 1metre , if they continue to chuck up 3s which doesnt solve the problem, remove it and have a star 2 metres further back for 3pts...now if they continue to chuck on those star locations?? switch the tv off...