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the way things are playing out, records wise-with ATL and the Spurs-I don't think that Traore will be available at where the Spurs will probably be picking.
Traore doesn't have much in common with TP aside of being French.
TP was a SG who had to play PG, he was obsesses with scoring and had to develop his play making and athleticism etc
Traore's issue this season is shooting/scoring when his play making and athleticism are better than TP's at the same age (speed aside)
Not sure he'll be a target if Castle keeps showing he's our future starting PG
the way things are playing out, records wise-with ATL and the Spurs-I don't think that Traore will be available at where the Spurs will probably be picking.
He’s currently mocked at #12 to SA on TaT.
Some of these players are not going to come out this year. Look for those who have dropped to probably come out next year, guys like Traore and Knueppel. There's no guarantee a lot of them stay.
i havent watched any Traore this year but the guy is averaging 10 points 5 assists on less than 33% from the field, what are we even talking about
You don’t draft on what’s player is, but on what you project they can be. He’s a playmaking blur who has enough vert to be #9 in the French league in blocks at 6’3”.
People are Gaga over Castle, but his rookie non counting stats are nothing to write home about. No one was I love with his UConn stats,either. It takes time to gain efficiency.
A player who won't be in this year's draft.
castle was an elite defender as a freshman which was his main attribute. the connective passing and physicality on offense were nice but he wasnt billed as some offensive dynamo
obviously you look at potential, but if somebody is all potential, they typically arent lotto guys
If Castle came out Wemby's year, he'd be in the talk alongside Anthony Black as coming after VW/Miller/Scoot/Amen/Ausar.
I’d take Castle over Amen and Ausar tbh. Castle is only missing a consistent jumper but he’s coming along fine. Everything else he’s dialed in, already a better POA defender.
he's talking about how they were viewed as prospects. i agree with mr body that had they been in the same draft, castle likely would have gone after amen/ausar. the anthony black comparison (as prospects) is an apt one.
Yeah, I think he would have gone around 5 to 7 pick- Maybe over Ausur but not over Bilal Coulibaly
Flagg is better than Sochan, both offensively and defensively. He's taller, longer, more mobile, more athletic, better at creating his own shot, has preternatural defensive instincts... I can't think of a single thing Sochan does better than Flagg.
And I like Sochan a lot.
Amen is a defensive monster. I'd even take him over Miller in a 2023 redraft and it gives me a bit more faith in the FO that supposedly he was #2 on their board behind Wemby back when we were all talking about OTE (myself included).
Vecenie sleeping on Jeremiah Fears big time - not sure whether he thinks it's because he's not coming out this year or it's an oversight, but honestly I've got him as an easy lottery pick if he keeps this up. All that's holding him back is potentially his measurements, but if he's actually 6'4" like Oklahoma lists him as, I'd have no problem putting him next to Castle. 3 level scorer, gets into the paint and to the line at will, confident as . I don't even care about his shooting, he just turned 18 and shoots mid 80s from the line. True lead guard chops with a 30+ AST%/5+ STL%, I've got him in about the same tier as Edgecomb and above Ace Bailey.
EDIT regarding Ace Bailey:
Going to throw out similar filters that I did for Risacher last year:
6'11" or under / AST:TO < 0.6 / 3PA > 80 (to filter out bigs) / AST% < 10 (Wings with poor feel drafted in the 1st round throughout history)
Michael Beasley
TJ Warren
Doug McDermott
O-Max Prosper
Lazar Hayward
Cam Whitmore
Jabari Parker
Shabazz Muhammed
Harrison Barnes
James Anderson (!)
Chris Singleton
Some scary ass names up there and not one star. Not saying it's not possible or anything, but I'd proceed with caution. Maybe he's like rich man's GG Jackson or something and bucks the trend
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I don't think I agree that Flagg is more mobile and athletic than Sochan. I think that is overselling Flagg a bit.
Jakucionas is the Spurs player here. He could be top 5 in the end, but he's the type of player who gets pushed out by top athletes. Here's hoping.
I wouldn't mind getting Georgia power forward Asa Newell myself.
I think this is the interview..........
considering the Spurs tried to get Austin Reaves, they should see an even more skilled version of Reaves in Jakucionis. but I agree, he will end up to high on the board. might be worth a move to somehow get a chance to draft him.
AJ is going to BYU
The soak is now a recruitment tool I guess
Been just a bit of that going on.
I’m an Old, so I’ve seen a few things. When I was much younger, any time a white boxer got even halfway up the heavyweight rankings, there was a media clamor for a le bout. It’s called the Great White Hope, it’s a thing, and it’s not just confined to boxing.
And it's really hype overall and a reason why Scoot was taken too high. Cooper Flagg is definitely a very good player, top two or three in this draft, but he doesn't look like the generational talent he was pipped as. Whoever gets the #1 pick may be forced by team fans and sports media to take Flagg when it looks like Harper may be the clear top pick in the draft.
Then they don't deserve any better.
If you're actually making a living off scouting players and constructing the roster, you shouldn't care about media opinions.
Kind of how noone expected Magic to take Banchero and it turns out people actually being paid to scout players were right.
Or all the talk about how Edwards doesn't care about basketball. If Minnesota took anyone else in that draft, they'd still be horrible.
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